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[snoop1130]

Recall UK parliament to tackle Brexit crisis, opposition Labour Party says

By William James

 

Britain's opposition Labour Party leader Jeremy Corbyn leaves his home in London, Britain August 19, 2019. REUTERS/Henry Nicholls

 

LONDON (Reuters) - Britain’s parliament needs to be recalled immediately to discuss Brexit, the opposition Labour Party’s finance spokesman John McDonnell said on Monday, after leaked official documents forecast possible food, fuel, and medicine shortages.

 

Britain has less than 74 days to resolve a three-year crisis that is pitting the country against the EU, its closest trade partner, and parliament against the executive. The outcome will mark its most significant geopolitical move since World War Two.

 

Prime Minister Boris Johnson says Britain will leave the European Union, with or without a transition deal, on Oct. 31. His calls for the EU to renegotiate the existing exit deal have so far been rejected in Brussels.

 

That puts Britain on course for an unmanaged exit, which an official assessment published by the Sunday Times said would jam ports, increase the risk of public protests and severely disrupt the world’s fifth-largest economy.

 

McDonnell, the Labour Party’s second most powerful man, said that the looming crisis demanded parliament’s summer break be brought to an early end.

 

“There’s a need now to bring MPs (members of parliament) back together again because we need time now to really have a proper debate and discussion about this,” McDonnell, a close ally of Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn, told BBC radio.

 

His comments add weight to a demand made on Sunday, signed by more than 100 lawmakers, to recall parliament to discuss what they called a “national emergency”.

 

Parliament is currently not due to sit until Sept. 3, when it will reconvene for a short session before breaking up again to allow for annual party conferences. Lawmakers are already fretting that they do not have enough time to try to stop a no-deal Brexit.

 

BERLIN AND PARIS

 

Johnson will make his first foreign trip as prime minister this week, meeting German Chancellor Angela Merkel in Berlin on Wednesday and French President Emmanuel Macron in Paris on Thursday. He will tell them that the British parliament cannot stop Brexit and that a new deal must be agreed if Britain is to avoid leaving the EU without one.

 

Labour, which is opposed to a no-deal exit, wants to bring down Johnson’s government and form its own emergency coalition under Corbyn’s leadership to delay Brexit.

 

Lawmakers from other parties have dismissed the possibility of Corbyn, a veteran leftist, leading any so-called ‘Government of National Unity’, preferring either someone else to do the job or else to focus on other parliamentary procedures to block a no-deal.

 

“I don’t see how he (Corbyn) could lead a government of national unity,” Dominic Grieve, a rebel lawmaker from Johnson’s ruling Conservative Party, told the BBC, adding that other people could lead such a government.

 

“But I am perfectly prepared to cooperate with him (Corbyn) and indeed with anybody else in the House of Commons to make sure that no-deal, which is being threatened by the current government, doesn’t happen,” Grieve said.

 

McDonnell said there was a majority in parliament committed to stopping a no-deal exit, and that Corbyn would meet rival leaders next week to discuss the best approach to doing so.

 

Johnson’s ministers played down the leaked no-deal assessment on Sunday, saying the document was old and did not reflect the increased funding and planning that the prime minister has undertaken since he took office last month.

 

They accuse Labour and others who are opposed to a no-deal Brexit of undermining negotiations with the EU, saying that EU leaders will wait to see if parliament can block such an outcome before deciding whether to renegotiate the deal.

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2019-08-19

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[3NUMBAS]

down with the 4th reich we want freedom from their interference on oct31

[nauseus]

Does anyone think that Jezzer's getting bossy to get some practice in, just in case he actually gets through that black and shiny door in SW1?

 

[Kadilo]

Sadly he can talk to all he wants. They will never collectively support him getting into No.10 under any circumstances. 

Their only hope is him agreeing to allow someone else of their choice to step forward which ain’t gonna happen as he’s putting all his eggs in this basket as the only way he could get into No.10. 

[baboon]

Damn right they should be recalled. How the hell they seemed to think that swanning off on holiday with this crisis going on was fine, is absolutely bloody mind-boggling.

[vogie]

Recalling parliament for what, so we can kick the can further down the road, it will solve nothing, the remainers are clutching at straws and hoping to overturn the will of the people.

[Bluespunk]

Great move. Hope it succeeds. 

Edited August 19, 2019 by Bluespunk

[Chomper Higgot]

It’s difficult, in the face of Johnson and the extremists in the Tory Party pushing for an economy wrecking, job destroying no-deal Brexit, to argue against recalling Parliament.

 

Of course those willing to damage the economy and other people’s jobs with a no-deal Brexit (a threat that was dreamed up to get a deal) will not be happy with Parliament being recalled and the risk that poses to their dreams of self harm.

 

Voters across the nation will see this through the lens of bills to pay, children to feed and clothe.

 

Time for Parliament to put a stop to a no-deal Brexit that even Johnson publicly says he does not want.

 

 

[elliss]

2 hours ago, Kadilo said:

Sadly he can talk to all he wants. They will never collectively support him getting into No.10 under any circumstances. 

Their only hope is him agreeing to allow someone else of their choice to step forward which ain’t gonna happen as he’s putting all his eggs in this basket as the only way he could get into No.10. 

 

         UK  is in such a mess ,  a pathetic goverment , and a usless oppostion party . 

         So , where do UK go from here .  The only way is down, and down more .

    

Edited August 19, 2019 by elliss

[Loiner]

Attempted power grab by the unelectable Jezza and LAB.


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[bristolboy]

2 hours ago, Kadilo said:

Sadly he can talk to all he wants. They will never collectively support him getting into No.10 under any circumstances. 

Their only hope is him agreeing to allow someone else of their choice to step forward which ain’t gonna happen as he’s putting all his eggs in this basket as the only way he could get into No.10. 

Jeremy Corbyn is leaving open the option of supporting an alternative caretaker prime minister, as he vows to do “everything necessary to stop a disastrous no-deal Brexit”.

In a speech in the midlands, the Labour leader will not rule out backing a different stopgap, after the Liberal Democrats and rebel Tories dismissed putting him in No 10 to avert a crash-out on 31 October.

Aides said he remained focused on seeking to persuade MPs to back him, if Boris Johnson can be toppled in a no-confidence vote – but described it only as the “simplest and most democratic” solution.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/corbyn-caretaker-pm-stop-no-deal-brexit-a9064616.html

[baboon]

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It’s difficult, in the face of Johnson and the extremists in the Tory Party pushing for an economy wrecking, job destroying no-deal Brexit, to argue against recalling Parliament.

 

Of course those willing to damage the economy and other people’s jobs with a no-deal Brexit (a threat that was dreamed up to get a deal) will not be happy with Parliament being recalled and the risk that poses to their dreams of self harm.

 

Voters across the nation will see this through the lens of bills to pay, children to feed and clothe.

 

Time for Parliament to put a stop to a no-deal Brexit that even Johnson publicly says he does not want.

 

 

Time for them to at least cut their ba$tard holidays short and work something, anything, out.

Or else what do we need them for, if we can simply vote via our TV remote control and that's that?

 

[Kadilo]

2 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

Jeremy Corbyn is leaving open the option of supporting an alternative caretaker prime minister, as he vows to do “everything necessary to stop a disastrous no-deal Brexit”.

In a speech in the midlands, the Labour leader will not rule out backing a different stopgap, after the Liberal Democrats and rebel Tories dismissed putting him in No 10 to avert a crash-out on 31 October.

Aides said he remained focused on seeking to persuade MPs to back him, if Boris Johnson can be toppled in a no-confidence vote – but described it only as the “simplest and most democratic” solution.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/corbyn-caretaker-pm-stop-no-deal-brexit-a9064616.html

Hopefully he will see sense once he’s spoken to all. 

If he digs his heels in and refuses an alternative caretaker he will not get his vote through, not a chance. 

[Jip99]

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It’s difficult, in the face of Johnson and the extremists in the Tory Party pushing for an economy wrecking, job destroying no-deal Brexit, to argue against recalling Parliament.

 

Of course those willing to damage the economy and other people’s jobs with a no-deal Brexit (a threat that was dreamed up to get a deal) will not be happy with Parliament being recalled and the risk that poses to their dreams of self harm.

 

Voters across the nation will see this through the lens of bills to pay, children to feed and clothe.

 

Time for Parliament to put a stop to a no-deal Brexit that even Johnson publicly says he does not want.

 

 

 

 

No point in recalling parliament as there are no solutions there - as has been proved in the last 6 months.

 

Any action will happen on the near continent otherwise no deal Brexit happens on 31 October.

 

Corbyn can go and put his feet up - he has been f-all use in the last 3 years anyway.

[baboon]

29 minutes ago, Jip99 said:

No point in recalling parliament as there are no solutions there - as has been proved in the last 6 months.

So what? Recall them anyway and disrupt their cushy holidays. They have had no problem in leaving us is limbo for the past three years while taking our money. F- 'em.

[Jip99]

4 minutes ago, baboon said:

So what? Recall them anyway and disrupt their cushy holidays. They have had no problem in leaving us is limbo for the past three years while taking our money. F- 'em.

 

I understand your sentiment but the useless b4stards would only waffle on causing more uncertainty. 

 

At least on holiday they can’t do any damage.........can they ?

[Jip99]

2 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

Great move. Hope it succeeds. 

 

 

Ha Ha....

 

 

More clutching at straws.

[JHolmesJr]

5 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

 

“There’s a need now to bring MPs (members of parliament) back together again...."

So they can just talk nonsense for another 2 months and do nothing like they did for 3 years.

No thanks....pack yer bags....we're leaving.

[baboon]

3 minutes ago, Jip99 said:

 

I understand your sentiment but the useless b4stards would only waffle on causing more uncertainty. 

 

At least on holiday they can’t do any damage.........can they ?

They will anyway, once back from their holidays.

Look, let's put our Brexit differences aside for a moment. The UK is in bedlam, the GBPeso sinking, the likes of us taking out our frustrations on one another. The least our representatives can do is show up for work and either steady the ship or go down with it... 

[ukrules]

There is no crisis, things are proceeding as expected, a little late but fully expected.

 

The EU made no deal, no surprise there, we all knew this would happen before the referendum, what we didn't know is that instead of exiting on 'exit day' they would delay it.

 

I've been reading lately that changing date of the 'exit day' may itself have been outside of what's allowed by law without an act of parliament and there certainly wasn't an act of parliament to change the exit, they merely rejected the 'non deals' offered by the EU.

 

This is where it gets interesting because the old 'May' government challenged the 'Robin Tilbrook' high court action which suggests that the UK has already left the EU due to the lack of an act of parliament changing 'exit day'. It's believed that the Boris Johnson administration could withdraw government support for the opposition to the Tilbrook action, if that happens it means it's over and done with already.

 

To summarise :

The definition of ‘exit day’ had not changed from 29 March 2019 at 11 pm. Accordingly, a Minister of the Crown did not have the power or authority to change the definition.

 

Source : https://robintilbrook.blogspot.com/2019/08/another-solictors-view-on-defend-brexit.html

Edited August 19, 2019 by ukrules

[upu2]

What is this crisis exactly? Leave the EU with or without we will have some difficult times at first as you would expect but we will get over it

[Loiner]

What is this crisis exactly? Leave the EU with or without we will have some difficult times at first as you would expect but we will get over it

Crisis, what crisis? Well the LAB govt didn’t manage to sort out their own mess of 1979. They wouldn’t be capable of resolving their self declared crisis around Brexit either.
Not that there will be any particular crisis anyway. The govt and business have had three years to prepare for it, no matter how hard they lobbied not to. Only the most stupid of Remainers will have believed their propaganda so much for it to become a self fulfilling prophecy. The rest will have to adapt and thrive with the rest of us.

[Bluespunk]

6 hours ago, Jip99 said:

 

 

Ha Ha....

 

 

More clutching at straws.

Nope

[Bluespunk]

7 hours ago, Loiner said:

Attempted power grab by the unelectable Jezza and LAB.


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And what percentage of the electorate voted for johnson as pm?

[Jip99]

7 hours ago, baboon said:

They will anyway, once back from their holidays.

Look, let's put our Brexit differences aside for a moment. The UK is in bedlam, the GBPeso sinking, the likes of us taking out our frustrations on one another. The least our representatives can do is show up for work and either steady the ship or go down with it... 

 

 

You have got a like from me for your sentiment.

 

I still have reservations about what they can achieve - Corbyns effort to recall parliament is not based on a positive mindset to progress the process - it is solely destructive and self-serving.

[Jip99]

23 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

And what percentage of the electorate voted for johnson as pm?

 

 

The electorate in this case was the Tory party members - as per the democratic rules for choosing a new party leader - the answer is, a sizeable majority.

 

 

What percentage of the electorate voted to join the EU ?

[Bluespunk]

10 minutes ago, Jip99 said:

 

 

The electorate in this case was the Tory party members - as per the democratic rules for choosing a new party leader - the answer is, a sizeable majority.

 

 

What percentage of the electorate voted to join the EU ?

Hmm, so you agree that what corbyn is attempting is perfectly legitimate under those same democratic rules. 

 

As the electorate, in this case, will be those MPs elected by the nation. 

 

And then the whole country will then get their chance to choose whether they want to go down johnson’s no deal road to perdition or not. 

 

Good to know we agree. 

Edited August 20, 2019 by Bluespunk

[Jip99]

 

1 hour ago, Bluespunk said:

Hmm, so you agree that what corbyn is attempting is perfectly legitimate under those same democratic rules. 

 

As the electorate, in this case, will be those MPs elected by the nation. 

 

And then the whole country will then get their chance to choose whether they want to go down johnson’s no deal road to perdition or not. 

 

Good to know we agree. 

 

Different rules - Corbyn in fact benefited from party member support when his own MPs tried to get rid of him.

 

I don't think what he has tried, and failed, to do is intended for the benefit of the country and the Brexit process.

 

I doubt we agree on much on this matter ........ although I am sure you will share the following sentiment:-

 

 

Edited August 20, 2019 by Rimmer
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[Bluespunk]

1 hour ago, Jip99 said:

 

Different rules - Corbyn in fact benefited from party member support when his own MPs tried to get rid of him.

 

I don't think what he has tried, and failed, to do is intended for the benefit of the country and the Brexit process.

 

I doubt we agree on much on this matter ........ although I am sure you will share the following sentiment:-

 

 

Don’t share it at all, though I don’t particularly like the man, he’s better than johnson in one key aspect.  

 

He is committing to allowing the country a vote on the no deal approach. 

 

Also I disagree with the notion what he is attempting to do in parliament is any different to what the no dealers did. 

[Jip99]

2 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

Don’t share it at all, though I don’t particularly like the man, he’s better than johnson in one key aspect.  

 

He is committing to allowing the country a vote on the no deal approach. 

 

Johnson would be committed to a deal if the EU offer something better than deal Corbyn was not prepared to support.

 

 

Fighting against no deal and fighting against a deal does make Corbyn better than anybody........ the picture is accurate.