snoop1130 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Cabinet okays anti-pollution measures proposed by PCD By THE NATION Narumon Pinyosinwat The Cabinet approved the three measures proposed by the Pollution Control Department (PCD) to tackle air pollution in Greater Bangkok, Cabinet spokesperson Narumon Pinyosinwat said on Tuesday (October 1). “These measures are based on the lessons learned from similar problems back in 2017 and 2018,” she said. The three measures to be implemented are: 1. Coping with pressing problems and crises more efficiently; 2. Tackling with pollution at the source; 3. Boosting management efficiency.” Narumon said the first measure tackles smog on a stage-by-stage basis, such as it’s business as usual when PM2.5 is lower than 50 micrograms per cubic metre of air (µg/m3), tighter controls will be in place when PM2.5 is between 51µg/m3 and 75µg/m3 and strict controls will be implemented when it exceeds 76µg/m3 but does not exceed 100µg/m3. "When pollution exceeds the 100µg/m3 mark, the Pollution Control Department and National Environment Board can present emergency measures to the prime minister to execute immediately,” she said. Meanwhile, the second and third measures will be implemented on a short-term basis from 2018 to 2021 and in the long-term from 2022 to 2024, the spokesperson added. Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30376951 -- © Copyright The Nation Thailand 2019-10-01 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Calach Posted October 1, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 1, 2019 Burning incense, smoking cigarettes and cooking barbecues are forbidden until pollution returns to healthier levels. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Fred white Posted October 1, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 1, 2019 23 minutes ago, Calach said: Burning incense, smoking cigarettes and cooking barbecues are forbidden until pollution returns to healthier levels. But not burning trash or fields 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post madmitch Posted October 1, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 1, 2019 1 hour ago, snoop1130 said: Meanwhile, the second and third measures will be implemented on a short-term basis from 2018 to 2021 and in the long-term from 2022 to 2024, the spokesperson added. Great. It's happening retroactively so we won't have the pollution problems that have already occurred! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chazar Posted October 1, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 1, 2019 1 hour ago, snoop1130 said: 1. Coping with pressing problems and crises more efficiently; 2. Tackling with pollution at the source; 3. Boosting management efficiency.” how much more <deleted> can they spout 3 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardColeman Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 1 hour ago, snoop1130 said: “These measures are based on the lessons learned from similar problems back in 2017 and 2018,” she said. You can only base something on lessons learned if you didn't actually impliment the lesson learned ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeaMonkey Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchadian Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 (edited) Water sprays? Songkran must have arrived. https://www.thaipbsworld.com/pm-warns-private-and-public-sectors-to-cooperate-in-reducing-harmful-emissions/ PM warns private and public sectors to cooperate in reducing harmful emissions Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha today warned members of the public and the private sector to significantly reduce their carbon and dust emissions or face tougher action by the government. His advice came as the haze and general pollution in Bangkok’s atmosphere appears to be worsening. October 1, 2019 Edited October 1, 2019 by anchadian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TallGuyJohninBKK Posted October 1, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 1, 2019 2 hours ago, snoop1130 said: Narumon said the first measure tackles smog on a stage-by-stage basis, such as it’s business as usual when PM2.5 is lower than 50 micrograms per cubic metre of air (µg/m3), tighter controls will be in place when PM2.5 is between 51µg/m3 and 75µg/m3 and strict controls will be implemented when it exceeds 76µg/m3 but does not exceed 100µg/m3. Come on, Honey!!!! Don't keep us all in suspense... WHAT controls??? Don't keep teasing us this way.... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chazar Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 8 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: Come on, Honey!!!! Don't keep us all in suspense... WHAT controls??? Don't keep teasing us this way.... Gas Mk1 for 20 minutes I think........to keep on topic make it carbon monoxide gas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legend49 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 9 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: Come on, Honey!!!! Don't keep us all in suspense... WHAT controls??? Don't keep teasing us this way.... She wouldnt have a clue what that technical data is stating. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken George Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingstonkid Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Okay so they are going to act when it is an emergency but not before. Why not try some positive things. Like block off the area around the palace and the Wat Pho area make it foot traffic or bicycle only. Block off the front of Siam Paragon so that people can set up shops and thereby cut down on cars. Better still take the whole silom area from National stadium to Chidlom and make it vehicle free. Anyone wanting to use the BTS between these points get it free Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
30la Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 14 hours ago, snoop1130 said: 1. Coping with pressing problems and crises more efficiently; 2. Tackling with pollution at the source; 3. Boosting management efficiency.” You forget that without the executive it is impossible to implement your plan! What is lacking in Thailand is an efficient police that is able to enforce the laws! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hotchilli Posted October 2, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 2, 2019 (edited) 14 hours ago, snoop1130 said: 1. Coping with pressing problems and crises more efficiently; 2. Tackling with pollution at the source; 3. Boosting management efficiency.” I'll go and buy a mask then !!!! Edited October 2, 2019 by hotchilli 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimmer Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 A post in bold caps has been removed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oziex1 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 They missed Step:4 Blame a nearby country. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo2014 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 13 hours ago, Chazar said: how much more <deleted> can they spout Its much easier to spout BS and nonsense statements than implement effective measures such as eliminating diesel vehicles, monitoring factories, moving crematoriums out of the city and ensuring they have proper filters, stopping open burning.... you know the tough stuff that might actually result in tangible results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainman34014 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 An Infant School Class of small kids could tell you what needs doing.... but getting it done is another matter ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 18 hours ago, snoop1130 said: The three measures to be implemented are: 1. Coping with pressing problems and crises more efficiently; 2. Tackling with pollution at the source; 3. Boosting management efficiency.” Changing officials for ones that are capable & knowledgeable in tacking all of the above would be a good "measure to implement" the sooner the better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Nick Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Oh I see! So nothing meaningful will ever be done! Again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LetsCleanUpTHAILAND Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 19 hours ago, Calach said: Burning incense, smoking cigarettes and cooking barbecues are forbidden until pollution returns to healthier levels. And burning trash. It's common outside of bangkok at government buildings, in peoples backyards and in the countryside. leaves, small branches are racked into a small pile with plastic straws (contain BPA), plastic bags (contain petrol and toxic chemicals) and plastic cups (made with one of the most toxic plastics - #6) and they are all burned together. PM2.5 refers to only size, NOT toxicity. A PM2.5 sized piece of dust is not going to affect your body the same as a PM2.5 sized carcinogenic fragment of trash smoke soot. That's why we gotta stop burning trash. It's a big deal that few people know about. I can fix this problem, but I need help. That's why I'm on here. I need a Thai partner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcnx Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 18 hours ago, Fred white said: But not burning trash or fields Because that smoke comes from Myanmar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcnx Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 6 minutes ago, LetsCleanUpTHAILAND said: I can fix this problem, but I need help. That's why I'm on here. I need a Thai partner. Unless you’re going to release a virus that will wipe out the population, you can’t fix these people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketyo Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 These three just mean "must do better"... what are they going to do except work more efficiently... and why were they working so inefficiently before? 1. Coping with pressing problems and crises more efficiently; 2. Tackling with pollution at the source; 3. Boosting management efficiency.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxYakov Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 (edited) "Narumon said the first measure tackles smog on a stage-by-stage basis, such as it’s business as usual when PM2.5 is lower than 50 micrograms per cubic metre of air (µg/m3), tighter controls will be in place when PM2.5 is between 51µg/m3 and 75µg/m3 and strict controls will be implemented when it exceeds 76µg/m3 but does not exceed 100µg/m3." What?! Treat 50 µg/m3 as "business as usual"? They must be confusing µg/m3 with the Air Quality Index (AQI) or consciously moving the goal posts so they don't really have to address the problem. I get concerned and start trouble shooting If I get above 5 µg/m3 (roughly, 15 AQI) in my main living space. The conversion ratio I use to go from µg/m3 to AQI is 1:3 to be in the ballpark - based Air Visual's side-by-side display of µg/m3 and AQI on their site. Of course, there is no way that Bangkok air can even get in the ballpark with the cleanliness of my living space air because I have very tight controls on it at all times and don't have serious pollution sources. My job is to protect my breathing air from Bangkok's out-of-control air pollution and do a pretty job of it, I believe. And as many have already asked: what "controls" are they going to "tighten"? Spraying water into the air? Send children home from school? Didn't Prayut shut down 600 Bangkok businesses when it got bad last year? Or is just me hallucinating again? Edited October 2, 2019 by MaxYakov Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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