Visa woes

[spiekerjozef]

You'll need a new passport for a start...

[Prince77]

I am quite positive that you could get a non Immigrant type B with single entry. Contact the Thai honorary consulate in Stuttgart and explain that you need this visa type in order to prepare your new business.

 

It should work. Please see: http://www.thaikonsulat.de/13847.html

 

Good luck.

[murphya33]

you need to wait until next year to come back to Thailand. 2 months will go quickly

[ananda23]

6 hours ago, Prince77 said:

I am quite positive that you could get a non Immigrant type B with single entry. Contact the Thai honorary consulate in Stuttgart and explain that you need this visa type in order to prepare your new business.

Any reason for trying the honorary consulate in Stuttgart specifically? I´m near Frankfurt so I went to the Embassy there to inquire about my options. Still waiting for their reply though.

[alex8912]

I sometimes wonder how many more times Chiang Mai Airport is so easy to enter is mentioned and then it won’t be? 

[Jack Cook]

I often read about these issues I have been in and out of Bangkok from Australia 14 times in the last 12 months and get the stamp on arrival. I’ve never had any issue or been questioned. Seems Thai immigration officers must just make the decision or ignore it.

[ananda23]

1 hour ago, Jack Cook said:

I often read about these issues I have been in and out of Bangkok from Australia 14 times in the last 12 months and get the stamp on arrival. I’ve never had any issue or been questioned. Seems Thai immigration officers must just make the decision or ignore it.

My guess is you stayed a couple of weeks in Oz each time so they don´t assume you might be working illegally in Thailand. I was in Thailand for 8 months straight (minus the visa runs), that´s probably why they assume I work illegally (which I don´t unless you count working on my own resort).

[brianj1964]

1 hour ago, ananda23 said:

My guess is you stayed a couple of weeks in Oz each time so they don´t assume you might be working illegally in Thailand. I was in Thailand for 8 months straight (minus the visa runs), that´s probably why they assume I work illegally (which I don´t unless you count working on my own resort).

do you need a work permit to do work on your resort? if the answer is yes and you dont have one then you are working illegally

 

[Myran]

1 hour ago, ananda23 said:

My guess is you stayed a couple of weeks in Oz each time so they don´t assume you might be working illegally in Thailand. I was in Thailand for 8 months straight (minus the visa runs), that´s probably why they assume I work illegally (which I don´t unless you count working on my own resort).

If you're working on your own resort on tourist visas and visa exempt entries you are most definitely working illegally.

[ananda23]

1 minute ago, Myran said:

If you're working on your own resort on tourist visas and visa exempt entries you are most definitely working illegally.

Does telling the workers what to do and drawing up plans qualify as work? I personally don´t think so but some may disagree.

[lkv]

6 hours ago, ananda23 said:

Any reason for trying the honorary consulate in Stuttgart specifically?

When it comes to requirements, they generally are the easiest. In other words, they sort of give visas to everyone with minimal documentation. 

 

1. Honorary Consulates (easiest)

2. Consulates (in between)

3. Embassies (the most strict)

 

The honorary ones in Germany were extremely friendly in the past from what I have heard.

Edited October 30, 2019 by lkv

[EricTh]

On 10/29/2019 at 11:36 PM, gk10002000 said:

sure thing. Which Immigration Office and Officer would you like it from?  Various suggestions:

No more than two SETVs in one calendar year?

No more than 6 Visa Exempts in one calendar year?

No more than six months total time in country in one calendar year?

Many consecutive years of four or five months on all sorts of different visas, ED, SETV, METV, etc.  Many reports of IOs deciding you come too many times,  You not tourist.

Various other permutations possible

 

 

In the past, immigration have been too lenient and allowed long term stayers on tourist visa but starting from July 2019, it seems that's no longer the case at least in Bangkok.

 

Chiang Mai is now lenient but may not be forever too.

 

Immigration will be suspicious why people never thought of applying for business visa when they were in Thailand for so many years?

 

And only now when the enforcement become tougher for long-term tourists.

 

 

Edited October 30, 2019 by EricTh

[EricTh]

4 hours ago, alex8912 said:

I sometimes wonder how many more times Chiang Mai Airport is so easy to enter is mentioned and then it won’t be? 

 

Immigration officers seem to be monitoring this forum so it's just  a matter of time before they tighten Chiang Mai airport too.

 

[LivinLOS]

5 hours ago, ananda23 said:

That´s probably why they assume I work illegally (which I don´t unless you count working on my own resort).

Erm.. well.. yeah... 

[Ron jeremy]

On October 29, 2019 at 5:13 PM, ananda23 said:

Not sure if you read my original post. I am in the process of setting up a Thai Limited company so I can get a proper visa. I just need a solution for the next 2 months until I´ve sorted everything out.

I read your original post, u have lived here for 10 years on tourist , student and business visas.

hence your problems.

[aldriglikvid]

When one gets deported like this, who pays for the ticket? 

[lkv]

1 minute ago, Ron jeremy said:

I read your original post, u have lived here for 10 years on tourist , student and business visas.

hence your problems.

Sorry, I read his post again, I am failing to see where he asks: "why do I have these problems".

[ananda23]

1 hour ago, Ron jeremy said:

I read your original post, u have lived here for 10 years on tourist , student and business visas.

hence your problems.

For what it´s worth, I don´t blame immigration for denying me entry. I used tourist visas because it was easy and worked until recently. I really should´ve set up my new business earlier. But it is what it is and I need to fix my problem. Hence my post.

[ananda23]

1 hour ago, aldriglikvid said:

When one gets deported like this, who pays for the ticket? 

Obviously I had to pay for it myself. If you can´t you´ll probably get locked up. 

[ananda23]

1 hour ago, lkv said:

Sorry, I read his post again, I am failing to see where he asks: "why do I have these problems".

Indeed I am not exactly surprised I was denied entry. It´s entirely my fault to be in this situation and I should´ve gotten a different visa a few months ago. No need to blame immigration, they´re just doing their job. 

[Myran]

10 hours ago, ananda23 said:

Does telling the workers what to do and drawing up plans qualify as work? I personally don´t think so but some may disagree.

Of course it does. You're working as a manager, which is how the authorities would see it. I would stay out of sight while doing it if I were you.

[Prince77]

18 hours ago, ananda23 said:

Any reason for trying the honorary consulate in Stuttgart specifically? I´m near Frankfurt so I went to the Embassy there to inquire about my options. Still waiting for their reply though.

No specific reason - I just had good experience with them a few years back.

[ananda23]

5 hours ago, Myran said:

Of course it does. You're working as a manager, which is how the authorities would see it. I would stay out of sight while doing it if I were you.

I´m in the countryside in a small village so no worries. I also have a good relationship with the local authorities as I´m doing charity work in the area so that was never a problem. I´m hoping to get a 3 months non-immigrant B visa with a fresh passport so I should be safe soon anyway. Speaking of which, would working as a manager to set up the business be legal with this visa?

[from the home of CC]

20 hours ago, alex8912 said:

I sometimes wonder how many more times Chiang Mai Airport is so easy to enter is mentioned and then it won’t be? 

I think there are many western posters who arrogantly feel that there's no possible way anyone associated with Thai Immigration can read English. This site I'm sure has been a treasure trove of information for them in the steps needed to keep plugging the holes in their policies. Too many instances over the years I've been reading this site where I've seen the boasting of how to 'beat' Thai immigration doing their jobs only to read later on that the hole was plugged. To those affected now you can thank the hordes before you who felt the laws of Thailand didn't apply to them.

[lkv]

35 minutes ago, from the home of CC said:

This site I'm sure has been a treasure trove of information for them in the steps needed to keep plugging the holes in their policies.

You are suggesting that, had it not been for this website, poor Immigration would not have "realised some are misusing certain types of visas".

 

So, you're telling me that, when i was using double entry visas and spent in the neighboring country a grand total of 5 minutes (to say that I have smoked a cigarette in Cambodia also), they had absolutely no idea what was going on, when they were stamping me back?

 

So it was my fault that I got stamped back in 2015?

 

If they had a problem, maybe they could have mentioned it in 2015???

 

Thousands of people, some like me, independent, and all the other tens of vans.

 

Or when they told one of my Asian friends on ED that was getting 1 month extensions only from CW (school was on the "bad list"), and the guys at DMK mentioned he is "studying quite a bit", again they had no clue.

 

Or when I went to Hong Kong a couple of years ago, and the guy was mumbling: "very long vacation", again, they had no clue.

 

Thank god for thaivisa.com

 

Don't you realise they tighten the screws from the top slowly, and these people just execute what they are being told?

 

If tomorrow, the "big guy" says: Let everyone come in, then everyone is a genuine tourist again all of the sudden.

 

Won't happen (military), but just saying.

Edited October 31, 2019 by lkv

[from the home of CC]

18 minutes ago, lkv said:

You are suggesting that, had it not been for this website, poor Immigration would not have "realised some are misusing certain types of visas".

 

So, you're telling me that, when i was using double entry visas and spent in the neighboring country a grand total of 5 minutes (to say that I have smoked a cigarette in Cambodia also), they had absolutely no idea what was going on, when they were stamping me back?

 

So it was my fault that I got stamped back in 2015?

 

If they had a problem, maybe they could have mentioned it in 2015???

 

Thousands of people, some like me, independent, and all the other tens of vans.

 

Or when they told one of my Asian friends on ED that was getting 1 month extensions only from CW (school was on the "bad list"), and the guys at DMK mentioned he is "studying quite a bit", again they had no clue.

 

Or when I went to Hong Kong a couple of years ago, and the guy was mumbling: "very long vacation", again, they had no clue.

 

Thank god for thaivisa.com

 

Don't you realise they tighten the screws from the top slowly, and these people just execute what they are being told?

 

If tomorrow, the "big guy" says: Let everyone come in, then everyone is a genuine tourist again all of the sudden.

 

Won't happen (military), but just saying.

that would never happen again, way too much abuse of the systems..