Motorbike exhausts must meet Euro 4 standards

[bristolgeoff]

i have seen some dodgy exhaust as u ride round towns of thailand or where u live.u have a test every year for road tax.so i don,t think it make a big difference.with burning and everything else a bike exhaust is small fry

[observer90210]

How about rather giving all the farmers up north,  some Euro IV education in agronomy and mainly on disposal of farmland vegetation ?

[mikebell]

And who will monitor these exhausts; if Pattaya police allow convoys of seven or eight black smoke belching buses to tour the province, sometimes giving them a VIP escort, how are they going to check bike emissions; they can't even get taximeters to obey the law.

[Prairieboy]

Standards and regulations are great - now if only they were applied and enforced.  Oops, I forgot TIT.

 

[jlwilliamsjr18]

Relax for a couple reasons.

1. Absence of law enforcement.

2. Most motorbikes outside cities are not registered. 

 

[Destiny1990]

Ban and replace them for the silent E bikes.

[legend49]

15 hours ago, ChipButty said:

How about European driving standards first?

Or any European standard? Why use European standards I thought we lived in SE Asia?

[Deli]

Blame the bikers, easy target. Industry, trucks buses, boats and all the trash at the roadside = mai pen rai

[mickey rat]

16 hours ago, watso63 said:

Noisy pipes save lives ????️????️????️

I'm pretty sure they are not referring to noise pollution. The locals live for the noise, it's a part of the culture. There is no way they could take that away from them. As for saving lives, no. 1 motorcycle death rate in the world would beg to differ. 

Edited November 8, 2019 by mickey rat

[SS1]

16 hours ago, CGW said:

Great ! ???? 

 

No more noisy motorbikes, all the aftermarket shops selling exhausts will go out of business ????

 

Not in my lifetime though, more pointless "we will" do and no meaningful action! 

 

Realise you're joking, but it will be definitely the opposite. The problem is that with these Euro 4 standards the original exhausts get bigger, heavier and more restrictive. So they are usually the first thing to replace (on a high performance bike). I mean look at the one below, it's like a massive hoover. 

 

 

16 hours ago, watso63 said:

Noisy pipes save lives ????️????️????️

 

True that.. anyone riding a big bike in Bangkok can confirm it makes a diffence. 

 

15 hours ago, jvs said:

Depends how you look at it,noisy pipes sometimes get people killed also.

There are different levels of noise, what about a noisy bike that drives by just once

compared to the kids that have nothing better to do then run up and down the soi making as much noise they possibly can.

True also.. indeed a difference between too loud a and nice sound. The modded 125ccs <deleted> everyone off. 

Edited November 8, 2019 by SS1

[Vacuum]

16 hours ago, watso63 said:

Noisy pipes save lives ????️????️????️

Not if drive back and forth outside my house...

[stephehr]

Nobody to enforce the law ha ha stupid

[smudger1951]

Is there a branch of "Extinction rebellion" in Thailand ready to set up home in Bangkok like they did in London last week. 

[findlay13]

13 hours ago, mok199 said:

Enforcment of any standards to any vehicle already in the hands of a thai ,is a dream in this nation...

Tea money will fix it

 

[findlay13]

10 hours ago, BigBadGeordie said:

Whats next? Do they need lights as well?

 NOT required travelling the wrong way on the road at night. All other times ,"up to you"????

Edited November 8, 2019 by findlay13

[Assurancetourix]

17 hours ago, webfact said:

Motorbike exhausts must meet Euro 4 standards

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Chongalulu]

17 hours ago, watso63 said:

Noisy pipes save lives ????️????️????️

It won’t save your life if you rev it outside my house. ???? 

???? 

[1duckyboy]

16 hours ago, Just Weird said:

Decibels don't affect pollution that Euro 4 standards address.

Interesting, in the U.S., Environmental Protection Agency standards for motorbikes include maximum noise level standards.

[Chongalulu]

1 hour ago, legend49 said:

Or any European standard? Why use European standards I thought we lived in SE Asia?

In the absence of European safety standards you’re far less likely to "live" in SE Asia.

Edited November 8, 2019 by nchuckle

[Moonlover]

The big challenge is not getting motorcycle manufactures to fit clean exhaust systems to their machines. That's the easy bit.

 

It's stopping owners from promptly removing them and fitting loud, air polluting 'bean can' exhausts as soon as they've bought them!

[dpeti73]

16 hours ago, Just Weird said:

That would be Euro 4, and Thailand complies with that standard already for diesels.

I guess that’s Euro6 at least in Europe 

[Tops]

17 hours ago, watso63 said:

Noisy pipes save lives ????️????️????️

I had a discussion about this last weekend with a Thai. He told me to get myself a other exhaust system on my high powered bike. I could gain about 1 HP more with a complete new exhaust system and my bike would make some noise. I told him that 1 HP more would only mean less than 2% extra power and that I don't like having more noise when riding. He said that my bike should make a lot of noise and that people would hear me coming so they would notice me and that should be safer.

 

I told him that a Somchai in a pickup wouldn't care if there was a bike with a lot of noise coming. I told him driving safe has to everything with anticipation and using brains. He asked me antisiption, what is antisiption ?? He never heard the word or phrase anticipation. I told him that is was looking further than the smart phone in your hand while driving and predict what might be coming or happening further down the road. Ohh, he said. We have Bhudda for that.

[whaleboneman]

18 hours ago, thaiguzzi said:

R E A D      M Y      L I P S,

Pollution in this country is NOT CAUSED by motorcycles!

It is caused by old, unregulated diesel trucks, lorries and buses.

One million Honda Waves going to and fro to work in BKK everyday do not emit 1% of the emissions and pollutants that 100 old buses and trucks do.

Jesus.

End of.

 

A quick calculation-you believe that one bus or truck pollutes as much as one million Honda waves. Maybe if all the Hondas are out of gas and being pushed.

[heybuz]

15 hours ago, ChipButty said:

She should spend a week with me I could show her a few things

She's probably seen it all before different sizes of course ????

[petertucker48]

R E A D      M Y      L I P S,

Pollution in this country is NOT CAUSED by motorcycles!

It is caused by old, unregulated diesel trucks, lorries and buses.

One million Honda Waves going to and fro to work in BKK everyday do not emit 1% of the emissions and pollutants that 100 old buses and trucks do.

Jesus.

End of.

 

 

SPOT ON !!!!

[p414]

17 hours ago, overherebc said:

Every morning I hear one guy going to work and I reckon he has a BS 4 exhaust fitted.

Back Street 4 shops down.

ONE GUY???...Lucky you.

 

[Trusty]

That goes for sure in the right direction as it was in the past years actually too already.

But as usual, so many posters don't or don't want to read and understand the article properly.

The approval is valid to all in Thailand manufactured Mmotorbikes in the future.

NOT FOR MOTORBIKES ALREADY SOLD OR ON THE STREET.

This is a complete other story and has nothing to do with each other.

Nevertheless. It is the question of does it make sense do regulate that if thousands of Motorcyclists (Farangs too) just modify the exhaust just at the first day for more or less understandable reasons.

Yes, all of you are really right to blame to all of them as it is highly respect less to modify the exhaust (mostly for sound reasons) to all other traffic and peoples who are on the street.

I by my self do totally not understand why peoples are doing that as with 4- stroke engines there is even not really more performance to expect with this kind of modifications.

It is not allowed anyway, it cost a lot of money and most likely the insurance coverage is away and if you are catched by the police who here you now from far away approaching, they may will fine you correctly. On the other side, there is no benefit or if, just very little. And if you doing it correctly by modify the engine mapping too, it really cost you a lot of money.

Vehiclemanufactors worldwide investing millions and millions of Dollars to keep it quiet and here are so many people thinking it is not good or not good enough for them. Eieiei

Mankind is crazy really.     

[overherebc]

12 minutes ago, p414 said:

ONE GUY???...Lucky you.

 

He's the alarm call for the others.

[Bangkok Barry]

It doesn't matter a rat's fart what regulations they come up with if there is no enforcement. Which there isn't.

[Zapitapi]

18 hours ago, Just Weird said:

"Pollution in this country is NOT CAUSED by motorcycles!"

Motorcycles are zero-emission now, yes?  No.

 

"It is caused by old, unregulated diesel trucks, lorries and buses".

If you want to blame old vehicles (the OP refers to new ones) then you have to include your "emissions-free" motorcycles in that also!  By the way, there are regulations for trucks, and buses.

 

"End of."

No, it isn't; "end of" suggests that you think there are no more credible arguments.

yeah agreed its not black n white "end of" BUT the regulators are going for the low hanging fruit in their view as regulators.. in short.. e.g. the yearly burns and the daily rubbish burns with all the toxins released are imho more dangerous as the entire vehicle emissions (and to make this clear..when i speak about emissions i mean TOXINS not co2)