'Shameful' of UK not to publish report on Russian meddling, says Hillary Clinton

[snoop1130]

'Shameful' of UK not to publish report on Russian meddling, says Hillary Clinton

By Costas Pitas, Guy Faulconbridge

 

Former U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton speaks during an event promoting "The Book of Gutsy Women" at the Southbank Centre in London, Britain, November 10, 2019. REUTERS/Simon Dawson

 

LONDON (Reuters) - Former U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton criticised as “shameful” British Prime Minister Boris Johnson’s decision not to publish a parliamentary report on Russian meddling in UK politics until after an election next month.

 

The report by parliament’s Intelligence and Security Committee (ISC) has been cleared by the security services but it has not yet been given approval for publication by Johnson’s government, so will not appear before the Dec. 12 vote.

 

“I find it inexplicable that your government will not release a government report about Russian influence. Inexplicable and shameful,” Clinton told the BBC in remarks reported on Tuesday. “Every person who votes in this country deserves to see that report before your election happens.”

 

“There is no doubt - we know it in our country, we have seen it in Europe, we have seen it here - that Russia in particular is determined to try to shape the politics of Western democracies,” Clinton said.

 

Britain has accused Russia of meddling in the domestic politics and elections of several Western countries, including the U.S. presidential election. The British government says it has not seen evidence of “successful” Russian interference in UK elections, including the 2016 vote to leave the EU.

 

Moscow has repeatedly denied any meddling and says the West is gripped by anti-Russian hysteria. U.S. intelligence agencies say Russia sought to influence the 2016 presidential election through hacking and spreading propaganda, aimed at helping Donald Trump defeat Clinton, his Democratic opponent.

 

The British parliament’s Intelligence and Security Committee’s report contains allegations of Russia’s attempts to interfere in Western politics and includes evidence from Britain’s main intelligence agencies, MI5, GCHQ and MI6.

 

The report was completed in March and then went through redaction by the Cabinet Office and security services, a process completed by early October, according to Dominic Grieve, who chaired the committee.

 

Grieve, who was expelled from the parliamentary group of Johnson’s Conservatives for defying him over Brexit, said the report was sent to the prime minister on Oct. 17 for final approval, a process he said customarily takes 10 days.

 

Johnson’s government says the delay is a result of normal procedures: “There is a proper process that these reports go through. The ISC are aware of that,” Johnson’s spokesman said on Monday. “That process hadn’t completed by the time that parliament was dissolved.”

 

As the report is supposed to be presented to parliament, which is not sitting during the election campaign, its publication could be delayed by months.

 

The opposition Labour Party has said the decision not to release the report is an attempt to withhold the truth from the public and has said both Johnson and his most senior adviser, Dominic Cummings, have links to Russia.

 

Johnson’s government has denied suggestions by the Labour Party that either the Conservative Party or the government are linked to Russian disinformation campaigns.

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2019-11-12

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[Chomper Higgot]

If the Government has nothing to hide it has nothing to fear.

 

Publish the report and let the electorate see for themselves. 

[Slip]

Hang on- this bit: 

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As the report is supposed to be presented to parliament, which is not sitting during the election campaign, its publication could be delayed by months.

If that is true, as much as I like to have a dig at the present government, then it is what it is.

 

EDIT: Having done a bit more reading, I see that they could and should have released it before the dissolution of parliament.  My faith in the perfidy of Tories is restored.

 

Edited November 12, 2019 by Slip

[cyril sneer]

hopefully she is correct but it never gets published

[billd766]

4 minutes ago, cyril sneer said:

hopefully she is correct but it never gets published

Why not?

[Thomas J]

30 minutes ago, snoop1130 said:

“There is no doubt - we know it in our country, we have seen it in Europe, we have seen it here - that Russia in particular is determined to try to shape the politics of Western democracies,” Clinton said.

Boy is that the pot calling the kettle black.  These are just some of the instances that the USA has "meddled" in other peoples politics. 

Obama sent money from USA taxpayers to group in Israel to defeat Netanyahu

Obama bombed Lybia to oust  maammar gaddafi 
Bush sent troops to remove Saddam Hussein and installed U.S. backed government

Bush sent troops to Afghanistan and installed Hami Karzi

The U.S. installed Mohammad Reza Shah Pahlavi, into power as head of Iran
The US installed Manuel Noriega into power in Panama
The U.S. installed Ngo Dinh Diem as president of South Vietnam 
The US backed Syngman Rhee as president of South Korea
The USA attempted a failed coup on Fidel Castro

Every major power spies on and interferes in the political process of both its allies and enemies.  From all that has been determined the "Russian meddling" was minimal and did not favor one candidate over another.  It was intended to sow discord and that they were successful in doing. 

 

[Puchaiyank]

When HRC speaks...people listen...and when they quit laughing...they change the channel...????

[Tippaporn]

I personally do not believe in evil.  Honestly, I don't think it exists.  But if I did believe in evil Hillary would be the epitome of it.

[bristolboy]

41 minutes ago, Thomas J said:

Every major power spies on and interferes in the political process of both its allies and enemies.  From all that has been determined the "Russian meddling" was minimal and did not favor one candidate over another.  It was intended to sow discord and that they were successful in doing. 

 

A GOP-led Senate intel committee report states the obvious: Russia favored Trump in 2016

"The Republican-led Senate Intelligence Committee just released a report that states the obvious, but in these times is quite damning for President Donald Trump: Russia directed a disinformation campaign during the 2016 election to hurt Hillary Clinton and favor Trump...

 

“The Committee found that the IRA sought to influence the 2016 US presidential election by harming Hillary Clinton’s chances of success and supporting Donald Trump at the direction of the Kremlin,” the report reads using an acronym for the Internet Research Agency, the name for the group of the Russian hackers.

They did this in multiple ways, according to the report. 

https://www.vox.com/2019/10/8/20905160/senate-intelligence-russia-2016-election

[evadgib]

Given the antics of remainers throughout Johnsons premiership I am not in the least surprised that normal Govt business faltered. NOTHING WHATSOEVER passed through Parliament at their insistance.....& grieve was among those in pole position to ensure it stayed that way.

[SkyNets]

Maybe their server went up in flames, just like yours did

[Brigand]

Maybe Hillary, Bill and their "foundation" can come clean and publish what they know about Epstein and his subsequent murder too ... before they get on the high horse.

Edited November 12, 2019 by Brigand

[Scot123]

I'm not American but have followed and cross referenced everything I have seen. On here I see deluded and even blatant lies. HC was Russia's favorite, she sold America's uranium to Russia making billions of dollars for herself etc and was so arrogant she did not even try to hide it, she commissioned the Russia hoax report, her grubby hands and curruption everywhere from donations for assistance to foreign governments then there are the deaths that surround her. I think she should be very quite because when it is released she may not like it. Let us not forget Obama who is the only President to go into office with nothing and come out a billionaire. Yep the Dems are something else. Screaming about trump and their curruption is glaring from Biden to Polocie and the rest. 

[Slip]

Just now, Scot123 said:

I'm not American but have followed and cross referenced everything I have seen. On here I see deluded and even blatant lies. HC was Russia's favorite, she sold America's uranium to Russia making billions of dollars for herself etc and was so arrogant she did not even try to hide it, she commissioned the Russia hoax report, her grubby hands and curruption everywhere from donations for assistance to foreign governments then there are the deaths that surround her. I think she should be very quite because when it is released she may not like it. Let us not forget Obama who is the only President to go into office with nothing and come out a billionaire. Yep the Dems are something else. Screaming about trump and their curruption is glaring from Biden to Polocie and the rest. 

Swallowing nonsense wholesale is not the same as following and cross referencing. 

 

Or are you saying that Clinton was America's Blair? 

 

Now I get it.

[Scot123]

43 minutes ago, Slip said:

Swallowing nonsense wholesale is not the same as following and cross referencing. 

 

Or are you saying that Clinton was America's Blair? 

 

Now I get it.

You are quite right that is why I look at things from different sources. Your quip at the end about Blair is very true but America being bigger HC is far more evil but Blair has more blood on his hands as HC was not President over the WMD lie but her hands have a lot of American Blood on them but the difference i# HC's blood trail goes as far back to when hubby was a governor. Oh and I was never a trump fan in fact being Scottish quite disliked him. Since he has been in office I thank God every day. Yes I do know quite a bit about HC & BC I find them interesting in the same way as I enjoyed "The Godfather". 

[Catoholic]

any media that publishes or promotes anything said by Hilary Clinton is just as evil as she is.

[blazes]

Crooked Hillary:  just keep your fat ar$e out of other countries' politics.

[Geoffggi]

13 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

LONDON (Reuters) - Former U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton criticised as “shameful” British Prime Minister Boris Johnson’s decision not to publish a parliamentary report on Russian meddling in UK politics until after an election next month.

Hillary is so full of hate after loosing her election, she should just accept defeat and move on plus keep her nose out of British politics 

[cooked]

13 hours ago, Thomas J said:

Boy is that the pot calling the kettle black.  These are just some of the instances that the USA has "meddled" in other peoples politics. 

Obama sent money from USA taxpayers to group in Israel to defeat Netanyahu

Obama bombed Lybia to oust  maammar gaddafi 
Bush sent troops to remove Saddam Hussein and installed U.S. backed government

Bush sent troops to Afghanistan and installed Hami Karzi

The U.S. installed Mohammad Reza Shah Pahlavi, into power as head of Iran
The US installed Manuel Noriega into power in Panama
The U.S. installed Ngo Dinh Diem as president of South Vietnam 
The US backed Syngman Rhee as president of South Korea
The USA attempted a failed coup on Fidel Castro

Every major power spies on and interferes in the political process of both its allies and enemies.  From all that has been determined the "Russian meddling" was minimal and did not favor one candidate over another.  It was intended to sow discord and that they were successful in doing. 

 

Why stop there? How about the invasion of Cuba in the 1898? And that was the beginning.

The list is much longer.

[overherebc]

12 hours ago, Tippaporn said:

I personally do not believe in evil.  Honestly, I don't think it exists.  But if I did believe in evil Hillary would be the epitome of it.

Hell hath no fury like a woman who finds out her husband has been getting BJ's in the office and is banging whoever presents themselves The world must suffer for it.

[Benmart]

13 hours ago, Thomas J said:

Boy is that the pot calling the kettle black.  These are just some of the instances that the USA has "meddled" in other peoples politics. 

Obama sent money from USA taxpayers to group in Israel to defeat Netanyahu

Obama bombed Lybia to oust  maammar gaddafi 
Bush sent troops to remove Saddam Hussein and installed U.S. backed government

Bush sent troops to Afghanistan and installed Hami Karzi

The U.S. installed Mohammad Reza Shah Pahlavi, into power as head of Iran
The US installed Manuel Noriega into power in Panama
The U.S. installed Ngo Dinh Diem as president of South Vietnam 
The US backed Syngman Rhee as president of South Korea
The USA attempted a failed coup on Fidel Castro

Every major power spies on and interferes in the political process of both its allies and enemies.  From all that has been determined the "Russian meddling" was minimal and did not favor one candidate over another.  It was intended to sow discord and that they were successful in doing. 

 

It seems no government, no institution and no one is innocent of meddling in the affairs of others...myself included. Self examination is in short supply.

[Estrada]

13 minutes ago, Geoffggi said:

Hillary is so full of hate after loosing her election, she should just accept defeat and move on plus keep her nose out of British politics 

At least she can spell losing correctly. The point is that this report on Russian meddling is connected to the Russian meddling in the United States and other European elections. Also can you tell Nigel Farage and Boris Johnson to keep their nose out of United States politics. The Labour Party have had a severe attack on their servers, just as they attacked the Democrats' servers in the last U.S. presidential elections.

[Estrada]

6 minutes ago, Benmart said:

It seems no government, no institution and no one is innocent of meddling in the affairs of others...myself included. Self examination is in short supply.

However, since the U.S. elected themselves the "Leaders of the Free World" and the 'World Police" we are entitled to voice our concerns until they stand down as the Leader of the Free World.

[Chomper Higgot]

46 minutes ago, blazes said:

Crooked Hillary:  just keep your fat ar$e out of other countries' politics.

The subject report is into Russian interference in UK politics.

 

So do you or do you not want to see the report?

 

 

[Boon Mee]

13 hours ago, Puchaiyank said:

When HRC speaks...people listen...and when they quit laughing...they change the channel...????

You win for the best post of this thread, Puchlayank! ???? 

[IAMHERE]

I still can not figure out if Russia (Putin) is for or against Brexit.  

[phantomfiddler]

14 hours ago, Thomas J said:

Boy is that the pot calling the kettle black.  These are just some of the instances that the USA has "meddled" in other peoples politics. 

Obama sent money from USA taxpayers to group in Israel to defeat Netanyahu

Obama bombed Lybia to oust  maammar gaddafi 
Bush sent troops to remove Saddam Hussein and installed U.S. backed government

Bush sent troops to Afghanistan and installed Hami Karzi

The U.S. installed Mohammad Reza Shah Pahlavi, into power as head of Iran
The US installed Manuel Noriega into power in Panama
The U.S. installed Ngo Dinh Diem as president of South Vietnam 
The US backed Syngman Rhee as president of South Korea
The USA attempted a failed coup on Fidel Castro

Every major power spies on and interferes in the political process of both its allies and enemies.  From all that has been determined the "Russian meddling" was minimal and did not favor one candidate over another.  It was intended to sow discord and that they were successful in doing. 

 

Going back even further, I would say that breaking every treaty ever made with the native Indians would qualify as "Internal meddling in Indian politics". This is what Americans do !

[Baerboxer]

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The subject report is into Russian interference in UK politics.

 

So do you or do you not want to see the report?

 

 

 

Yes.

 

But I don't want to see some bitter old corrupt hag from America openly interfering in British Politics whilst whining on about how wrong it is to interfere in American politics.

 

Hypocrisy of the left, as usual. Always "do as we say, not as we do". 

[Baerboxer]

45 minutes ago, IAMHERE said:

I still can not figure out if Russia (Putin) is for or against Brexit.  

 

Fairly obviously against. Putin congratulated the British People on their wise choice after the referendum. He doesn't want a strong EU, with the French, UK and Germany at the heart. Divide and conquer. He will continue spread Russian influence in Eastern Europe. A weaker EU and seemingly less strong NATO help him in that. 

Russia has more control over Germany because of the supply of gas than people think. Without the UK and USA commitments Germany would be very vulnerable militarily too; albeit that's more of a threat than actual these days. Not sure Germany would want to rely on the French! That's why Germany wants a EU Army.

 

Turkey, Erdogan, is bitter because the EU never let them in. They have a large military and are NATO members. But they are becoming very close militarily with Russia. Would you trust them? And they are at the back door.

 

Since the referendum result and chaos in the UK; the French presidential elections and Macron v Gillets Jeunnes; Germany's economic issues; the election of Trump: things have looked up for Putin.

 

 

[bert bloggs]

who cares a jot what that old bag says? ,only fools like her .