Popular Post snoop1130 Posted November 26, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 26, 2019 'Poison' of anti-Semitism has taken root in UK's Labour - Chief Rabbi By Kylie MacLellan FILE PHOTO: Britain's Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby, listens to the Chief Rabbi, Ephraim Mirvis speak to the media following a recent attack in Westminster, London, Britain March 24, 2017. REUTERS/Darren Staples/File Photo LONDON (Reuters) - The poison of anti-Semitism “sanctioned from the top” has taken root in Britain’s opposition Labour Party, Chief Rabbi Ephraim Mirvis said in an article published on Monday, warning the “soul of our nation is at stake” in next month’s election. Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn, a veteran campaigner for Palestinian rights, has been dogged by criticism from members, lawmakers and Jewish leaders that he has failed to tackle anti-Semitism in the party despite a promise to do so. “The question I am now most frequently asked is: What will become of Jews and Judaism in Britain if the Labour Party forms the next government? This anxiety is justified,” Mirvis, Chief Rabbi of the United Hebrew Congregations of the Commonwealth, wrote in an article for Tuesday’s edition of the Times newspaper. He said the response of the party’s leadership as their supporters drove lawmakers, members and staff out of the party for challenging anti-Jewish racism had been “utterly inadequate” and claims the party was doing everything it could and had investigated every case were “mendacious fiction”. “It is a failure to see this as a human problem rather than a political one. It is a failure of culture. It is a failure of leadership. A new poison – sanctioned from the top – has taken root in the Labour Party,” he wrote. A spokesman for Labour, who are trailing Prime Minister Boris Johnson’s Conservatives in the polls ahead of the Dec. 12 election, said Corbyn was a lifelong campaigner against anti-Semitism. “A Labour government will guarantee the security of the Jewish community, defend and support the Jewish way of life, and combat rising anti-Semitism in our country and across Europe,” the spokesman said. “We are taking robust action to root out anti-Semitism in the party, with swift suspensions, processes for rapid expulsions and an education programme for members,” he said. Mirvis said that, while convention dictates that the chief rabbi stays away from party politics, challenging racism went beyond politics. “How complicit in prejudice would a leader of Her Majesty’s opposition have to be to be considered unfit for office? Would associations with those who have incited hatred against Jews be enough? Would describing as ‘friends’ those who endorse the murder of Jews be enough? It seems not,” he said. “When December 12 arrives, I ask every person to vote with their conscience. Be in no doubt, the very soul of our nation is at stake.” -- © Copyright Reuters 2019-11-26 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info 1 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post teacherofwoe Posted November 26, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 26, 2019 We'll we've heard your opinion, now back it up please. 12 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted November 26, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 26, 2019 ‘Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn, a veteran campaigner for Palestinian rights’. Nuff said. 12 2 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post vogie Posted November 26, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 26, 2019 (edited) When members or devotees of the Labour Party cannot or will not admit that the Labour Party has antisemetic problems, they become part of the problem. Edited November 26, 2019 by vogie 9 4 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Number 6 Posted November 26, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 26, 2019 (edited) Guess he'll be voting for Boris / Conservatives then. No? Just more complaining I suspect. Edited November 26, 2019 by Number 6 5 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Number 6 Posted November 26, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 26, 2019 54 minutes ago, snoop1130 said: incited hatred against Jews And how precisely did that occur? 55 minutes ago, snoop1130 said: our nation is at stake No it's not. Not in the least. 14 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post torturedsole Posted November 26, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 26, 2019 Labour are finished in their present form so no worries there. 8 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OneMoreFarang Posted November 26, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 26, 2019 I saw a couple of times accusations that Labor politicians are anti-Semites. But for whatever reason I never saw what these politicians are supposed to have done? Is it so bad that it can't be repeated? Or is it so harmless that nobody else noticed? Where are a couple of samples what they have done? I would really like to make up my mind according to facts. 9 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post torturedsole Posted November 26, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 26, 2019 1 minute ago, OneMoreFarang said: There are a couple of samples what they have done? I would really like to make up my mind according to facts. I can tell you're not English. Not a derogatory response either. 4 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rayluttman Posted November 26, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 26, 2019 38 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: ‘Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn, a veteran campaigner for Palestinian rights’. Nuff said. Is there anything wrong with that? someone has to speak up for the poor bastards. 23 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted November 26, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 26, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, rayluttman said: Is there anything wrong with that? someone has to speak up for the poor bastards. I agree. But don’t kid yourself, Israel and the pro-Israel lobby within the UK would rather the UK does not have a PM with a record of campaigning for Palestinian rights. Edited November 26, 2019 by Chomper Higgot 12 2 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post owl sees all Posted November 26, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 26, 2019 I've been a vice chair in a London constituency, and have campaigned alongside Ken L and George G. Although i've been in Thailand for some years now I still keep myself informed. I'm a fully paid-up Labour member. The amount of anti-Jewish occurrences in my time I could count on one hand. 10 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marqus12 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 "Resolution No. 672 referred to as the "Combating European Anti-Semitism Act of 2017" was submitted to Congress in 2017. In December 2018 it was approved by the Senate and on January 14. this year. signed by Donald Trump. - according to the US Congress website." Sinking Empire and methods of modern warfare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Enoon Posted November 26, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 26, 2019 (edited) 39 minutes ago, torturedsole said: I can tell you're not English. Not a derogatory response either. Yes, "Johnny Foreigner", born anglophone or otherwise, tends to talk a lot more sense, and seek more rational arguments (about British Socio-Political issues) than do many, but by no means all, of the English who contribute to these pages. I say English because most of the TVF "Brits" are English. The prevalence of the "many", in Thailand, is what puts me in dread of being introduced to a fellow Englishman while I am there. I do hope this has offended the correct people. Edited November 26, 2019 by Enoon 4 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post vogie Posted November 26, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 26, 2019 4 minutes ago, owl sees all said: I've been a vice chair in a London constituency, and have campaigned alongside Ken L and George G. Although i've been in Thailand for some years now I still keep myself informed. I'm a fully paid-up Labour member. The amount of anti-Jewish occurrences in my time I could count on one hand. 9 Labour MPs have left the Labour Party due to the way Corbyn is handling the antisemetic problem, I have never known so many MPs and ex Labour MPs and Labour peers telling the voters to vote Tory, it's never happened before. At the end of the day Corbyn is the leader and with him the buck stops, he is to blame whether directly or indirectly. Something very bad is happening to the Labour Party, it will take it a very long time to get back on track, if ever. Here is lifelong Labour supporter and Jew Maureen Lipman giving her interpretation of what Labour has turned in to. twitter_20191122_151459.mp4 2 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Liverpudlian Posted November 26, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 26, 2019 Religion is as bad as Mcdonalds get em while there young and fill them full of SH*TE 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyril sneer Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 37 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said: I saw a couple of times accusations that Labor politicians are anti-Semites. In UK, Labour are basically pro-Islam/ISIS, which secondly makes them pro-palestine, meaning they must be anti-semite This is comparible to USA, where democrats are pro-Islam/ISIS, which secondly makes them pro-climate change 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardColeman Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 With the amount they want to borrow reaching 82 billion - before the 50 billion for the waspi women - it's less anti-semitism and more anti-realism. Mind you, maybe I should look at it another way. One day I will return to the UK. In my old age according to Corbyn I'll have a great pension, great hospitals and free broadband. On the downside my kids will be paying 50% Income tax 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post canthai55 Posted November 26, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 26, 2019 Same Old Same Old Anyone who opposes what Israel has done, is doing, and will continue to do to the Palestinians is IMMEDIATELY branded an Anti Semite Keep making these baseless, ignorant remarks and you will not see a decrease in Antisemitism but an increase as more and more people see for themselves what the agenda is. We Can Do no Wrong ! End of ... 8 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canthai55 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 1 minute ago, RichardColeman said: On the downside my kids will be paying 50% Income tax I pay in Canada - as a single man - 42% right off the top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted November 26, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 26, 2019 22 minutes ago, vogie said: 9 Labour MPs have left the Labour Party due to the way Corbyn is handling the antisemetic problem, I have never known so many MPs and ex Labour MPs and Labour peers telling the voters to vote Tory, it's never happened before. At the end of the day Corbyn is the leader and with him the buck stops, he is to blame whether directly or indirectly. Something very bad is happening to the Labour Party, it will take it a very long time to get back on track, if ever. Here is lifelong Labour supporter and Jew Maureen Lipman giving her interpretation of what Labour has turned in to. twitter_20191122_151459.mp4 What people say while they flounce and the real reason for their departure need not be one and the same. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post owl sees all Posted November 26, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 26, 2019 17 minutes ago, vogie said: 9 Labour MPs have left the Labour Party due to the way Corbyn is handling the antisemetic problem, I have never known so many MPs and ex Labour MPs and Labour peers telling the voters to vote Tory, it's never happened before. At the end of the day Corbyn is the leader and with him the buck stops, he is to blame whether directly or indirectly. Something very bad is happening to the Labour Party, it will take it a very long time to get back on track, if ever. Here is lifelong Labour supporter and Jew Maureen Lipman giving her interpretation of what Labour has turned in to. twitter_20191122_151459.mp4 You are right when you say something very bad has happened to the Labour Party; the shift away from the blue collar workers into the middle ground. Hopefully Jeremy can change this, but not without ditching the Blairites, and returning to grass roots. It's not anti-Jewish to dislike the actions of Israel, or to disagree with one of the many pro-Israel groups. Chris Williamson was treated disgracefully by the party, as was Ken Livingstone before him. The real enemies of the Labour party within, are the likes of Maggie Hodge (Dame M H) and it's lack of accountability at NE level. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post vogie Posted November 26, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 26, 2019 Labour are filmed giving speeches on antisemitism and deny even saying it, they are out and out liars. "Denying the truth doesn't change the facts" twitter_20191104_075009.mp4 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayaout Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 7 minutes ago, canthai55 said: I pay in Canada - as a single man - 42% right off the top Now I remember why I never went back. Oh! And the winter hey! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torturedsole Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 MBE for Diane Abbott for services to mathematics should even it out once the Tories trounce Labour in a few weeks. It's only fair. Not forgetting a Nobel Peace Prize to Jezza for services to peace and universal understanding. Not. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CGW Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 11 minutes ago, canthai55 said: Anyone who opposes what Israel has done, is doing, and will continue to do to the Palestinians is IMMEDIATELY branded an Anti Semite They could always make "denial" unlawful? or have they already done that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayaout Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, CGW said: They could always make "denial" unlawful? or have they already done that! They did in France. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toast1 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 (edited) >Anyone who opposes what Israel has done, is doing, and will continue to do to the Palestinians is IMMEDIATELY branded an Anti Semite >They could always make "denial" unlawful? or have they already done that! This is an example of the hatred and evil that has become so popular lately. Holoocaust denial (which is what the poster means when he uses a stupid code word) is not unlawful, it is only a matter for the police when it promotes racial hatred. Israel is and has always been opposed, and people have not been IMMEDIATELY branded an anti Semite. The Labour party has been very critical of Israel without accusations of race hate. This has only been a problem since Mr Corybn took over. Edited November 26, 2019 by toast1 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bristolboy Posted November 26, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 26, 2019 24 minutes ago, RichardColeman said: With the amount they want to borrow reaching 82 billion - before the 50 billion for the waspi women - it's less anti-semitism and more anti-realism. Mind you, maybe I should look at it another way. One day I will return to the UK. In my old age according to Corbyn I'll have a great pension, great hospitals and free broadband. On the downside my kids will be paying 50% Income tax If the money is used the way it is in Denmark where the tax rate is 55%, most britons will be a lot better off. 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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