webfact Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 UK PM Johnson's lead over Labour narrows one point to 11 points - YouGov poll British Prime Minister Boris Johnson launches the Conservative Party Scottish Manifesto in North Queensferry, Scotland, Britain November 26, 2019. Dan Kitwood/Pool via REUTERS LONDON (Reuters) - Prime Minister Boris Johnson's Conservative Party holds an 11 point lead over the opposition Labour Party, down one point, ahead of Britain's Dec. 12 election, according to an opinion poll published by YouGov for The Times and Sky News on Tuesday. Support for the Conservatives stood at 43%, up one point from YouGov's previous poll published on Saturday, while Labour was up 2 points at 32%. The poll was the third in a row to show a narrowing of the Conservatives' lead over Labour. A Kantar poll earlier on Tuesday also showed an 11 point lead, down seven, while one by ICM on Monday showed a 7 point lead, down three. YouGov's poll put support for the pro-European Union Liberal Democrats on 13%, down 3 points. The Brexit Party was on 4%, up one point. YouGov interviewed 1,678 people on Nov. 25 and 26. (Reporting by James Davey; editing by Stephen Addison) -- © Copyright Reuters 2019-11-27 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nkg Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 Here are the predicted results according to Oddschecker yesterday: https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1209075/Election-results-map-2019-oddschecker-majority-general-election Things are not looking good for Labour. Corbyn's car-crash interview with Andrew Neil on the BBC last night certainly can't have helped. https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/jeremy-corbyn-interview-andrew-neil-general-election-labour-antisemitism-a9219226.html https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/nov/27/what-the-papers-say-about-jeremy-corbyns-interview-with-andrew-neil 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post puck2 Posted November 27, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 27, 2019 (edited) The problem in this election, no capable leader in both parties. The British have to choose between the devil and the deep blue sea. Edited November 27, 2019 by puck2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krataiboy Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 1 hour ago, puck2 said: The problem in this election, no capable leader in both parties. The British have to choose between the devil and the deep blue sea. More like the devil (Boris is clearly the horny one) and the deep RED sea. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Orton Rd Posted November 27, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 27, 2019 The communist labour party are so desperate with give a ways for votes they might as well just hand out cash at the polling stations, oh that would have to be their own money though not other people's so no chance. They are involved in vote rigging so probably would be bribing people if it was not illegal as well 3 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jesimps Posted November 27, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 27, 2019 Can't believe that 32% of my countrymen would vote for a party led by a treacherous, anti-semitic, commie. 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JonnyF Posted November 27, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 27, 2019 16 minutes ago, jesimps said: Can't believe that 32% of my countrymen would vote for a party led by a treacherous, anti-semitic, commie. London is very densely populated. The poor Londoners want the free handouts on offer and the better off Londoners are generally Facebook posting, virtue signalling, Champagne Socialists. It skews the figures. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thingamabob Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 I still reckon there will likely be another hung parliament. I hope I'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blazes Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 7 hours ago, JonnyF said: London is very densely populated. The poor Londoners want the free handouts on offer and the better off Londoners are generally Facebook posting, virtue signalling, Champagne Socialists. It skews the figures. Yes, emphasis on dense for sure.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatsupdoc Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 7 hours ago, Thingamabob said: I still reckon there will likely be another hung parliament. I hope I'm wrong. I would guess that most of Europe has coalition governments. Seems to work a lot better than the current mess in the UK..... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Garvie Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 8 hours ago, JonnyF said: London is very densely populated. The poor Londoners want the free handouts on offer and the better off Londoners are generally Facebook posting, virtue signalling, Champagne Socialists. It skews the figures. It is a long time ago since I lived in London, but in 5 years I saw most parts of it. From West Kensington, to Bromley, to Edgeware road, and Battersea and many points in between, I never saw a champagne swigging socialist. The denizens of Notting Hill gate certainly looked down on champagne toff-scum of any political persuasion, they had more effective direct routes to Nirvana. I imagine from " Facebook posting, virtue signalling" you imply that such folk are to be despised unlike TV posting, self righteousness signalling folk! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nigel Garvie Posted November 27, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 27, 2019 7 hours ago, Thingamabob said: I still reckon there will likely be another hung parliament. I hope I'm wrong. The danger is that Labour are so up themselves, that they won't stand aside in seats that they have no chance of winning, but the Lib/dems or Greens might take from the Tories. Labour could then lose the chance of power as a minority government through their own bloody mindedness. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blazes Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 (edited) As of today, looking good for Bojo!! Corbyn to be creamed. Greens no advance. Ditto Lib Dems. A highly satisfactory result for all Brexiteers if this holds. https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2019/11/27/yougov-mrp-conservatives-359-labour-211-snp-43-ld- Edited November 27, 2019 by blazes 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estrada Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 17 hours ago, puck2 said: The problem in this election, no capable leader in both parties. The British have to choose between the devil and the deep blue sea. I think all the parties have no good leader. I am a life long liberal but Ken Clarke, the father of the house, is the only capable leader that I would vote for. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OJAS Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 2 hours ago, Estrada said: I think all the parties have no good leader. Including the SNP, whose leader launched her party's manifesto yesterday with a pledge to "escape Brexit and put Scotland's future in Scotland's hands". Which pledge, should IMHO more accurately read "escape Brexit and put Scotland's future in Brussels' hands". https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-50563934 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post samran Posted November 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 28, 2019 9 hours ago, Nigel Garvie said: It is a long time ago since I lived in London, but in 5 years I saw most parts of it. From West Kensington, to Bromley, to Edgeware road, and Battersea and many points in between, I never saw a champagne swigging socialist. The denizens of Notting Hill gate certainly looked down on champagne toff-scum of any political persuasion, they had more effective direct routes to Nirvana. I imagine from " Facebook posting, virtue signalling" you imply that such folk are to be despised unlike TV posting, self righteousness signalling folk! For these blokes, anti-antisemitism is abhorrent, but muslim bashing is totally fine. You'd think they both find them equally disgusting. Go figure. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drh1010 Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Good. Corbyn would be a disaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuamRudy Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, OJAS said: Including the SNP, whose leader launched her party's manifesto yesterday with a pledge to "escape Brexit and put Scotland's future in Scotland's hands". Scots overwhelmingly rejected Brexit. Hopefully will overwhelmingly reject the Nasty Party next month. 8 minutes ago, OJAS said: Which pledge, should IMHO more accurately read "escape Brexit and put Scotland's future in Brussels' hands". https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-50563934 With all due respect, unless you are Scottish or live in Scotland, your opinion, whether humbly offered or not, is irrelevant. If you are Scottish or live in Scotland, you should respect the professed will of the Scottish people, which is to remain in or rejoin the EU. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 21 hours ago, puck2 said: The problem in this election, no capable leader in both parties. The British have to choose between the devil and the deep blue sea. Yep. We thought the choice was <deleted>-poor in 2017! Now it's even worse! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 18 hours ago, Thingamabob said: I still reckon there will likely be another hung parliament. I hope I'm wrong. I can tie the hangman's knot and am available! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 11 hours ago, whatsupdoc said: I would guess that most of Europe has coalition governments. Seems to work a lot better than the current mess in the UK..... If you think the Italian economy works well, then sure! Or Belgium that had to run with no government - lucky sods, for a while. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Baerboxer Posted November 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 28, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, RuamRudy said: Scots overwhelmingly rejected Brexit. Hopefully will overwhelmingly reject the Nasty Party next month. With all due respect, unless you are Scottish or live in Scotland, your opinion, whether humbly offered or not, is irrelevant. If you are Scottish or live in Scotland, you should respect the professed will of the Scottish people, which is to remain in or rejoin the EU. How absolutely arrogant, but in keeping with the small mindedness of nationalists. The country is the UK, the nationality British. Any changes to that must be decided on by the whole voting population not by some small minority within a minority. Although as they are national socialists their lack of liking for democracy is understandable. Edited November 28, 2019 by Baerboxer 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puck2 Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 After the last US election I thought nearly half of the US voters are stupid. Guess what I think about the Brits when reading the headline .... ? It's aching in my heart, because I like the Brits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayboy Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Fun times at Eton with Abhisit and Boris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RuamRudy Posted November 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 28, 2019 53 minutes ago, Baerboxer said: How absolutely arrogant, but in keeping with the small mindedness of nationalists. The country is the UK, the nationality British. Any changes to that must be decided on by the whole voting population not by some small minority within a minority. Although as they are national socialists their lack of liking for democracy is understandable. Can you ever reply to a post with which you disagree without feeling the need to hurl insults, or do you think that your insults compensate for your lack of substance? 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammieuk1 Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 The dead would be in the lead against whispering Jerry ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayboy Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, RuamRudy said: Can you ever reply to a post with which you disagree without feeling the need to hurl insults, or do you think that your insults compensate for your lack of substance? There's a serious point lurking here, namely the Midlothian or West Lothian Question. This is the question of why Scottish MPs in the House of Commons should be allowed to vote on matters solely relating to England while English MPs have no such right on matters solely relating to Scotland. It's not a new question.It was raised in the nineteenth century in relation to discussions on Irish Home Rule. In the current age it feeds into a more aggressive not always decorous sense of English nationalism.The Tories know this and play on the image of a Corbyn led government reliant on Nicola Sturgeon - they know the English electorate detest this prospect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuamRudy Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, jayboy said: There's a serious point lurking here, namely the Midlothian or West Lothian Question. This is the question of why Scottish MPs in the House of Commons should be allowed to vote on matters solely relating to England while English MPs have no such right on matters solely relating to Scotland. It's not a new question.It was raised in the nineteenth century in relation to discussions on Irish Home Rule. In the current age it feeds into a more aggressive not always decorous sense of English nationalism.The Tories know this and play on the image of a Corbyn led government reliant on Nicola Sturgeon - they know the English electorate detest this prospect. I believe that one of the major problems is the Barnett formula and how there are genuinely few issues which go through parliament which affect England alone - the BF takes account of spending in England so even something which, at first sight, may appear to be wholly related to England can impact the devolved nations through knock-on changes in their budgets. Other than that, I agree with Tam Dalyell's premise and fully understand the objections that the English electorate might have in its regard. EVEL is a somewhat crude attempt to remedy this, but it is apparently working better than some had predicted although there is still room for improvement. "The authors... argue that the current version of EVEL has avoided many of the problems predicted by its critics. However, they recommend changes to facilitate greater expression of England’s voice..." Although increasingly unlikely, it would have been interesting if Jo Swinson's ascension had not been so short lived, and she actually made it to No. 10. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 3 hours ago, samran said: For these blokes, anti-antisemitism is abhorrent, but muslim bashing is totally fine. You'd think they both find them equally disgusting. Go figure. Who said Muslim bashing is fine? Oh that's right, nobody. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orton Rd Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, samran said: For these blokes, anti-antisemitism is abhorrent, but muslim bashing is totally fine. You'd think they both find them equally disgusting. Go figure. Anti semitism is not fine nor is anti Muslim, but there is nothing wrong with bashing Judaism and especially not repellent Islam. People are not the same as the ideologies they follow. Edited November 28, 2019 by Orton Rd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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