Democrats zoom in on Trump impeachment charges this week

[webfact]

Democrats zoom in on Trump impeachment charges this week

By Doina Chiacu and David Morgan

 

U.S. House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerrold Nadler (D-NY) speaks at a news conference ahead of a vote on the Voting Rights Advancement Act, on Capitol Hill in Washington, U.S., December 6, 2019. REUTERS/Loren Elliott

 

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Democratic lawmakers could vote this week on articles of impeachment against President Donald Trump, the House Judiciary Committee chairman said on Sunday as lawmakers sharpened their focus on charges of wrongdoing in his dealings with Ukraine.

 

U.S. Representative Jerrold Nadler said the panel will not decide on the specific articles until after a hearing on Monday to consider evidence gathered by the House Intelligence Committee in its investigation of the Republican leader.

 

"There are possible drafts that various people are writing," Nadler told CNN's "State of the Union." "But the fact is we're not going to make any decision as to how broad the articles should be - as to what they contain, what the wording is - until after the hearing tomorrow."

 

The Democratic-led House of Representatives' impeachment inquiry focuses on Trump's request that Ukraine investigate former Vice President Joe Biden, a leading contender for the Democratic nomination to face Trump in the November 2020 election.

 

Nadler told NBC's "Meet the Press" that articles of impeachment would be brought to the panel later in the week. Asked on CNN if lawmakers could vote this week, he said, "It's possible."

 

The impeachment probe has focused on a July 25 telephone call in which Trump asked Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy to open an investigation into Biden and his son Hunter, and into a discredited theory promoted by Trump and his allies that Ukraine, not Russia, meddled in the 2016 election.

 

Trump denies wrongdoing and says the impeachment inquiry is a politically motivated witchhunt aimed at ousting him.

 

Democrats cite "overwhelming" evidence that Trump put his personal interests above those of the country in seeking foreign help to win the November 2020 election.

 

"I think the case we have, if presented to a jury, would be a guilty verdict in about three minutes flat," Nadler said.

 

MUELLER PART OF IMPEACHMENT CHARGES?

Democratic lawmakers on Sunday played down the possibility of basing one of the articles of impeachment on Special Counsel Robert Mueller's report on Russian election interference in 2016. That report cited 10 incidents in which Trump sought to hinder the investigation, but did not draw conclusions on whether Trump obstructed justice.

 

The best strategy, intelligence panel Chairman Adam Schiff told CBS' "Face the Nation," is to pick the charges supported by "the strongest and most overwhelming evidence and not try to charge everything, even if you could charge other things."

 

"Nobody wants to put the kitchen sink into these articles," added Pramila Jayapal, a House Judiciary Democrat, in an interview with Reuters. "We need to be focused; we need to be clear. We need to present the best possible case."

 

House Democrats who must appeal to skeptical independent voters to get re-elected have expressed misgivings about supporting a charge of obstruction of justice based on Mueller.

 

Judiciary Committee Democrats have said they could instead use Mueller's findings to demonstrate a repeated pattern of misconduct by Trump to support formal charges of abuse of power and obstruction of Congress.

 

"It's part of a pattern" that poses a threat to the integrity of the November 2020 election, Nadler said.

 

Judiciary Committee Democrats worked through the weekend poring over information from the Intelligence Committee and constitutional law scholars who testified on Wednesday.

 

Republicans are demanding that Nadler postpone Monday's hearing to give them time to review the material.

 

"It is impossible for Judiciary members to sift through thousands and thousands of pages in any meaningful way in a matter of hours," the committee's top Republican, Representative Doug Collins, told Nadler in a weekend letter.

 

Nadler dismissed the contention, saying that the documents presented on Saturday were basically the intelligence committee report released earlier in the week to both Republicans and Democrats.

 

Republican Matt Gaetz, a Trump supporter on the Judiciary Committee, told ABC the president's impeachment was "inevitable" as Republicans began to emphasize the vote margin as the thing to watch. They will not have any defectors, Republican lawmakers said on Sunday, but Democrats will be under increasing pressure to vote against impeachment.

 

(Reporting by Doina Chiacu, David Morgan; Additional reporting by Brad Heath; Editing by Soyoung Kim and Lisa Shumaker)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2019-12-09

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[TopDeadSenter]

32 minutes ago, webfact said:

Chairman Adam Schiff told CBS' "Face the Nation," is to pick the charges supported by "the strongest and most overwhelming evidence and not try to charge everything, even if you could charge other things."

Does anyone know how Adam Schiff is still walking around a free man after his appalling security breeches?

 In case anyone is unaware he released what he claimed were private phone records for his rival Devin Nunes and private citizen and journalist John Solomon. Bad enough? But even worse now is it seems his report was wrong, and that it may also be completely fake. Just shocking.

 It looks about the worst criminal act I've seen in the whole fiasco. Certainly way worse than anything that's been leveled at Trump. At least he guarantees he will be called up as a witness in the Senate trial if this sage ever gets that far.

 Lock Him Up.

[metisdead]

A trolling deflection post has been removed. 

[Tug]

You guys sound more desperate by the minute lol over half the country want him removed that’s not good no matter what the outcome of the trial 

[alanrchase]

1 hour ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Does anyone know how Adam Schiff is still walking around a free man after his appalling security breeches?

 In case anyone is unaware he released what he claimed were private phone records for his rival Devin Nunes and private citizen and journalist John Solomon. Bad enough? But even worse now is it seems his report was wrong, and that it may also be completely fake. Just shocking.

 It looks about the worst criminal act I've seen in the whole fiasco. Certainly way worse than anything that's been leveled at Trump. At least he guarantees he will be called up as a witness in the Senate trial if this sage ever gets that far.

 Lock Him Up.

Schiff did not release Nunes phone records, he released the phone records of Lev Parnas.

[Scott]

Troll posts and replies removed.  

 

[Sujo]

1 hour ago, alanrchase said:

Schiff did not release Nunes phone records, he released the phone records of Lev Parnas.

Facts stump them. Stop it.

[Tippaporn]

3 hours ago, alanrchase said:

  

4 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Does anyone know how Adam Schiff is still walking around a free man after his appalling security breeches?

 In case anyone is unaware he released what he claimed were private phone records for his rival Devin Nunes and private citizen and journalist John Solomon. Bad enough? But even worse now is it seems his report was wrong, and that it may also be completely fake. Just shocking.

 It looks about the worst criminal act I've seen in the whole fiasco. Certainly way worse than anything that's been leveled at Trump. At least he guarantees he will be called up as a witness in the Senate trial if this sage ever gets that far.

 Lock Him Up.

 

Schiff did not release Nunes phone records, he released the phone records of Lev Parnas.

Disinformation.  Nunes states in this interview that Schiff subpoenaed his call records.  Nunes is in the process of putting a lawsuit together.  Don't think it would be possible to file a lawsuit claiming you were subpoenaed when you weren't.

 

 

Back to topic.

 

I'm eagerly awaiting the BS list of imaginary impeachment charges Nadler and the Dems come up with.  Should make for excellent joke fodder.

[bristolboy]

1 minute ago, Tippaporn said:

Disinformation.  Nunes states in this interview that Schiff subpoenaed his call records.  Nunes is in the process of putting a lawsuit together.  Don't think it would be possible to file a lawsuit claiming you were subpoenaed when you weren't.

 

Nunes has a history of filing nuisance law suits which invariably get dismissed.

[Tippaporn]

13 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

Nunes has a history of filing nuisance law suits which invariably get dismissed.

Your comment doesn't refute that alanrchase's post was disinformation.

[Eric Loh]

16 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

Disinformation.  Nunes states in this interview that Schiff subpoenaed his call records.  Nunes is in the process of putting a lawsuit together.  Don't think it would be possible to file a lawsuit claiming you were subpoenaed when you weren't.

You seriously think Nunes will sue and gamble all the discoveries in court? Come on. Think. 

[Tippaporn]

1 minute ago, Eric Loh said:

You seriously think Nunes will sue and gamble all the discoveries in court? Come on. Think. 

What is Nunes guilty of that he would be afraid would come to light through discovery?

[Laza 45]

5 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Does anyone know how Adam Schiff is still walking around a free man after his appalling security breeches?

 In case anyone is unaware he released what he claimed were private phone records for his rival Devin Nunes and private citizen and journalist John Solomon. Bad enough? But even worse now is it seems his report was wrong, and that it may also be completely fake. Just shocking.

 It looks about the worst criminal act I've seen in the whole fiasco. Certainly way worse than anything that's been leveled at Trump. At least he guarantees he will be called up as a witness in the Senate trial if this sage ever gets that far.

 Lock Him Up.

Absolutely shocking.. it makes Trump's lies, obstruction, bribery & treason pale into insignificance...

[Chomper Higgot]

27 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

Disinformation.  Nunes states in this interview that Schiff subpoenaed his call records.  Nunes is in the process of putting a lawsuit together.  Don't think it would be possible to file a lawsuit claiming you were subpoenaed when you weren't.

 

 

Back to topic.

 

I'm eagerly awaiting the BS list of imaginary impeachment charges Nadler and the Dems come up with.  Should make for excellent joke fodder.

You are putting a lot of faith in Nunes telling the truth in the statements he has made.

 

The same Nunes running to the WH to show documents he had discovered (that were given to him by the WH).

 

And the same Nunes who has some explaining to do on why he spent circa $60K tax payer’s money on a trip to Vienna and the part he himself has played in Trump’s attempt to extort the Ukrainian President.

[Eric Loh]

7 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

What is Nunes guilty of that he would be afraid would come to light through discovery?

Let’s see if he follow through with the lawsuit. My gut feeling is he will not because he is guilty like hell. The court will give the chance for the Dem lawyers to expose more corruption.

[thaibeachlovers]

6 hours ago, webfact said:

"I think the case we have, if presented to a jury, would be a guilty verdict in about three minutes flat," Nadler said.

He wishes it could be presented to a jury, but it's going to the senate. Bad luck Nadler. Try again after the election, if the Dems are still in charge of the house, and that's not a given.

Nothing to fear.

[alanrchase]

36 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

Disinformation.  Nunes states in this interview that Schiff subpoenaed his call records.  Nunes is in the process of putting a lawsuit together.  Don't think it would be possible to file a lawsuit claiming you were subpoenaed when you weren't.

 

 

Back to topic.

 

I'm eagerly awaiting the BS list of imaginary impeachment charges Nadler and the Dems come up with.  Should make for excellent joke fodder.

No disinformation.

 

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.thedailybeast.com/adam-schiff-no-we-didnt-subpoena-john-solomons-phone-records&ved=2ahUKEwiOmIG96KfmAhWkH7cAHSomD3kQFjAHegQIAhAB&usg=AOvVaw0D0BvcVP8pVk_nI-bjdOxE

[Tippaporn]

While the responses to Nunes have been hilarious thus far the topic here is articles of impeachment to be drawn up by Dems this week.  No libs here willing to take a guess as to what the charges will be?  In my opinion the Dems should simply fold now as any list they'll put up will be hilariously debunked by sane people in short order.

[thaibeachlovers]

9 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Let’s see if he follow through with the lawsuit. My gut feeling is he will not because he is guilty like hell. The court will give the chance for the Dem lawyers to expose more corruption.

I claimed up till a few days ago the Dems would not impeach Trump. Hopefully we are both wrong.

[Tippaporn]

3 minutes ago, alanrchase said:

No disinformation.

 

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.thedailybeast.com/adam-schiff-no-we-didnt-subpoena-john-solomons-phone-records&ved=2ahUKEwiOmIG96KfmAhWkH7cAHSomD3kQFjAHegQIAhAB&usg=AOvVaw0D0BvcVP8pVk_nI-bjdOxE

Somebody is lying.  I would bet it's the guy who claims he doesn't know who the whistle blower is.

[Mavideol]

24 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

What is Nunes guilty of that he would be afraid would come to light through discovery?

you and lot of other would be surprised, if nothing to hide, let the records be posted, same as the other guy trying to fight his taxes records, he also claims that he has nothing to hide... BS and BS

[Tippaporn]

1 minute ago, Mavideol said:

you and lot of other would be surprised, if nothing to hide, let the records be posted, same as the other guy trying to fight his taxes records, he also claims that he has nothing to hide... BS and BS

you and lot of other would be surprised, . . . 

 

Do you have any inside information?

[Mavideol]

1 minute ago, Tippaporn said:

you and lot of other would be surprised, . . . 

 

Do you have any inside information?

sure... "time will tell or wait and see"  that's the best inside info one can get 555