Action needed now to save "filthy, dangerous, rip-off, vice ridden" Pattaya, says watchdog

[KC 71]

48 minutes ago, sucit said:

I do not think most Thais would care if Pattaya was wiped off the map. They may even rejoice.  

 

 

The Thai People don’t call it ‘Crazy Town’ for nothing !

[Rimmer]

Some off topic and troll posts removed

[Bugsy777]

The baht buses are great transport, and cheap. The ladyboys can play pool with you, drink with you, funny as f***. Sure, they try and get a little more but if you're silly enough, you deserve it. Whenever it's time to move on I just politely explain that, yes they look beautiful, but I'm into girls. No drama, ever. There's lots of scams but I guarantee that more money has gone to the sick buffalo than was ever scammed in the bars. I love Pattaya, seedy as it is. But, yeah, it's now so bloody expensive. They're killing the golden goose.

[DefaultName]

As to prostitutes, I haven't seen any today.  Mind you, I haven't left my condo yet.  ????

 

[Just Weird]

5 hours ago, johng said:

Two things,   first  there is no prostitution in Pattaya according to officialdom

"...first  there is no prostitution in Pattaya according to officialdom".

You know, no official has ever said that...unless you can show the quote, of course.

[Just Weird]

5 hours ago, Rookiescot said:

Prostitutes in Pattaya?

But thats illegal in Thailand.

Being a prostitute is not illegal in Thailand.

[Captain 776]

There is only ne way.

Phase 1:

Completely demolish every building from Second Rd to the beach.

Install all ne drainage and a proper sewer system

Put all utilities underground.

Completely rebuild EVERYTHING underground, then all new buildings:

Phase 2:

Do same from Second Rd to Sukhumvit.

 

Anything short of that is putting lipstick on a pig........so to speak........lolol

[androokery]

Yes, Pattaya may be a little dirty, it's not entirely safe and you may be the victim of a rip-off - but it's just about the most honest place in Thailand. 

[ttrd]

5 hours ago, Pattaya46 said:

No idea who is this "Pattaya Watchdog" but looks like someone who clearly doesn't like Pattaya and tries to make its image far worse than reality !

Most the points he states are just BS ! 

RE - …. looks like someone who clearly doesn't like Pattaya and tries to make its image far worse then in reality !

 

* That's a real challenge as the reality is far worse than most can imagine …  

[Captain 776]

5 hours ago, RotBenz8888 said:

There are a huge number  of beaches in Thailand and around the world, why pick Pattaya? Because of the sexy girls. Take away that, and Pattaya is nothing. Stick to what you're good at.

Absolutely.

There is ZERO draw to Pattaya if bars n girls removed.

 

If I am going to the ocean.........ANYWHERE in the world I want a crystal clear clean white sand beach............

[Zack61]

6 hours ago, webfact said:

Not nearly enough had been spent on good public utilities - and when money was spent it was done on the cheap. 

THe trough was empty by the time they got to the spending phase. 

[Dingo1170]

Lol a bit late, the horse has bolted and is escaping to many parts of Thailand. Chiang Mai is now a <deleted>hole, worst pollution in the world for 3months. Nothing changes and yes it's not good value for money Thailand anymore.

[LivinLOS]

6 hours ago, webfact said:

Prostitutes and scary vagrants loitering about everywhere

 

But isnt that why the scary vagrants come ??? 

[Traubert]

53 minutes ago, RichardColeman said:

I imagine a tourist that has never been to Pattaya OR to Thailand previously even considers any of the reason listed above - they have not after all seen it or experienced it for themselves. They are going elsewhere and not coming for to Thailand/Pattaya for A. The Baht, B. the Baht. and C. THE BAHT !

Hang on. So we're talking about a person that is oblivious to Thailand who is then going to look at it and decide that the baht is high compared to what it was 18 months ago............

[Gweiloman]

1 hour ago, Destiny1990 said:

The place went downhill in recent years. Bali Hai park failure and beach road 5 lane highway failure.

Also the farangs left and got replaced by bunch of Indians that didn’t help either.

You left. That’s an improvement. 

[Traubert]

20 minutes ago, Captain 776 said:

There is only ne way.

Phase 1:

Completely demolish every building from Second Rd to the beach.

Install all ne drainage and a proper sewer system

Put all utilities underground.

Completely rebuild EVERYTHING underground, then all new buildings:

Phase 2:

Do same from Second Rd to Sukhumvit.

 

Anything short of that is putting lipstick on a pig........so to speak........lolol

Including the Hilton, the Empress and all those other 4/5 star hotels and resorts along with Central Festival?

 

Nurse!! He's out of bed again.......

[Bruno123]

6 hours ago, Matzzon said:

Just the thought of that they actually let this be, grow and are doing this to inflict pain and suffering on the tourist industry is unfathomable.

 

However, I can sometimes understand the single Thai incidents and many individual Thai citizens actions. That based on the fact of Pattaya as a magnet for criminality and slime of the earth extremely rotten and unwanted foreigner the city seem to attract. If this comment was only based on them, then they could let Pattaya rot and build an unbreakable dome over the city.

 

Ok, as a good thing. I also personally know a bunch of good guys that have settled down in Pattaya, so that does not go for them or anybody else that knows how to behave. it´s just that the city unfortunately seems to attract to much of the wrong people.

 

I'm sure English is not your first language, but...what?

 

What kind of people would be attracted to a place famous for it's loose morals??

 

Do you live in Pattaya? If so, why? Why did your good guy friends choose to settle there? How does one define "know how to behave"?

Does that include taking a girl upstairs discreetly? Is walking with her hand in hand misbehaving?

 

I mean, many people would consider walking around, parading your lady of the night, rather distasteful. Whereas the protagonist may consider that he is acting as a gentleman should.

 

What about the people involved in the business? What kind of people would involve themselves in such a business in the first place? 

 

Pattaya is what it is. Neither one nor the other. It may have a beach, but I would never consider entering the water.

 

When people can no longer make money there, they will move on. For me, this is the real issue. Greed and exploitation.

 

You seem rather too keen to throw stones at others. Often used as a vehicle to distract attention from oneself.

 

Personally, I visit because I have a non-Asian girlfriend who works in a normal job there. 

 

 

 

 

[Nyezhov]

1 minute ago, Bruno123 said:

Personally, I visit because I have a non-Asian girlfriend who works in a normal job there

I got hidden cammed by a news station coming out of a Asian Massage Parlour in Omaha, and thats what I told the press..

[Bruno123]

1 hour ago, Mitkof Island said:

I would . One of the happiest days of my life to see that pit gone.

 

You have a porn star as your avatar...

[CGW]

39 minutes ago, Captain 776 said:

There is ZERO draw to Pattaya if bars n girls removed.

Best tell all the owners of the golf courses then!

[Bruno123]

2 hours ago, hellohello123 said:

Whats the Baht Bus Scam?

 

Still have no idea why some baht buses half full drive past and refuse to pick people up

 

How does that qualify as a scam?

Because the people on-board have chartered the songthaew to take them off the normal route, directly to their destination.

Some songthaew try to seek out this kind of customer, as opposed to acting like a bus. 

 

 

[johng]

57 minutes ago, Just Weird said:

"...first  there is no prostitution in Pattaya according to officialdom".

You know, no official has ever said that...unless you can show the quote, of course.

They have numerous times walked up and down walking street and found no evidence...look it up.

[DUNROAMIN]

I did my last visit to Pattaya earlier this year, come to the conclusion, this place is a dump, the above comments are justified, filthy beaches, bay full of tour boats , you can barely see the ocean, dingy looking streets, over priced to the max, sorry Pattaya, game over, you milked it for too long.

[newnative]

3 hours ago, impulse said:

 

But you'll notice that even the best known casinos in Las Vegas get torn down and rebuilt when they get too old and decrepit.  Something that should have happened decades ago to a lot of Pattaya.  But they refuse to re-invest in the resource.

 

     Well, some rebuilding is being done.  A huge swatch of 'old and decrepit' was torn down and Terminal 21 was built.  That, in turn, spurred even more redevelopment, including renovation at Tiffanys, the new Amari addition, Ozo Hotel, Brighton Hotel, Palazzo, and lots of remodeling and upgrades of smaller establishments in the area.  And, it is ongoing.  Nearby, several very large condo and hotel projects are getting started for upper 3rd Road, including one with Hilton's involvement.  The draw?  Well, one of the projects boast its only 700 meters to T21.  Naklua/Wong Amat is getting quite lively with new boutique hotels, the massive Centre Point 2 announced, and lots of families being drawn to that area of Pattaya.

    Meanwhile, the city is finally doing some road improvements, Pattaya Beach has been widened and is being kept clean, and Jomtien is getting a hospital.  Yes, I would still not swim in the ocean but there are some positive things happening.  

 

[baansgr]

6 hours ago, johng said:

Yes the baht buses are fine when you stick to their normal set routes..it can get a bit  rip-offy if you need them to go somewhere out of the norm...not to mention the  "metered Taxis"  that won't use the meter even after all these years of announcements and crackdowns !!!

Grab works well....185 baht, Jomtien to dark side in a car...yet a motocy wants 150

[bkk6060]

1 hour ago, DefaultName said:

As to prostitutes, I haven't seen any today.  Mind you, I haven't left my condo yet.  ????

 

Well, there certainly is no need to leave your condo nowadays.

[baansgr]

The reason Pattaya used to be busy was because of vice...sex, sex and more sex...cheap beer and cheap women 24/7 soddom and gomorrah....thats what people liked and wanted...its now dirty with too many coaches taking chinese on tours and tractors tacking boats for the koh larn day trippers....bring back the good old days, even the high baht would only deter a few sexpats

[baansgr]

6 minutes ago, bkk6060 said:

Well, there certainly is no need to leave your condo nowadays.

Thai friendly, Thai love links, Skout are all hookers....plenty of choice 

[Thian]

6 hours ago, petermik said:

LOS (land of smiles) no.....LOB (land of b**l**it) it is....talk talk no action

Yes since Prayuth is in power NOTHING is improved....even not the lottery tickets or the spaceship monk's arrest, no new buses, no traffic safety improvement...the only good thing is that there are no riots/protests but hey it's time this government starts doing something!

[Thian]

25 minutes ago, newnative said:

    Meanwhile, the city is finally doing some road improvements, Pattaya Beach has been widened and is being kept clean, and Jomtien is getting a hospital.  Yes, I would still not swim in the ocean but there are some positive things happening.  

 

The stoplights at the zebra's on beachroad don't work...the bahtbuses horn nonstop, taxi's don't use meters, it stinks, coconuts hanging above the sidewalk, the wider beach has been washed away, the new Bali Hai pier is crappy, annoying watchvendors who come into restaurants, annoying ladyboys who sexually harass pedestrians, dirty sea, bad air.....need i go on?