Unreliable GPS and faulty brakes blamed after scores injured in bus crash in Nan

[rooster59]

Unreliable GPS and faulty brakes blamed after scores injured in bus crash in Nan

 

 

Fifteen people were injured, one seriously, when a tour bus carrying forty cyclists crashed in Nan province in northern Thailand on Saturday morning.

 

According to Thai media, the bus had travelled from Samut Prakan to complete a cycling trip in Nan’s Pua district. 

However, the GPS system incorrectly directed the bus to Ban Luang district.

 

Realising the error, the driver turned the bus around in a bid to reach Pua district. As the bus was travelling down a steep slope on the way to the correct destination, the driver said the bus suddenly developed brake failure.
 

 

The only way to stop the bus plummeting down the mountainside was to swerve right, the driver said, which forced the bus to skid off the road and into an irrigation ditch.

 

Most of the injured received treatment for minor injuries at the scene. The driver was taken to Nan hospital, where his condition was described as serious.

 

The GPS system revealed the bus had been travelling at 38 km/h at the time of the accident.
 

Source: Chiang Mai News

 

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[Don Mega]

How was the GPS unreliable ?

 

Sound more like user error to me.

[unamazedloso]

Police test the brakes yet? These excuses are not good enough.

Start charging these idiot drivers with negligence or murder in cases that call for it and then and only then will things start to get better.

[RotBenz8888]

 

 

28 minutes ago, rooster59 said:

Unreliable GPS and faulty brakes

Never was a  human error in these cases

[Vacuum]

27 minutes ago, rooster59 said:

The GPS system revealed the bus had been travelling at 38 km/h at the time of the accident.

Yes but the GPS was faulty (according to the article) so the speed could have been much higher.

[MJKT2014]

27 minutes ago, Don Mega said:

How was the GPS unreliable ?

Made by foreigners innit? I wonder how reliable the amulets on the front dash were, not mentioned by the Thai media who were all over this story.

[Assurancetourix]

21 minutes ago, rooster59 said:

the driver said the bus suddenly developed brake failure.

Let's say brain failure ..
When you are a smart bus (or truck) driver, you don't need the brake pedal on a descent, even if it is long ...
Even if you have an automatic gearbox because it can still be used manually.
The driver still needs to know how the mechanics he has under his ass  work.

and then how did we do when the GPS did not exist?
We were staying at home?

This is surely what this imbecile driver should have done.

 

I wrote it in another article on this forum;
in the 1970s and 1980s, Italian trucks known as millipedes all ran over 100 tonnes with engines rarely exceeding 250 horsepower;
they climbed the mountain passes first small  and descended in the same way;

gearboxes with mechanical or electrical relays something that seems unknown to me in Thailand like the Telma electromagnetic retarder

always first small and retarder on the exhaust; you never saw their brake lights come on ... because they weren't using their brakes.

 

Driving a coach at the beginning of the 70' I had already that technology on my coach ;

a Chausson 110 horse power ..

Not this one but the same with which I made the Rennes - Fougeres line in France

 

from this site :

https://www.lineoz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=17532&start=350

 

 

https://www.army-technology.com/contractors/armoured/ateco-equipment/pressreleases/telma-retarders/

[worgeordie]

46 minutes ago, rooster59 said:

said the bus suddenly developed brake failure.

A.K.A. brake fade ,going down hill, high gear,foot on brake,

instead of low gear ,no need to put foot on brake,use your

engine to slow down, BUT he was in a hurry.

regards Worgeordie

[sammieuk1]

How to loose your way in a one road to anywhere country and park your bus in the default position????

[Oztruckie]

Just another braindead idiot who shouldn't be behind the steering wheel of a bus,brake failure my ass,brain failure more like it,obviously doesn't know what gearboxes are for or how to use them properly,and if TAT are wondering why there's less tourists coming here,well with all these tourist buses suffering brake failure,they make want to start looking at this problem along with all the other scams.

[RichardColeman]

I see the coach has Lamborghini written on the side - wonder if the driver was driving it like one ? 

[Matzzon]

Of course! Staying awake and looking at the road is totally overrated.

[bino]

I am amazed by how quickly Thai people have become dependent upon GPS to the same extent that they are dependent upon calculators.

Edited January 19, 2020 by bino

[Chazar]

Pah  you'd  really  think with all their  Thai  boffins  constantly inventing things before the rest of the world in a shed in nahkonnowhere they could  come up with an anti brake failsafe invention............maybe a lobotomy is easier?

[edwinchester]

Why use the word 'score' in a headline when you have zero idea of what it actually means?

[Chazar]

2 hours ago, Don Mega said:

How was the GPS unreliable ?

 

Sound more like user error to me.

it  forgot to add the 1 in front of the 38kmh?

[Chazar]

2 hours ago, Assurancetourix said:

When you are a smart bus (or truck) driver, you don't need the brake pedal on a descent, even if it is long ...

follow  any thai  vehicle on a  road with bends and watch the brake  lights , on off  on off  on off etc when in fact all they really need to do is  lift their dumb feet off the gas  pedal for a second............same when  following another  car............ on  off  on off  cant hold a  steady speed to save their  lives......................source , all the dead uns  all over Thailand daily

[losername]

2 hours ago, rooster59 said:

scores injured in bus crash in Nan

This headline followed by:

2 hours ago, rooster59 said:

Fifteen people were injured

Is a poor reflection of English language journalism in Thailand.

[Chazar]

25 minutes ago, Matzzon said:

Of course! Staying awake and looking at the road is totally overrated.

dont worry  no  valuable  lesson will have been learnt by the retard  driving.............you  can also see this  daily  when on a two  lane road a  car starts  to  pull  out on you with no signal then at the last second spots  you and pulls  back in..................second you  pass him he repeats  it again with no  signal....they learn  NOTHING and never  will until death finally  removes them, thankfully

[nausea]

Faulty brakes? I'm no expert but I don't think so. I'm guessing the brakes failed cos he was using them to navigate a steep slope rather than gears. Happens time and time again here, Patong Hill being a prime example. You'd think they'd learn by the experience of others, but I suppose if they keep going with, and accepting, the faulty brakes narrative no-one will learn anything.

[neeray]

Timely reading about faulty GPS. I depend on mine heavily. It is seldom faulty. But today in a western country, twice. The first time, I missed a specialist doctor's appointment. The second time, I knew better and ignored it.

I give the bus some leeway on the faulty GPS but not on the brake issue.

[hotchilli]

4 hours ago, rooster59 said:

Realising the error, the driver turned the bus around in a bid to reach Pua district. As the bus was travelling down a steep slope on the way to the correct destination, the driver said the bus suddenly developed brake failure.

Of course the GPS was at fault ?

[mickyr55]

2 hours ago, nausea said:

Faulty brakes? I'm no expert but I don't think so. I'm guessing the brakes failed cos he was using them to navigate a steep slope rather than gears. Happens time and time again here, Patong Hill being a prime example. You'd think they'd learn by the experience of others, but I suppose if they keep going with, and accepting, the faulty brakes narrative no-one will learn anything.

They never learn because they are never taught. Thailand the land of the blind leading the blind into an ever darkening chasm.

Anyway no problem see accident thank Bhudda not you new amulet at the next set of lights.

[Assurancetourix]

2 hours ago, Chazar said:

it  forgot to add the 1 in front of the 38kmh?

 

Maybe 138 is exaggerated ?  

But with so many serious injuries, he certainly did not enter the ditch at 38 km / h;
certainly much more, and if, in addition, no passenger was fastened to the compulsory seat belt on all scheduled or passenger buses, it certainly aggravated their injuries.

 

On this subject, this morning I was stopped at a red light next to a minibus; as I am on a mountain bike, I can watch what is going on in the vehicles.
I noticed that no passenger had fastened their seat belt; Besides, I also noticed that I did not see a belt in this minibus, which can make it clear that the passengers were not attached ...

[30la]

5 hours ago, rooster59 said:

Unreliable GPS and faulty brakes blamed after scores injured in bus crash in Nan

If you don't know how to use electronics, do as your ancestors did!
The turn of the brakes is back to be responsible for another lousy accident caused by a criminal idiot!

[ratcatcher]

18 minutes ago, Assurancetourix said:

 

Maybe 138 is exaggerated ?  

But with so many serious injuries, he certainly did not enter the ditch at 38 km / h;
certainly much more, and if, in addition, no passenger was fastened to the compulsory seat belt on all scheduled or passenger buses, it certainly aggravated their injuries.

 

On this subject, this morning I was stopped at a red light next to a minibus; as I am on a mountain bike, I can watch what is going on in the vehicles.
I noticed that no passenger had fastened their seat belt; Besides, I also noticed that I did not see a belt in this minibus, which can make it clear that the passengers were not attached ...

As a knowledgeable , experienced bus driver, would you know whether these modern buses are fitted with automatic or manual transmissions? Not that that should make much difference as properly trained, professional drivers know how to use either system when encountering steep downhill slopes.

[trainman34014]

20 minutes ago, Assurancetourix said:

 

Maybe 138 is exaggerated ?  

But with so many serious injuries, he certainly did not enter the ditch at 38 km / h;
certainly much more, and if, in addition, no passenger was fastened to the compulsory seat belt on all scheduled or passenger buses, it certainly aggravated their injuries.

 

On this subject, this morning I was stopped at a red light next to a minibus; as I am on a mountain bike, I can watch what is going on in the vehicles.
I noticed that no passenger had fastened their seat belt; Besides, I also noticed that I did not see a belt in this minibus, which can make it clear that the passengers were not attached ...

Used to travel regularly by Bus in Thailand years ago and on every trip my Wife and Myself were the only ones wearing Seatbelts....Period.  Since those days things have got progressively worse and we just don't use Buses anymore.

 

[Burma Bill]

Unreliable GPS, faulty brakes and "the driver"??? Possibly micro-sleep as it is a long drive from Samut Prakan to Nan - 686 kilometers!!

[villagefarang]

Up here in the north of Thailand you would be surprised how often the GPS lady sends you down the shortest route with no real awareness of the kind of vehicle you’re driving or the conditions of that road. In a car you can easily rectify the situation but in a bus that size you would have a real problem getting yourself out of trouble, being on a narrow road that you didn’t expect to be on. The bus driver had probably never been in that area before  

[Assurancetourix]

2 minutes ago, Burma Bill said:

Unreliable GPS, faulty brakes and "the driver"??? Possibly micro-sleep as it is a long drive from Samut Prakan to Nan - 686 kilometers!!

 

As long as the line and touring trucks and coaches do not have a working digital tachograph and the police trained in this, we will continue to have this type of accident with drivers who drive 48 hours a day (it's a joke but I'm not far from reality, unfortunately) without taking a day off during the year ..