rooster59 Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 Danish man, 30, dies after skydiving accident in Chonburi Image: Naewna A 30 year old Danish man died in a skydiving accident in Chonburi on Saturday. Witnesses said the man went into freefall when his parachute failed to open during the jump near Nong Khor reservoir in Sri Racha. Police and rescue workers were called to the scene just at 12.30pm. The man was taken to Phyathai Sriracha Hospital but was pronounced dead a short time later. Staff from the skydiving company who organised the event said procedure was followed and that the man’s parachute had been properly checked before the jump. Police have launched an investigation into the incident and are working to establish why the man’s parachute failed to open. Source: Naewna -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2020-02-02 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yinn Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 Dangerous sport. Maybe he panic. RIP Stefan 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RotBenz8888 Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 Probably not experienced, did he get proper training/instructions before he jumped? Horrible death. RIP. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post djayz Posted February 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 2, 2020 15 minutes ago, rooster59 said: Staff from the skydiving company who organised the event said procedure was followed and that the man’s parachute had been properly checked before the jump. Call me cynical if you will, but I find these kinds of statements difficult to believe. Could be true of course. I hope so. RIP young Danish man. Too young to die. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post George Bowman Posted February 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 2, 2020 (edited) 33 minutes ago, rooster59 said: and are working to establish why the man’s parachute failed to open. Many years ago I was an Earth Dart for awhile with Uncle Sam. During training the instructors went over all of the possible parachute malfunctions and corrections. At the end of one demonstration, a soldier asked "What should I do if none of the corrections work?" The instructor replied "I don't honestly know the answer to that question, but you will have the rest of your life to figure it out." Edited February 2, 2020 by missoura 4 1 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post roo860 Posted February 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 2, 2020 (edited) As an ex skydiver myself, I've had a few friends killed due to skydiving incidents, the cause in all of them was human error, not equipment failure, they left it too late to deploy their reserve parachute. I had 2 main parachute malfunctions during my time. Edited February 2, 2020 by roo860 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post spidermike007 Posted February 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 2, 2020 Call me a cynic, but with public safety standards here, I would not trust a local skydiving outfit to have high quality equipment, nor well skilled technicians and maintenance people to handle the equipment, nor to make sure their customers are given the best chances of a safe experience. Sorry to hear about this guy. Has to be quite a horrific feeling when your chute does not, will not, and cannot open. My guess is poor equipment, and bad maintenance. You can never count on this administration to take public safety, nor traffic safety seriously. Frankly, I would be just as cautious about the small plane here, as the equipment. 24 1 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post roo860 Posted February 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 2, 2020 32 minutes ago, Yinn said: Dangerous sport. Maybe he panic. RIP Stefan The most dangerous part would be driving to the parachute centre. 10 1 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ventenio Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 I remember all those accidents involving some wire in the jungles...can't think of the name. zip wire or something. OK, we all know our home country takes TONS of precautions and the precautions here are minimal to make money. YET we (not me) risk our lives for what? adventure? LOL i just don't get it. Oh, hey, this wire looks old and frayed.... oh, mai bpen rai....??? 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ChipButty Posted February 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, spidermike007 said: Call me a cynic, but with public safety standards here, I would not trust a local skydiving outfit to have high quality equipment, nor well skilled technicians and maintenance people to handle the equipment, nor to make sure their customers are given the best chances of a safe experience. Sorry to hear about this guy. Has to be quite a horrific feeling when your chute does not, will not, and cannot open. My guess is poor equipment, and bad maintenance. You can never count on this administration to take public safety, nor traffic safety seriously. Frankly, I would be just as cautious about the small plane here, as the equipment. Even stepping outside the house is dangerous in Thailand 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Daffy D Posted February 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 2, 2020 9 minutes ago, ChipButty said: Even stepping outside the house is dangerous in Thailand With the standard of local electrical you don't even have to do that to be in the "Danger Zone" 2 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post roo860 Posted February 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 2, 2020 (edited) How many skydiving clubs in Chonburi? I've found one that's using USA standards, they require you to show your logbook and licence before any solo jump is made, as any club around the world would, Chonburi club run by foreign instructors. Edited February 2, 2020 by roo860 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammieuk1 Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 The only surprising bit of this story was the poor guy wasn't run over as well????Rip 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazySlipper Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 I believe the real question here is what makes the police experts here. Will they call in experts or will they guess at the cause? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacuum Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 (edited) 33 minutes ago, roo860 said: The most dangerous part would be driving to the parachute centre. Well, he obviously managed that part, unfortunately not the second part. Perhaps he panicked, as Yinn suggested? Edited February 2, 2020 by Vacuum 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GroveHillWanderer Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 1 hour ago, rooster59 said: Police have launched an investigation into the incident and are working to establish why the man’s parachute failed to open Surely that should be why both 'chutes, primary and reserve, failed to open? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gk10002000 Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 No auto barometric release or at least altimeter audio warning? No backup chute? Was the guy experienced at all? I used to hang glide quite a bit and when up in my roomie test pilot stunt plane have worn a parachute. I am pretty sure I would not freeze up or panic, so barring a horrible misjudgement of things I am sure I would pull the cord as required. I always wanted to jump, but here in the USA every place I ever checked with makes you get training, do x number tandem jumps first, etc. Can not even sign away all that and just go solo right off the bat. I would not be surprised if shortcuts were taken on this one, but follow up reports are unlikely to be heard 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Yadon Toploy Posted February 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 2, 2020 36 minutes ago, spidermike007 said: Call me a cynic, but with public safety standards here, I would not trust a local skydiving outfit to have high quality equipment, nor well skilled technicians and maintenance people to handle the equipment, nor to make sure their customers are given the best chances of a safe experience. Sorry to hear about this guy. Has to be quite a horrific feeling when your chute does not, will not, and cannot open. My guess is poor equipment, and bad maintenance. You can never count on this administration to take public safety, nor traffic safety seriously. Frankly, I would be just as cautious about the small plane here, as the equipment. Before undertaking any high risk activity here you have to be aware of the generally poor local safety standards and poor training and education of local staff. Doesn't matter if it is riding a motorbike, jumping out a plane or ziplining, or if the company is foreign or locally run. Thailand has a significantly higher risk profile than other countries. Caveat emptor. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinLOS Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 41 minutes ago, roo860 said: As an ex skydiver myself, I've had a few friends killed due to skydiving incidents, the cause in all of them was human error, not equipment failure, they left it too late to deploy their reserve parachute. I had 2 main parachute malfunctions during my time. Shouldnt there be an auto deployment on the reserve.. From when I did some, there was a failsafe AAD system on the reserve (for 1000 ft IIRC ?) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yadon Toploy Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 9 minutes ago, LazySlipper said: I believe the real question here is what makes the police experts here. Will they call in experts or will they guess at the cause? From experience in dealing with incident investigation here they won't have the ability or training to reach satisfactory conclusions, let alone corrective and preventative action plans. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roo860 Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Vacuum said: Well, he obviously managed that part, unfortunately not the second part. Perhaps he panicked, as Yinn suggested? Well, that's debatable, we don't know if he had his own kit or used club kit, being familiar with your own gear is a factor, but the deployment procedure of a reserve parachute is exactly the same on all 'piggyback systems', (main and reserve parachute in the same container. You release your main chute before deploying your reserve, to avoid entanglement . I would have thought club kit would have an AAD device. Edited February 2, 2020 by roo860 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Yinn Posted February 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 2, 2020 6 minutes ago, spidermike007 said: Yes, when it comes to safety, I do automatically blame the Thais. Not to say they are always guilty. But, with the horrendous public safety record this nation has, it is a safe guess. And even though it was a British owner, were the employees British? Were they trained in the UK, (which has quite an outstanding public safety record when it comes to skydiving, and many decades of experience)? Or were they local guys, many of whom do not have alot of pride on their work. This company. Have many problem before. Die before. Have look video, another time. You can blame the worker if one time. If many time maybe the boss? must be thai right? 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiekerjozef Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 Wrong country to skydive. R.I.P young man. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cricky Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 1 hour ago, rooster59 said: the man’s parachute had been properly checked before the jump Checked but I reckon not properly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CharlieH Posted February 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 2, 2020 Hasnt anyone considered another answer, this is Thailand after all, and happens more frequently here than some like to admit............perhaps, he never intended to open it ! That has to be considered and investigated, his personal situation needs to be examined too. Sad way to end a life. RIP. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roo860 Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 7 minutes ago, LivinLOS said: Shouldnt there be an auto deployment on the reserve.. From when I did some, there was a failsafe AAD system on the reserve (for 1000 ft IIRC ?) If there was a problem with his main then it would have been jettisoned before a reserve could be deployed, to avoid entanglement. We don't know if he had his own kit or used club kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Yinn Posted February 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 2, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, CharlieH said: Hasnt anyone considered another answer, this is Thailand after all, and happens more frequently here than some like to admit............perhaps, he never intended to open it ! That has to be considered and investigated, his personal situation needs to be examined too. Sad way to end a life. RIP. Maybe. Same balcony. But not think this time like that. Thai report say he not die immediately. = he have some problem. Try to land. Break his leg also. The ambulance worker try to save him. (Report say and can see in the video) The speed is 124km. If want to suicide. IMO will use the head for land and die quickly. Also he with freind. Not lonely guy. IMO Accident. Human error. RIP Stefan ps. I not argue Charlie. Just disagree opinion. Maybe. IMO. Edited February 2, 2020 by Yinn 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidermike007 Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 11 minutes ago, Yinn said: This company. Have many problem before. Die before. Have look video, another time. You can blame the worker if one time. If many time maybe the boss? must be thai right? Yes, maybe Thais are right here. Do not get me wrong. I love the Thai people, and know many who are smart, competent, and highly skilled. But, you have to admit the safety record here is poor. And so is the government "inspection" system. And the training is sometimes lacking, when it comes to something this specialized and this dangerous. That is all I was saying. Do not mean to cause offense. And simply making a presumption, which may be right, or wrong. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieH Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 4 minutes ago, Yinn said: Maybe. Same balcony. But not think this time like that. Thai report say he not die immediately. = he have some problem. Try to land. Break his leg also. The speed is 124km. If want to suicide. IMO will use the head for land and die quickly. Also he with freind. Not lonely guy. IMO Accident. Human error. RIP Stefan Conflicting information, "freefall" is no deployment, if his parachute wasnt open he cannot "try to land" If you have used Thai news sources Yinn please include links. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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