60 day visa to thailand refused entry without return ticket

[padoo]

i was refused to enter thailand without a return ticket even though i had a 60 day visa in australian passport its the first time i have ever been forced to buy a ticket out of the country before i could enter they said you have had too many tourist visas and we think you are not a tourist i own my own condo and have a girlfriend and they say you must get a marriage visa or a retirement visa and you will not be allowed in on a tourist visa again 

[faraday]

Are you working?

[padoo]

1 minute ago, faraday said:

Are you working?

no never worked in thailand they dont see me as a tourist 

[padoo]

so i purchased a return ticket to kl in 58 days they said that they would hold me in a room till i got one but i have needed  to be flexible on my return dates if there is a problem with my tenants  or some unforeseen circumstance the officer was full on at don mung and would not back down everything i read tells me i do not require a return ticket

[Gweiloman]

How much time did you spend in Thailand last year?

[padoo]

1 minute ago, Gweiloman said:

How much time did you spend in Thailand last year?

about 5 months

[stevenl]

You live here, so should ideally have an extension of stay. Immigration is correct, you're not a tourist.

[ChipButty]

Time to sell your condo and get a new G/F in Vietnam 

A similar thing happened to a friend of mine also Aussie when he landed in Phuket he's not coming back

[theoldgit]

I'll move your post to a more appropriate forum

[padoo]

i just got a new passport and they wanted to see my old one which i did not have 

[DrJack54]

Don't think this is about onward flight.

Most likely related to how long you have been in Thailand. 

I have never obtained a setv in Oz however at many consulates a flight into Thailand and onward flight is required for setv.

Do not understand why imm would want to see previous pp. They would have your previous entries on computer. 

[padoo]

6 minutes ago, stevenl said:

You live here, so should ideally have an extension of stay. Immigration is correct, you're not a tourist.

 i dont believe that

[ChipButty]

3 minutes ago, padoo said:

 i dont believe that

I think you know these IO make up their own rules as they go along, my friend had a return ticket + 20k in his pocket he had not been in TH for more than 6 months

[Ventenio]

The question is...

 

If you didn't own a condo, would you buy one today?  I'm guessing NO.

 

Hey, take my 3 million baht and...what?...I can't visit my own place and i can't even visit the country where I own property and have a gf?  oh, ok, mai bpen rai.  

[ubonjoe]

Just a bogus reason for denial of entry. A return or onward ticket is not required for entry to the country if you have valid visa of any kind.

Did they allow you to enter after you purchased the ticket? 

It is not one the reasons for denial of entry in section 12 of the immigration act.

[padoo]

20 minutes ago, ChipButty said:

Time to sell your condo and get a new G/F in Vietnam 

A similar thing happened to a friend of mine also Aussie when he landed in Phuket he's not coming back

tell me more

[ubonjoe]

12 minutes ago, padoo said:

 i dont believe that

You are correct. There is no written rule for the amount of time spent in the the country for any visa other than the the length of entry you get from it.

[padoo]

2 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

Just a bogus reason for denial of entry. A return or onward ticket is not required for entry to the country if you have valid visa of any kind.

Did they allow you to enter after you purchased the ticket? 

It is not on one the reasons for denial of entry in section 12 of the immigration act.

yes they said we will allow you this time and it was not a valid reason i think i should talk to the tourist police 

[NanLaew]

42 minutes ago, padoo said:

i own my own condo and have a girlfriend

As others have mentioned, you don't fit their tourist profile.

 

39 minutes ago, padoo said:

42 minutes ago, faraday said:

Are you working?

no never worked in thailand they dont see me as a tourist 

And then...

 

32 minutes ago, padoo said:

...if there is a problem with my tenants ...

Suggests you have an 'investment' condo? You have tenants? You are a Landlord?

 

You ARE working then.

[padoo]

2 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

As others have mentioned, you don't fit their tourist profile.

 

And then...

 

Suggests you have an 'investment' condo? You have tenants? You are a Landlord?

 

You ARE working then.

no i have tennants in australia

[NanLaew]

9 minutes ago, padoo said:

yes they said we will allow you this time and it was not a valid reason i think i should talk to the tourist police 

What will you talk with them about? You are quite clearly not a tourist.

 

Why did you get a new passport BTW? Had it simply expired on a due date or did it contain evidence of many entries with TR and other visa types including visa-exempt entries and extensions over an extended period of time?

[NanLaew]

2 minutes ago, padoo said:

no i have tennants in australia

My misunderstanding, thanks.

[ubonjoe]

3 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

What will you talk with them about? You are quite clearly not a tourist.

Can you supply any written rule that states he is not a tourist? You cannot do it since none exists.

[padoo]

3 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

What will you talk with them about? You are quite clearly not a tourist.

 

Why did you get a new passport BTW? Had it simply expired on a due date or did it contain evidence of many entries with TR and other visa types including visa-exempt entries and extensions over an extended period of time?

in 15 years i had 2 extensons and a retirement visa 

[NanLaew]

37 minutes ago, ChipButty said:

Time to sell your condo and get a new G/F in Vietnam 

A similar thing happened to a friend of mine also Aussie when he landed in Phuket he's not coming back

Better be quick then. The following was only posted yesterday pointing out fresh caps on how many times you can pretend to be a tourist in Vietnam. It already has about 11 pages of righteous indignation, shock and talk of coffin nails.

 

 

[JustAnotherHun]

13 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

Just a bogus reason for denial of entry. A return or onward ticket is not required for entry to the country if you have valid visa of any kind.

 

I know you're a fountain of knowledge with any visa cases, but are you sure?

 

I know from a friend who recently came to Thailand with a SETV from Austria. There at checkin they would not let him board because he had no return/onward ticket.

Fortunatelly his brother - living in Thailand - already had bought two tickets to Laos which he had to email in the middle of the night to his brother waiting at the Vienna airport.

Without that he would have been denied.

[Roy Baht]

This treatment by an IO may not be legal or even fair but it certainly should't be a surprise to anyone. I've read dozens of accounts--on this very forum--of people warned or turned away because they do not satisfy the IO's idea of a tourist. "You're visiting your girl-friend? You're not a tourist. Get married" "You're here for months and not staying in a hotel? You're not a tourist. Get a retirement visa." This is not news. 

[ubonjoe]

1 minute ago, JustAnotherHun said:

I know you're a fountain of knowledge with any visa cases, but are you sure?

Yes I am.

 

[NanLaew]

4 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

Can you supply any written rule that states he is not a tourist? You cannot do it since none exists.

You are correct. There isn't one. So what is your point exactly?

 

It doesn't matter a jot what you or I think he is either. Based on what the Immigration Officer saw, the OP isn't what he considered to be a tourist. Furthermore, based on the surge of similar threads about being let in with a last warning or refused entry, it is their country and it is their rules.

[ThaiBunny]

4 minutes ago, JustAnotherHun said:

I know from a friend who recently came to Thailand with a SETV from Austria. There at checkin they would not let him board because he had no return/onward ticket.

Airlines have their own rules