P100 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 I want to cry! Poor poor speed boat mafia. So in future we must be prepared for a wave of speed boat scams to make up for the losses. India take care! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post maprao Posted February 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 5, 2020 7 hours ago, tifino said: ... probably the speedbaots other most common popular destination? would be even worse off? i.e. deserted... I remember the days when these were the only boats you could see in the bay. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 7 minutes ago, maprao said: I remember the days when these were the only boats you could see in the bay. And Bali Hai was an actual nice park and the eyesore building blocking the Pattaya sign wasn't there. Neither were Russian or Chinese hordes. Last of the good times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mok199 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 Take the jet ski ,mini van ,tour bus,watch/sunglasses touters,,, parasail crews, baht bus ,scooter taxi drivers with you...I am sure I left out a few ....Pattaya has not been this nice since 2012... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brer Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 Wonder how much they will put the prices up. Everything will be going up in Pattaya, looks like farangs will have to move to Issan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 9 minutes ago, maprao said: I remember the days when these were the only boats you could see in the bay. I remember seeing a US navy Aircraft carrier quite far offshore in Pattaya bay maybe 1997 or 98 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post peterb17 Posted February 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 5, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Leaver said: Are those that scam, steal and cheat not "local people?" For scamming jet ski operators, zero sympathy. For taxi drivers not using the meter, zero sympathy. For cashiers padding out bar bills, zero sympathy. For bar security who who threaten violence over padded bar bills, zero sympathy. For the places that have dual pricing structure, zero sympathy. For those in the markets throwing a crazy price at me because I am a farang, zero sympathy. For just about every other local, I wish them well, as we head into the Pattaya Financial Crisis. (PFC) Of course the obvious response is why on earth do you live here. Maybe you don’t? I stick with my post - I allege that in the last couple of years the members of this forum have become really quite unpleasant. its a trend in the so- called social media Edited February 5, 2020 by peterb17 Grammar 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Leaver Posted February 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, peterb17 said: Of course the obvious response is why on earth do you live here. Maybe you don’t? I stick with my post - I allege that in the last couple of years the members of this forum have become really quite unpleasant. its a trend in the so- called social media I live here because none of the people on the above list effect me so much that I feel I am not happy living here, but then again, I have local knowledge, and can steer clear of them. What about all the tourists they have scammed over the years? The jet ski guys have ended people's holidays. It's kharma. They took so much money they shouldn't have, and now they get little to none. I you do not little Buddhist principles, why do you live here? ???? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Boy Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 8 hours ago, vadid said: My heart bleeds. Mine too 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardinalblue Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 The Phoenix revenge! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 9 hours ago, webfact said: Siam Chon news reported that one of the worst hit sectors of tourism in the wake of cancellations from China due to the coronavirus outbreak is sea transport companies and speedboat operators. Take the next month to do some maintenance.... I'm sure some of them need it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dallen52 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Stoker58 said: TAT will announce a 10% increase in tourist arrivals. It will probably be a banner headline.. Saying welcome back to the Chinese tourists.. And arrivals are up 20% But no mention of the 30% drop off.. So still down 10%. Thai government officials and mathematics don't go together. Unless it's the Brown paper envelopes %... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destiny1990 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 4 hours ago, Assurancetourix said: I do not know; I don't live in Pattaya or Jomtien; but what is certain is that when they go to get their boats with their pickups, they usually find themselves swept away by the tide; they therefore no longer have vehicles to tow the trailers with the boats on them. No need their boats go out the water these boats lay 24/7 in the bay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 burn the smelly noisy corrupted boats .... and the scamming jet ski's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destiny1990 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 3 hours ago, kingofthemountain said: Large sums of public money have been released to build the marina. Work started with poor quality materials and management, well below the amounts of money released. Despite that the money ran out quickly then they was not able to finish it. You can see now the remains sinking. Nobody tried to find out where the money went. Another page of the Pattaya saga... Win win for these boat guys as they rather occupy to whole beachfront as their Own marina. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthainess Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 They could spend three months making and fitting prop guards but they won't. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaan sailor Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 I’m gonna really miss the winding howl of the outboards, and the screaming Chinese—NOT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfalfa19 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 boo-hoo. cry me a river, scam boys. PS: is the jet ski scam officially dead now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boedog Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 You reap what you sow, maybe the Government could give work to all the people who is affect by complete lack of tourists and clean the rubbish dump which it they call Thailand, but we know that wouldnt be on the agenda, people are sick of the air pollution, from poorly maintained trucks and cars, paddock burns rice, sugarcane, using the forest and canals as rubbish dumps oh and let's not forget there such proactive measures to contain the spread of the virus,and least pretend you care and stop with the <deleted> lip service Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Angus Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 Can we now put a car park in the Bay and get rid of them from there also. It's a big ocean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anicon Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 13 hours ago, jacko45k said: They are at least still travelling to Hong Kong. I read just this week Hong Kong is planning on closing the border from China, sounds reasonable to me.. this virus has also temporarily solved the HK mass protest marches China was concerned about.. at least it's not in the headline news as of now, not nationally anyway.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 2 hours ago, anicon said: I read just this week Hong Kong is planning on closing the border from China, sounds reasonable to me.. this virus has also temporarily solved the HK mass protest marches China was concerned about.. at least it's not in the headline news as of now, not nationally anyway.. Apparently there are many cruise ships with sick people aboard in the harbour too. There are demonstrations about the border too. HONG KONG (BLOOMBERG) - Hundreds of Hong Kong medical workers started striking on Monday (Feb 2) to demand that leader Carrie Lam immediately close the city's border with the mainland to prevent the spread of a deadly coronavirus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raccos21 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonclark Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 Wow - That is six pages of some of the most bitter comments I have ever read. How people can rejoice at the economic hardship that this will cost the people here is staggering. The most effected by this are not the owners of boats, but the small independent traders that rely on low level passing trade to make enough to live on, pay school fees, and rent. People should feel ashamed of themselves. Taking pleasure in another's hardship. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morrobay Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 20 hours ago, Destiny1990 said: What happened with that marina near Bali Hai for these speed boat operators to park there boats? Another train wreak of a project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wongkitlo Posted February 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 6, 2020 1 hour ago, jonclark said: Wow - That is six pages of some of the most bitter comments I have ever read. How people can rejoice at the economic hardship that this will cost the people here is staggering. The most effected by this are not the owners of boats, but the small independent traders that rely on low level passing trade to make enough to live on ok, pay school fees, and rent. People should feel ashamed of themselves. Taking pleasure in another's hardship. I'd say you are correct that the workers not the owners suffer. My guess is that Chinese companies own the boats employing Thai workers. Same with the massage shops and restaurants and hotels where you see the Chinese tour groups going in. They sell cheap tours and everything is "in house". Sure they employ Thais but the profits flow back to China not to the Thai economy so much. The effect of the virus makes it seem questionable whether the solo Chinese travellers are really coming in numbers. They have closed some cities but the free independent travellers are still free to come but don't seem to be there in great numbers. As to posters' reactions there seems to be a lot of ongoing anger at their treatment by Thai authorities (particularly immigration) and their encouragement of Chinese and Indians while they are continually making it harder for Westerners to stay long term, and the incompetence of the Pattaya authorities and their attempts to turn Pattaya into a "family destination". 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 3 hours ago, jonclark said: The most effected by this are not the owners of boats, but the small independent traders that rely on low level passing trade to make enough to live on, pay school fees, and rent. And maybe those dying in China! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenKadz Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 "Some staff have asked to go back to their hometowns in the meantime to find alternative employment." Self Correcting? Maybe some of the thieving ladyboys, bag snatchers, and other social parasites could go along improving safety and security for the rest of us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Christmas13 Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 On 2/6/2020 at 11:30 AM, jonclark said: Wow - That is six pages of some of the most bitter comments I have ever read. How people can rejoice at the economic hardship that this will cost the people here is staggering. The most effected by this are not the owners of boats, but the small independent traders that rely on low level passing trade to make enough to live on, pay school fees, and rent. People should feel ashamed of themselves. Taking pleasure in another's hardship. Is that so, did the speed boat drivers considered the hardship of the Russian families who lost 2 kids in Phuket after speeding and colliding? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metempsychotic Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 On 2/5/2020 at 4:04 PM, DrTuner said: I can really feel the love in the air in this thread ???? Hard to fathom why some of the locals may not be too enamoured of western tourists. Sadly the demographic on thai visa while limited to a number of disgruntled geriatrics mourning their privleged way of life is quite visible and does none of us any favours with their incessant negativity. I have no issue with constructive criticism, but his thread and many like it ate not critical they are downright abusive if not outright bigotry. To take such joy in a complete loss of income by an entire group of people and their families - no matter how distateful you find the service they provide is just plain petty. Why not outright wish their familes and children starve for your personal entertainment. Perhaps you dont like the speedboats, but who ultimately is at fault for letting the service they provide become unregulated. Lets shoot the baht bus and taxi drivers next - they are all bad right? What you seem to neglect to consider is this is just one aspect of how folks are going to struggle in pattaya over the coming months. These boat operators are a single ink in the chain, the people they ferry stay somewhere, eat somewhere, get transporeted by someone, they buy their tat souveniers and spend their money with someone else. They only thing thus entire debacle is proving is how very low on the food chain the sexpat, week long millionaires and threadbare retirees truly are in the grand scheme of things. Taking your petty pleaure in this is watching pattaya decline yet further, the <deleted>hole that it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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