1 minute ago, OneMoreFarang said:

It's almost funny when the Brexiters think about the consequences for the EU.

Here is a hint: Soon you won't think about the consequences for the EU anymore because you will be too busy with all the consequences in the UK from taking back control. ???? 

In reality Brexiteers don't give two hoots about the EU, all the naysayers just happen to be remainers and Eumainers with the odd antipodean throw in.

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2 hours ago, evadgib said:

17.4M & they're perfectly glad that they did so.

Do we need yet another brexit thread? Putting fires out all day is getting monotonous ????

Nobody voted for hard Brexit.

 

This is what the leave campaign was saying before the referendum.

 

 

They lied.

1 hour ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Maybe have look at this interesting article and maybe think again:

 

Boris Johnson’s hard line on trade could sink the UK’s fishing fleet

The sort of minimal deal he is after would be a disaster for an industry that relies on frictionless trade

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/feb/09/boris-johnson-trade-uk-fishing-fleet-industry

 

Really interesting. The expected biased, slanted rot from Gardening Today:

 

John Lichfield is a journalist(?) based in France and he calls the gilets jaunes "lefties"! ????

5 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

Nobody voted for hard Brexit.

 

This is what the leave campaign was saying before the referendum.

 

 

They lied.

OMG, I am not going through all this again.

Just now, nauseus said:

OMG, I am not going through all this again.

They lied to you.

You guys simply refuse to see it.

9 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

Nobody voted for hard Brexit.

 

This is what the leave campaign was saying before the referendum.

 

 

They lied.

Welcome to 2017. Yawn.

 

The deal or lack thereof is up to Parliament now. You know, the Tory dominated Parliament elected by the people 2 months ago. After all, Parliament is sovereign. Remember?

 

How do ya like them Apples? Bit salty? ????

4 hours ago, webfact said:

 

The government said among the benefits of implementing border controls were ensuring the right customs and excise duties are collected and borders are kept secure.

In order for a complex strainer to drain water out and not the noodles, it is necessary and sufficient that the holes diameter be sensibly smaller than the one of the noodles.    In order for a complex strainer to drain noodles out and not water, it is necessary and sufficient that the holes diameter be sensibly smaller than the one of water.

I wonder if any Brits have noticed that the rest of the world is soooooo bored with brexit squabble?

39 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Really interesting. The expected biased, slanted rot from Gardening Today:

 

John Lichfield is a journalist(?) based in France and he calls the gilets jaunes "lefties"! ????

Yeah sure, the old game of shooting the messenger...........

2 hours ago, samran said:

I thought the whole point of being a Tory was to CUT the cost of doing business? 
 

Ah well, it will just be passed on to consumers who will have to bear the cost of this. Less money in people’s pockets at the end of the day. 

After so many years of socialism, you're not allowed to; really the massive and ever-expanding budgetary waistline of the NHS should be cut, but that would apparently be evil, according to lefties.

The cost of it, of course, will be passed onto every subsequent generation in taxes, skintifying them.

39 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Welcome to 2017. Yawn.

 

The deal or lack thereof is up to Parliament now. You know, the Tory dominated Parliament elected by the people 2 months ago. After all, Parliament is sovereign. Remember?

 

How do ya like them Apples? Bit salty? ????

Still cant face it can you?

You were lied to.

Now this is what I dont understand with Brexiteers. Most people having been lied to would be angry with the people who had deceived them into voting a certain way. Especially when faced with the prospect of huge damage being done to the country they profess to love. Hurting your own country is not the actions of a patriot. Quite the opposite in fact.

You guys have been fooled. Duped. Conned. Sold a pup.

However you all seem to have doubled down on Brexit. Refusing to acknowledge that what you all thought you were getting is not what is being delivered. 

10 minutes ago, codebunny said:

After so many years of socialism, you're not allowed to; really the massive and ever-expanding budgetary waistline of the NHS should be cut, but that would apparently be evil, according to lefties.

The cost of it, of course, will be passed onto every subsequent generation in taxes, skintifying them.

Not for much longer. Soon to be sold off to US health companies.

Just another Brexit benefit. 

2 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

Not for much longer. Soon to be sold off to US health companies.

Just another Brexit benefit. 

Blimey, they have advised you already ?
 

No wonder you are ahead of us in the information stakes. 
 

You are sooooo superior, we are unworthy.

2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The fishing rights were sold and are owned by the foreigners who bought them, there rights of ownership are protected under UK laws.

 

Nobody in the UK is getting fishing rights back, or at least not unless they buy them.

"there"?!

 

I think you need to check yourself... fishing quotas are not permanent.

2 hours ago, puck2 said:

....  in higher prices for many items.

Be lucky that you have to pay for it, and enjoy it as you like the Brexit so much .

If the Germans like exporting to the UK, they may have to cut their costs to keep the prices down, if Barnier trashes German exports by failing to agree a deal.

2 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Maybe have look at this interesting article and maybe think again:

 

Boris Johnson’s hard line on trade could sink the UK’s fishing fleet

The sort of minimal deal he is after would be a disaster for an industry that relies on frictionless trade

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/feb/09/boris-johnson-trade-uk-fishing-fleet-industry

 

The Guardian...

 

...dat be like the Daily Express for remainiacs.

4 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Imaging you have free trade for decades and then someone introduces harsh border controls and they call it progress.

 

Someone should have mentioned that in 2016. How many people would have voted for that version of Brexit?

It's even worsen than that, Ireland and Scotland will still be in the EU (iirc) so they can still do free trades. 

 

Will the UK also get border controls with those neighbours?

2 hours ago, stephenterry said:

Little England border controls is a consequence of the UK leaving the EU umbrella. There will probably be many more hurdles to cross by its going it alone as a third Union country.  If Scotland and NI fall by the wayside and go their own path, we can all look back to the day when the 2016 referendum threatened our prosperity - because as sure as eggs are eggs, there are little foreseeable positives in Brexit for the next decade.   

What a load of rubbish. There are huge foreseeable positives in Brexit for the next decade.

 

2 hours ago, stephenterry said:

The EU, USA, and China are just too powerful to let Little England join their monopoly over global trade markets. At best, we'll pay dearly to become a customer.

Based on what?! A customer of what? There's absolutely nothing meaningful or specific in that.

The EU isn't a country. It's Germany, plus a few other countries all with transnational corporations.

Most of the EU is plagued by high unemployment and sub-inflationary growth (i.e.: decline).

China desperately needs expertise in many areas, not least of which, in finance.

2 hours ago, stephenterry said:

However, that's negative thinking, and I sincerely hope that johnson heads a government that focuses internally on improving living standards, security and crime prevention, and health care for my younger generation family in the UK. After all, they're going to have to pay for the consequences of a Brexit austerity programme, aren't they?

No, they already paid for the New Labour austerity repair programme; and with further reforms to de-NewLabourize Britain, they will benefit from the growth bonanza from new international trade deals, whilst Germany & Co. try to work out where to sell to if Britain ain't buying.

6 minutes ago, Jip99 said:

Blimey, they have advised you already ?
 

No wonder you are ahead of us in the information stakes. 
 

You are sooooo superior, we are unworthy.

It has been well documented the US wants access to the NHS in order for an Anglo American trade deal to be struck.

But you already know that.

And Given Trump has just demonstrated how "special" the relationship is between the two countries by giving his lapdog Johnson the hairdryer treatment over the phone it bodes ill that any favourable trade deal for the UK will be signed.

But you guys want that because you all knew what you were voting for.

1 hour ago, samran said:

The greater irony is that Brexit was all about being open to the world and trading with them.

 

That's going to be a bit tough if you can't stand hearing any views which don't gel with yours. Strange, but not unexpected of people of a particular ilk.

Being open, but not so open-minded that your brain falls out.

Views that are dreary repetitive toss don't gel with anyone, forsooth, ilk, perchance, juxtaposition, thus.

You do talk funny. 

1 minute ago, codebunny said:

What a load of rubbish. There are huge foreseeable positives in Brexit for the next decade.

 

Based on what?! A customer of what? There's absolutely nothing meaningful or specific in that.

The EU isn't a country. It's Germany, plus a few other countries all with transnational corporations.

Most of the EU is plagued by high unemployment and sub-inflationary growth (i.e.: decline).

China desperately needs expertise in many areas, not least of which, in finance.

No, they already paid for the New Labour austerity repair programme; and with further reforms to de-NewLabourize Britain, they will benefit from the growth bonanza from new international trade deals, whilst Germany & Co. try to work out where to sell to if Britain ain't buying.

Absolute nonsense.

Detail some of the "huge forseeable positives".

1 hour ago, samran said:

And here I was thinking that it was the opinion and argument which mattered. 
 

Given that there isn't much in the way of argument, there's not much to matter.

 

1 hour ago, samran said:

 

That some people place more weight on someone’s background, well that’s just.....strange. But predictable. 

He said where they're from, not what they are, but you knew that, didn't you.

Are you playing the race card to shut down debate, or just trolling for cheap thrills?

2 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

Absolute nonsense.

Detail some of the "huge forseeable positives".

Already have. Go and read them if you can make your eyes point the other way.

1 hour ago, Rookiescot said:

Nobody voted for hard Brexit.

 

This is what the leave campaign was saying before the referendum.

 

 

They lied.

No that video is lying.

You have Dan Hannan saying it won't threaten our place in the single market, and the rest is about Norway and Switzerland.

Another lie is...

There's no such thing as a hard brexit, there is only brexit or no brexit, and people voted for brexit.

6 minutes ago, codebunny said:

Given that there isn't much in the way of argument, there's not much to matter.

 

He said where they're from, not what they are, but you knew that, didn't you.

Are you playing the race card to shut down debate, or just trolling for cheap thrills?

Well when multiple posters - over many many months - can’t help repeatedly making a big deal or taking cheap shots at my background then you do wonder...

 

Thing like this are BIG deal for them, life experience has shown. 

1 hour ago, Rookiescot said:

They lied to you.

You guys simply refuse to see it.

Remain lied to you, and you simply refuse to see it. Why would you vote for your own economic future to be stolen from you by voting to remain in the EU?!

6 minutes ago, codebunny said:

Already have. Go and read them if you can make your eyes point the other way.

Cant find them.

Please list them again for me.

1 minute ago, codebunny said:

Remain lied to you, and you simply refuse to see it. Why would you vote for your own economic future to be stolen from you by voting to remain in the EU?!

What were you saying about ‘dreary repetitive toss’?

1 minute ago, samran said:

Well when multiple posters - over many many months - can’t help repeatedly making a big deal or taking cheap shots at my background then you do wonder...

 

Thing like this are BIG deal for them, life experience has shown. 

You sound a bit paranoid, tbh. If you want to make a show of your identity in public, it shouldn't be a surprise if it's referred to sometimes, but that's not what was happening here.

My kids are the same as you, and wouldn't encourage them to make a big show of it.