8 hours ago, bannork said:

65. Protection against unfair treatment in the workplace thanks to the EU Charter of Fundamental Rights 66. Minimum of 4 weeks paid leave (introduced by EU in 1993, taken up by the UK in 1998 and later extended to 28 days in 2009).

I have never read such nonsense in all my life, did you read this before posting. 

 

It says a minimum of 4 weeks paid leave, taken up by the UK in 1998 and later extended to 28 days in 2009. Call me a little old cynic if you like, but isn't 4 weeks the same as 28 days?

BTW here is a chart to compare the EU workers rights to that of the UKs and as you can see our workers rights are far superiour to that of the EUs.

 

8 hours ago, bannork said:

17. Longest unbroken peace in Europe (outside civil wars) for over a thousand years.

Are you serious? Did WW1 and WW2 slip your mind.

9 minutes ago, vogie said:

Are you serious? Did WW1 and WW2 slip your mind.

Um, the EU didn't exist until after WW2!

5 minutes ago, bannork said:

Um, the EU didn't exist until after WW2!

Ah I see now, you are giving credit to the EU because we havn't had a war for 55 years, you are not counting Bosnia because that doesn't fit in with your narrative.

Maybe if a certain european country hadn't started two wars we could boast of a period of one hundred years of peace, according to your list anyway.

10 minutes ago, vogie said:

Ah I see now, you are giving credit to the EU because we havn't had a war for 55 years, you are not counting Bosnia because that doesn't fit in with your narrative.

Maybe if a certain european country hadn't started two wars we could boast of a period of one hundred years of peace, according to your list anyway.

Try and get with it. Bosnia is not included because the article excluded civil wars.

WW2 finished 75 years ago. Please try to live in the present.

9 hours ago, bannork said:

61. A friend to cosy up to against the might of the USA and China

Could you explain this one to us all please, many of us in the UK already consider The USA already a friend. And if the might of China should attack us, I know where my allegiancies will be, it will not be with a German army that use wooden rifles for training.????????????

3 minutes ago, bannork said:

Try and get with it. Bosnia is not included because the article excluded civil wars.

WW2 finished 75 years ago. Please try to live in the present.

As I said your narrative, if the EU cannot prevent wars on their own soil so to speak, what chance have they got in the big wide world, it is not me that needs to get with it.

1 hour ago, vogie said:

I have never read such nonsense in all my life, did you read this before posting. 

 

It says a minimum of 4 weeks paid leave, taken up by the UK in 1998 and later extended to 28 days in 2009. Call me a little old cynic if you like, but isn't 4 weeks the same as 28 days?

BTW here is a chart to compare the EU workers rights to that of the UKs and as you can see our workers rights are far superiour to that of the EUs.

 

Some employers interpreted 4 weeks to mean 4 working weeks. Thus if the working week was 5 days thus 4 weeks equated to 20 days

1 hour ago, vogie said:

I have never read such nonsense in all my life, did you read this before posting. 

 

It says a minimum of 4 weeks paid leave, taken up by the UK in 1998 and later extended to 28 days in 2009. Call me a little old cynic if you like, but isn't 4 weeks the same as 28 days?

BTW here is a chart to compare the EU workers rights to that of the UKs and as you can see our workers rights are far superiour to that of the EUs.

Perhaps, had you read the list before brexit, you would not have wanted to do the self harm.

 

Your question of 4 weeks vs. 28 days. How many working days there are in 4 weeks?

1 hour ago, vogie said:

Could you explain this one to us all please, many of us in the UK already consider The USA already a friend. And if the might of China should attack us, I know where my allegiancies will be, it will not be with a German army that use wooden rifles for training.????????????

England is not yet eating chlorinated chicken is it? Not yet.

5 minutes ago, TheDark said:

Perhaps, had you read the list before brexit, you would not have wanted to do the self harm.

 

Your question of 4 weeks vs. 28 days. How many working days there are in 4 weeks?

I would not be surprised if they have a "English working week" named.....nationalism overal .....????

24 minutes ago, TheDark said:

Perhaps, had you read the list before brexit, you would not have wanted to do the self harm.

 

Your question of 4 weeks vs. 28 days. How many working days there are in 4 weeks?

So basically you don't have a clue what it means, if it meant a working week, it would have said a working week, and incidentally this nonsense has been copied and pasted from twitter by an unknown called Edwin Hayward, who after checking his twitter account has written a book called "slaying Brexit Unicorns" so by that fact alone would it be fair to say he is as biased as a crown green bowl.

 

Portugal are in the process of introducing 'fast track lanes' for British citizens at all their airports. That would make it easier for all of us should we wish to travel there, wouldn't you say?

 

49. Use of EU queues at ports and airports

26 minutes ago, TheDark said:

England is not yet eating chlorinated chicken is it? Not yet.

Still get in spoonies?????????????

27 minutes ago, vogie said:

So basically you don't have a clue what it means, if it meant a working week, it would have said a working week, and incidentally this nonsense has been copied and pasted from twitter by an unknown called Edwin Hayward, who after checking his twitter account has written a book called "slaying Brexit Unicorns" so by that fact alone would it be fair to say he is as biased as a crown green bowl.

 

Portugal are in the process of introducing 'fast track lanes' for British citizens at all their airports. That would make it easier for all of us should we wish to travel there, wouldn't you say?

 

49. Use of EU queues at ports and airports

I am not clear on your point about 28days and 4 weeks.

Under present UK law 28 days leave means 5.6 weeks for regular workers . Those that work 5 days a week.

1 hour ago, david555 said:

I would not be surprised if they have a "English working week" named.....nationalism overal .....????

Andrew Neil nails it again when he said "I do wish British journalists — esp Brussels-based — would stop repeating the false mantra that the EU holds all the cards in upcoming negotiations. It holds many, perhaps more than UK. But if UK left on WTO rules it would have total regulatory freedom. EU’s worst nightmare."

5 minutes ago, vogie said:

Andrew Neil nails it again when he said "I do wish British journalists — esp Brussels-based — would stop repeating the false mantra that the EU holds all the cards in upcoming negotiations. It holds many, perhaps more than UK. But if UK left on WTO rules it would have total regulatory freedom. EU’s worst nightmare."

I'm sorry, but weren't you the one, who started this 4 weeks isn't the same as 28 days discussion?

 

3 hours ago, vogie said:

Call me a little old cynic if you like, but isn't 4 weeks the same as 28 days?

 

Oh, it was you, little old cynic.

 

5 hours ago, bannork said:

I'm a Brexit basher, not a Brit basher. As you rightly point out I"m an Anglophile who loves Old Blighty, I just hate to see the motherland shoot herself in both feet with the Brexit madness.

God bless Tommy Cooper, Martin Peters, Geoff Hurst, and of course the lovely Vera Lynn.

Al those people were born and before the UK joined the E.U and excelled whilst the UK were not in the E.U

3 minutes ago, sanemax said:

Al those people were born and before the UK joined the E.U and excelled whilst the UK were not in the E.U

I'm just showing age and love for the motherland. 

I'll leave it to you to find young Brits born in the 1970s plus who have excelled.

In the meantime God bless Martin Peters' sons, daughters and grandchildren. God bless Nobby Styles' descendants, etc 

On 2/19/2020 at 8:29 PM, Rookiescot said:

They were never off the TV. Interviewed by Sky and the BBC. All of them looking like boiled lobsters sitting in an English themed pub in Spain shouting about "taking back control".

No sympathy at all from me for all those gammons.

Just to clarify .

You would like Scottish independence , for Scotland to take back control ..............and you are living in Thailand ?

   How are you different to people you speak of ?

On 2/19/2020 at 10:01 PM, Rookiescot said:

The UK has just made ALL EU citizens resident in the UK apply for permission to stay.

Yes, they just have to do it online .

Just have to register online , very simple to do  

On 2/19/2020 at 6:09 PM, Rookiescot said:

Its the UK which is proposing to keep people out of the UK based on language.

No, its already a requirement .

People who want to live in the UK must be able to speak English 

The UK previously had little areas where no one spoke English 

Areas where Urdu was the only spoken language 

 

12 hours ago, Rookiescot said:

Did we resolve the issue of the cost of Brexit?

Oh only if you believe Johnson and ignore experts.

 

If unemployment is so low why did Patel say there are 8 million economically inactive people in the UK? Explain who these people are.

Wages are back where they were 12 years ago? Thats a damned disgrace never mind a cause for celebration. 12 years of austerity caused by the Conservatives. Suppose someone had to pay for the rich screwing up but it wasn't going to be the rich was it?

 

So someone is planning to build a film studio in London. As it stands they will currently be asking how much government grants are we going to get if we build it here rather than say Paris. Even if it does get built its just another benefit to London and the southeast. Does nothing for the rest of the UK.

The economically inactive are those who can but don't work. An example might be a stay at home mum / dad, or a 60 year old who could but doesn't necessarily need to work. 

 

As for the rest of your comment - just more "we're all doomed" stuff. You'll always find a way to turn good news into bad news. Sad really. 

37 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said:

The economically inactive are those who can but don't work. An example might be a stay at home mum / dad, or a 60 year old who could but doesn't necessarily need to work. 

 

As for the rest of your comment - just more "we're all doomed" stuff. You'll always find a way to turn good news into bad news. Sad really. 

Their continuous SNP sulk-a-thon kills or diverts any Brexit related thread in one direction; ????????????????????????????! ????

On 2/19/2020 at 10:55 PM, david555 said:

Aha at least somebody who understand the game from " depending what you do to me , i shall decide what i do to you " 

That is what i meant earlier eith the ping-pong .....or can call it playing chess ...????

Congratulations Sanemax  your understanding is improving ....????

Yes, I understand why you are so upset about the UK requiring immigrants to speak English

In this whole thread, there is one word missing from your vocabulary which is *reciprocal" 

  You have used many words trying to get that point across , when one big word would have been appropriate  

Looks like the EU might start thinking they should have treated the UK a bit better, instead of the hard-nosed attitude from its unelected leaders

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8028565/EU-leaders-argue-early-hours-bruising-budget-talks.html

14 hours ago, vogie said:

Andrew Neil nails it again when he said "I do wish British journalists — esp Brussels-based — would stop repeating the false mantra that the EU holds all the cards in upcoming negotiations. It holds many, perhaps more than UK. But if UK left on WTO rules it would have total regulatory freedom. EU’s worst nightmare."

I notice :

"I do wish....."  ????????....

On 2/19/2020 at 4:49 PM, Nigel Garvie said:

Ho Ho, revenge is it! 

It is simply the level playing field approach. 

You can see the Costa Mucha full of UK pensioners who try to create their little England in the sun, with their English pub, whist drives, bowls, fish and chips etc etc. Absolutely no attempt to interact with the locals, appreciate their special culture and history, or heaven forbid learn their language. The cream of English society expiring in the sun with little hint of residual cranial activity!

The ultimate irony is that those who voted Brexit are finding that their health insurance will no longer be valid EU wide. Oh to be a fly on the wall and watch them - with faces like thunder - searching for a run down flat in Slough when they are forced to come home to get attention for the old boys dicky heart.

I shouldn't laugh, fundamentally it is just sad and pathetic. 

They will still get health coverage and their Uk pensions will no longer be frozen 

1 hour ago, sanemax said:

Yes, I understand why you are so upset about the UK requiring immigrants to speak English

In this whole thread, there is one word missing from your vocabulary which is *reciprocal" 

  You have used many words trying to get that point across , when one big word would have been appropriate  

You are 100% right thank you ....i was really strugling for it as i remember a sound of it ...but i was not sure how to prenounce it....as our hardliner Verhofstadt use it regular.

Thanks i go write it down as i shall need it continuous ...as is the best policy against Brexiteer Brits tyrrany ????????

 

In my humble trying to write English must know i never learned English in school...only 3 other languages ......but English speaking no problem as long it is to Americans ????...

2 minutes ago, david555 said:

but English speaking no problem as long it is to Americans ????...

Probably a mile OT, but that typically fails, IMO...

16 minutes ago, david555 said:

I notice :

"I do wish....."  ????????....

You don't recognize attempts at politeness, do you?