More than 1,100 Thai’s returning from South Korea before March 1st cannot be located

[CraigInBangkok]

16 minutes ago, Borzandy said:

Only farangs can be located by the bmw car.

I think I have outwitted the smart car ... I had my crash helmet and goggles on when it drove into tesco car park the other day ... no flashing lights or sirens went off! /s

[Tops]

2 hours ago, PatOngo said:

Fled the scene!...…….100% Under control???...………… Spin that one!

Nah, it's 0.01% under control !!!

[lamyai3]

2 hours ago, ezzra said:

For a smart car to smartly operate you need smart people to operate it smartly.. if you get my drift here...

The two main requirements are

1) proficiency at driving the car in a straight line, 

2) knowing how to turn the laptop off and back on again. 

[Ventenio]

I just got an oil massage by 10 Thai girls and i'm just realizing their Korean was very good!!!!  

Edited March 5, 2020 by Ventenio

[spiekerjozef]

Did they swim back?

[hotchilli]

4 hours ago, webfact said:

Thailand’s Ministry of Labour has expressed concern that the whereabouts of 1,181 Thai workers, who returned from South Korea between February 24th and March 1st, are currently not known and the ministry is seeking help from the Immigration Bureau to find them.

Amazing cock-up already... "we're in control" REALLY !!!!!!

[outsider]

4 hours ago, webfact said:

... the Public Health Ministry rolled out more stringent screening on March 1st.

 

Meaning officers started looking at the temperature-monitoring screens and stopped looking at FB updates and sending idiotic Line stickers. You guys really redefine and elevate ineptness and incompetence to new levels.

Edited March 5, 2020 by outsider

[Olmate]

14 minutes ago, saengd said:

The plane ticket must be paid for and the airlines will know which bank or credit card was used, and the number, that is sufficient for Immigration to query the credit card company/card issuer as to the cardholders address, it's not as though privacy laws prevent that. People underestimate they degree to which they are traceable, if the police/Immigration want to find out they can.

That may be valid in a serious investigation ,not in this scenario I,m afraid. Looking for 1100 Thai labourers recently returned whom I’m certain don,t have credit cards, don’t have to show address on arrival and could be virtually anywhere now via bus or private transport .Either way their not located it seems.

[hotchilli]

2 hours ago, saengd said:

Immigration has the passengers landing card data and also their Thai ID number, how come they can't find them.....hmmm!

Should be easy... they'll all be at home for the 14 days incubation period...

[Jimbo2014]

4 hours ago, webfact said:

Thailand’s Ministry of Labour has expressed concern that the whereabouts of 1,181 Thai workers,

Have they checked soi 6 to walking street in Pattaya?  ????

[PatOngo]

25 minutes ago, Tops said:

Nah, it's 0.01% under control !!!

Optimist!

[Sydebolle]

BMW Smart Cars; they find lumberjack Joe in the sticks of anywhere so doing a run on Khon Thai is a walk in the park! Pathetic, to say the least! 

 

[Misterwhisper]

2 hours ago, PatOngo said:

 

Yes, the authorities have been outsmarted by illegal farm workers and prostitutes returning from Korea!!

There's the clue. Perhaps they should start looking in Nana Plaza, Soi Bangla, Working Walking Street and assorted "therapeutic massage" places. And if that fails to turn up a substantial number of these "mysteriously missing", scour the rice fields nationwide. Should be easy, as they're all laying dry.

[bluesofa]

1 hour ago, saengd said:

Yes possibly, but I suspect most people don't update their Thai ID address when they move, payment details I suspect are likely to be more current, dunno for sure.

Agreed, that's a very good point.

[PatOngo]

6 minutes ago, Misterwhisper said:

There's the clue. Perhaps they should start looking in Nana Plaza, Soi Bangla, Working Walking Street and assorted "therapeutic massage" places. And if that fails to turn up a substantial number of these "mysteriously missing", scour the rice fields nationwide. Should be easy, as they're all laying dry.

Or maybe they could just extract their heads out of their butts and seek a dose of reality!

[Surasak]

Its not the loss of 'face' these people should be worried about, its the lack of brains.

[scorecard]

1 hour ago, saengd said:

Credit card companies usually have the customers address, it would be highly unusual that they didn't, even in Thailand. I suspect you're looking at things from an avoidance perspective, I'm looking at the issue of what most normal people might have.

In fact some banks have various processes to try to keep addresses of card holders up to date. 

 

Bank sends monthly bill, card holder has changed address but not told issuing bank, card holder can't be found therefore legal action to recover the debt can't proceed, bank writes off the debt. Therefore good reason for banks to be active to try to have an up to date address for every card holder.

 

Just one example, from an old MBA student; cardholder from Thailand tries to use the card in another country, bank calls the known number and asks the card holder 'where are you'? and ', and are you trying to use your card in xxx country right now'? Then 'for security check, can you please give me your current residential address', last question for several reasons, just one reason being to not miss an opportunity to get a confirmation of or update of current residential address.

 

Some banks do all of the above, some don't, their choice. UOB one example, I had the above call many times some years back, whether they still do it I don't know. 

[Artisi]

3 hours ago, saengd said:

Immigration has the passengers landing card data and also their Thai ID number, how come they can't find them.....hmmm!

Don't ask difficult please, or are you a trouble maker? 

[Olmate]

9 minutes ago, Artisi said:

Don't ask difficult please, or are you a trouble maker? 

Returning Thai don’t do passenger card ,maybe that’s not too difficult!

[moutamine]

Ticking time bombs!

[johnarth]

could they be in an army hospital, in this situation the army would not say

[tomauasia]

4 hours ago, saengd said:

Immigration has the passengers landing card data and also their Thai ID number, how come they can't find them.....hmmm!

Some are in extended long time

[Misterwhisper]

1 hour ago, PatOngo said:

Or maybe they could just extract their heads out of their butts and seek a dose of reality!

You're dreaming.

[raccos21]

Give them an ankle Coronavirus tracking device that can hook up with their smart BMW car.So they can allocate them in a faster way.

[Naamblar2014]

2 hours ago, scorecard said:

And of course the USA, UK, Germany and other european and scandinavean, Australia etc., country always require their citizens, when returning to their country of origin to lodge a document showing the full address they will go to. 

Can't speak for the other countries you mention,  but Australia does ask address on incoming passenger card. I believe same form for citizens and visitors.

[DefaultName]

Credit card info won't help much.  Most will have walked into a travel agent with money in hand, so the CC info will be the agents, not the travellers.

[animatic]

No surprise at all. These are folks on the margins before this. They had the gumption to go to Korea, so not wallflowers, but outward movers, and not all would be Phee Noi of course. The better educated folks would be first to leave.
 

But the number of 1100 +\- lost to government scrutiny is likely horribly low for any day. Yes they attempt to check IDs along roads for Thais moving about, but that’s mostly to stop smuggling or track escapees. Not to list your average non-criminal thai worker going where the jobs are.

Most Thais below 40 Stay registered in their home village and then leave for whatever reason motivates them. Seasonal work, regular short term job, ‘sub-Rosa work’ and the like. Not thinking it’s permanent jobs, so not reregistered there. Hence the huge migrations during holidays and around national votes.

 

So, if roadblock check points are not logging all national IDs into a national database to track all low income Thais, or their “registered phones” are Not triangulated by cell signals, they won’t be found easily.
 

Will Big Brother's surveillance society be 100% ‘finger on forehead’ when some politician decides he wants it. Well the control freak military trained leaders likely wish they could. They were trained a lifetime for total hierarchal control, since that’s what the military is. Old habits die hard, but society is not a military organization, nor should it ever be. 

The little folks may want to stay unfound by Big Brother or BiB. Especially if they don’t want to get locked down for two weeks. And not understanding the real medical aspects of this virus would be quite common. 

 

So many might want to avoid being found, since “the nail that sticks up gets hammered down”.

Edited March 5, 2020 by animatic

[Sonhia]

Yet another blow for we have it under control, perfect toytown.

[robsamui]

I've been waiting for some announcement like this - it's the front end of a gigantic face-saving exercise.

The current administration are totally out of their depth and have been looking for a way to explain the humiliating mass-infection that they daren't declare or even admit to. With everything "100% under control" ???? they can now blame it on the South Koreans.

Edited March 5, 2020 by robsamui

[wensiensheng]

5 hours ago, saengd said:

Immigration has the passengers landing card data and also their Thai ID number, how come they can't find them.....hmmm!

Thais don’t fill in a landing card. Their passports are biometric. But presumably the electronic address details linked to the passport is from the tabian  baan. And it’s quite likely a goodly number live elsewhere than that address.