Thailand reports four new coronavirus cases - including Italian tourist - total 47

[Jumbo1968]

5 hours ago, christophe75 said:

Oh snap... An italian tourist... And Iran ! 

 

How surprising...

 

Exactly what we were talking about.... And exactly the problem that the dumb authorities DO NOT WANT to care about.

 

Close the freaking borders. Create a real list (not a fantasy list in the twisted mind of a pseudo minister) of countries with high risks.

 

Impose quarantine like Israel.

 

Do your job !

You want every country in the world where there is Coronavirus to close their borders, the UK have more cases than Thailand now so they should close their border ?

The whole world would just down which would be disastrous all round I think. Yes quarantine every one who enters the UK from a country who have Coronavirus, get real !

Edited March 5, 2020 by blackcab
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[Nyezhov]

3 hours ago, bkkcanuck8 said:

including the US which has also tried to implement the Chinese model of muzzling press that conflicts with the official line).

Total falsehood

[soalbundy]

3 hours ago, EricTh said:

Well, if Thailand were to ban tourists from certain countries, they should be fair and ban the top 10 most risky countries. All these have more than 100 cases.

 

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

 

1. China (including HK, Macau)

2. Korea

3. Italy

4. Iran

5. Japan

6. France

7. Germany

8. Spain

9. USA

10. Singapore

 

What goes around comes around.

That still leaves India, Moldavia, Iraq and Afghanistan, no problems.

[Jumbo1968]

1 minute ago, soalbundy said:

That still leaves India, Moldavia, Iraq and Afghanistan, no problems.

And the UK ?

[Stevemercer]

Most recent studies from China indicate that the average time for virus incubation (from when you catch it to showing symptoms) is 3 - 7 days. The longest reported/verified incubation is up to 14 days. There were reports of someone having an incubation period of 27 days, but this appears to be false.

 

So, in most cases, people will start showing symptoms maybe 5 days after catching the virus (although 3 days has been reported with many people). .

[Cadan]

No racism please. The economy is in its worst shape already and only getting worse. I agree can’t close the border. For 16 official cases now it’s unbelievable what’s being done to contain the spreading 

[Neeranam]

5 cases in 2 Khon Kaen hospitals but I only know through someone that works there. Hushh Hushh.

[Jumbo1968]

Probably loads in the outlying districts but not being reported as people won’t be going to a hospital ? 

[AlienHermit66]

3 hours ago, NoBrainer said:

According to John Hopkins site, once a country hits 80-100 confirmed case, it looks like it doubles every 4 days until around 5000 cases and then it tapers off slightly as it continues to rise.

Thailand has not yet, (at least not yet reported), made it to the point where it quickly ramps up in number of cases. But seems to be only a matter of time now, the Genie is Out of the Bottle.

Well, that mathematical magic most certainly did not occur in Japan. If it were true, Japan would have thousands of case now, rather than 300. Can't include the death ship people in the calculation, since they were not "in Japan" and they are not "in Japan" now either. Rather than using the term "country," maybe JH should use the term "hot spot" or "infection hell hole." You know, places like Qom in Iran, or whatever community the Christina cult is located in in South Korea. 

[Bantex]

It’s funny that for days the official number of virus cases was only one yet local medical staff were ably to tell my wife that there was another  confirmed four, days ago but they were not allowed to officially disclose the info which was banned by all hospitals.

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[mrfill]

43 minutes ago, soalbundy said:

That still leaves India, Moldavia, Iraq and Afghanistan, no problems.

Moldavia?

 

Wasn't that where they had the huge gunfight at the wedding in an episode of Dynasty?

[bkkcanuck8]

6 minutes ago, AlienHermit66 said:

Well, that mathematical magic most certainly did not occur in Japan. If it were true, Japan would have thousands of case now, rather than 300. Can't include the death ship people in the calculation, since they were not "in Japan" and they are not "in Japan" now either. Rather than using the term "country," maybe JH should use the term "hot spot" or "infection hell hole." You know, places like Qom in Iran, or whatever community the Christina cult is located in in South Korea. 

If I remember right Japan numbers were well below Singapore until they allowed infected passengers to wander through public transit to the airport etc.  errr... that was a stupid blunder, the 14 day quarantine did nothing but hurt the situation on the ship and they should have de-boarded and broken up the passengers and put them through another 14 day quarantine... not to do so was an extremely stupid blunder.  The one thing saving Japan is that they are a nation of mysophobes who practice a level of social distancing in their culture (i.e. money does not get handed to you they go into a change tray that can also work as a place of disinfection, no handshakes, no hugging so to speak, no public kissing, by culture any place where there is water taps, kitchen sinks, toilets tend to be kept cleaner than any other place,they are bombarded all through school (education) to be very aware of health and be very wary of transmitting germs; people who are sick regularly wear surgical masks to protect others in society; even in places of wash you don't pass a bar of soap, you take what you need but you don't use the bar to scrub down your body etc.).  So even with the blunder by their own government, the people are 'programmed' to deal with pandemic situations in about as perfect a way as possible.  Other first world nations would be wise to try and reengineer some of our social interactions - making it mandatory workplace health and safety to have anyone sick wear a mask; massive media and educational campaign to change our direct contact - i.e. handing change directly; changing greetings to do away with handshakes in favour of a small bow or something, and to extend the sick mask into the general population as expected social behaviour. 

[humbug]

46 minutes ago, Liss Camber said:

I suppose that most of you don't know that the virus, once outside of the body, does not survive long if temperatures are above 25/26°C. That is actually the case in Thailand! Just for your information. 

already there are two mutations, one stronger than the other, hot countries, Kuwait, India, uae, Saudi, Malaysia, Bahrain all reporting spikes in cases, it’s how you test, if you test 30,000 people a day, you can find maybe 25% of cases, not many people will be isolated outside in the searing heat 24hrs a day, it’s not how the world lives, this is 2020 not 220 AD

[0815]

3 hours ago, Wildliferescue said:

I have been looking for a website with lots of experts on the issue of Corona or Covid-19, but I had little luck to be honest.

 

I am so glad I finally found ThaiVisa!!!! Everyone here is an expert, a delight to get all the right info on one page. 

You were really lucky to find the TVF !
Plenty of "experts" who have answers and information about anything. ????
But wait! The very BEST is when some of the "experts" start fighting with each other (starts latest on page 2 or 3 of the posts)...

[Monkeyrobot]

I think they forgot the mention the 81 year old Australian who just returned from Thailand who tested positive.

[SunsetT]

4 hours ago, IamNoone88 said:

Why on earth would you study in Iran of all places?

Nuclear physics.

[ThailandRyan]

3 hours ago, findlay13 said:

Just reported on the Aussie news an 81 yr old who came in from Thailand has tested positive for the virus

 

Now lets add in all the people on his flight he came into contact with, then add in the service staff and the return flight full of tourists and so on.  While we are at it lets think about those on the Italians flight as well as those who came in from Iran.  It does not take a genius to add it all up.  The numbers we are being told are definitely a lie and the tip of the iceberg......

[christophe75]

1 hour ago, Jumbo1968 said:

You want every country in the world where there is Coronavirus to close their borders, the UK have more cases than Thailand now so they should close their border ?

The whole world would just down which would be disastrous all round I think. Yes quarantine every one who enters the UK from a country who have Coronavirus, get real !

 

my "get real" = pragmatism and history.

 

Closing borders / quarantine / stopping movements, that's the way humans fought contagious diseases for a few hundred years. This is the best way. The efficient way.

 

But your "get real" is simply ideology.

 

Globalists, commies, constructivists, xenophiliacs, crazies, or just plain dumbs millenials... choose your poison : the idea to close a border is just insane for those people.

It can't be.

The very idea of a border is something that trigger them.

There is zero thinking behind : just ideology.

And you summarize it perfectly with slogans : "it's impossible ! ", "we can't do it !", "get real !", "it's the 21 st century !"

 

Virus do not care about your ideology, or the economy or political correctness...

Edited March 5, 2020 by christophe75

[FritsSikkink]

Instead of spreading all sorts of nonsense, listen to an expert on this matter:

 

https://edition.cnn.com/videos/world/2020/02/17/dr-ian-lipkin-virus-hunter-china-coronavirus-full-episode-acfc-vpx.cnn

[JHolmesJr]

5 hours ago, spiekerjozef said:

3 more days and India is also on that list

 

They are headed for a S Korea style spread...they just dont know it yet.

[ukrules]

4 hours ago, NoBrainer said:

According to John Hopkins site, once a country hits 80-100 confirmed case, it looks like it doubles every 4 days until around 5000 cases and then it tapers off slightly as it continues to rise.

Thailand has not yet, (at least not yet reported), made it to the point where it quickly ramps up in number of cases. But seems to be only a matter of time now, the Genie is Out of the Bottle.

They're only reporting imported cases, if there are only imported cases then there will be no massive spread.

 

All the doomsayers were alarmed about an initial quick rise in the the number of cases in Singapore due to the hot weather down there, yet they had no explosion in new cases transmitted locally and I do tend to believe the Singapore governments numbers.

 

The weather in Singapore is similar to here in Thailand. Their cases are around 110 now and it's only been slowly increasing in Singapore so far.

 

The countries with explosive growth are all cold and still in winter.

 

[alex8912]

5 hours ago, EricTh said:

Well, if Thailand were to ban tourists from certain countries, they should be fair and ban the top 10 most risky countries. All these have more than 100 cases.

 

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

 

1. China (including HK, Macau)

2. Korea

3. Italy

4. Iran

5. Japan

6. France

7. Germany

8. Spain

9. USA

10. Singapore

 

What goes around comes around.

The real world doesn’t revolve around “ top 10” lists. Get real.

Edited March 5, 2020 by alex8912

[bkkcanuck8]

3 minutes ago, christophe75 said:

 

my "get real" = pragmatism and history.

 

Closing borders / quarantine / stopping movements, that's the way humans fought contagious diseases for a few hundred years. This is the best way. The efficient way.

 

But your "get real" is simply ideology.

 

Globalists, commies, constructivists, xenophiliacs, crazies, or just plain dumbs millenials... choose your poison : the idea to close a border is just insane for those people.

It can't be.

The very idea of a border is something that trigger them.

There is zero thinking behind : just ideology.

And you summarize it perfectly with slogans : "it's impossible ! ", "we can't do it !", "get real !", "it's the 21 st century !"

 

Virus do not care about your ideology, or the economy or political correctness...

No, how pandemics were stopped early on was the fact that people tended to live and work in a small area - with little or no movement of people and the economy did not rely on long and worldwide supply chains.   As such because the mode of transit was slow, it gave less chance to spread in territory while those that survived built up immunity effectively creating a wall for reinfection and burning making it easier to burn out without spreading worldwide.  They used quarantines for massive pandemics of some virulent diseases and it tended not to work...  it would eventually burn itself out but not before huge swaths of population on a continental scale were killed off.

[zhounan]

5 hours ago, NCC1701A said:

ironically many of the cases in the UK and EU originated from one small area in Italy. and they have now ID two variations of the virus from Italy.

and now almost full circle. 

Two fake news in a single post.

 

[bkkcanuck8]

1 minute ago, ukrules said:

They're only reporting imported cases, if there are only imported cases then there will be no massive spread.

 

All the doomsayers were alarmed about an initial quick rise in the the number of cases in Singapore due to the hot weather down there, yet they had no explosion in new cases transmitted locally and I do tend to believe the Singapore governments numbers.

 

The weather in Singapore is similar to here in Thailand. Their cases are around 110 now and it's only been slowly increasing in Singapore so far.

 

The countries with explosive growth are all cold and still in winter.

 

no massive explosion in cases because their response is on a level almost no other country has the ability or competence to do.  This has stopped it in Singapore through containment which they still have - they can trace pretty well every case to another known case and were placed in isolation.  Since they have not lost containment yet, there has been no explosion.  When eventually they do then a country moves to mitigation from containment which looks to flatten the infection curve in an attempt to keep the healthcare system from being overwhelmed.  Once a healthcare system is overwhelmed the mortality rate shoots up and the spread becomes out of control.

[ukrules]

4 minutes ago, bkkcanuck8 said:

no massive explosion in cases because their response is on a level almost no other country has the ability or competence to do.  This has stopped it in Singapore through containment which they still have - they can trace pretty well every case to another known case and were placed in isolation.  Since they have not lost containment yet, there has been no explosion.  When eventually they do then a country moves to mitigation from containment which looks to flatten the infection curve in an attempt to keep the healthcare system from being overwhelmed.  Once a healthcare system is overwhelmed the mortality rate shoots up and the spread becomes out of control.

That should have happened already but it hasn't.

[zhounan]

These nasty eat pizza, play mandolino, black mustaches Italian mobsters will now infect all Thais people perfectly healthy, as the Chinese failed to do.

 

the culprit is always someone else.

 

(I'm Italian, please understand irony)
 

[bkkcanuck8]

1 minute ago, zhounan said:

These nasty eat pizza, play mandolino, black mustaches Italian mobsters will now infect all Thais people perfectly healthy, as the Chinese failed to do.

 

the culprit is always someone else.

 

(I'm Italian, please understand irony)
 

Yeah, in China you were likely to be infected by a chinese person.

In South Korea you were likely to be infected by a South Korean person.

In Italy, you are likely to be infected by an Italian.

A pattern is developing, you are likely to be infected by someone that looks like you ????

[fruitman]

Nice picture of Thai wearing masks...the truth is totally different though, they don't wear masks...maybe 10% does..