Alcohol-based hand sanitisers declared a controlled product

[phantomfiddler]

Since alcohol apparently kills the virus, the  general population would be well advised to head for the nearest bar, to get tanked up and keep tanked up ????

[Nyezhov]

2 hours ago, keith101 said:

To many people making money ?

 

Its called free enterprise .

No its called gouging. 

[Nyezhov]

43 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

I'd be worried if 60+ and even more so with any of the conditions, even more worried if in Cambodia especially siem reap

Well you are not me. Life is too short to worry. Gimme Siem Reap over the BTS any day.

[Misterwhisper]

Just buy yourself a large bottle of "lao khao" for 70 Baht and use it to sanitize your hands. Gonna last forever and that's the only thing that stuff really is good for anyway. Just make sure you keep it away from open flames.

[jany123]

2 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

i have a problem with these hand sanitizers you carry around. Say you have Corona virus on your hand after touching something, you get your gel out and clean your hands, virus free but no, the hand sanitizer has been touched by Corona so it's still there when you put it away and back on your hand

Then vigorously rub your bottle with appropriately coated hand, before tucking it away... easy ????

[madmitch]

Alcohol-based gel; can you buy it between 2 and 5pm?

[lemonjelly]

3 hours ago, URMySunshine said:

No it has to be at least 70% grain liquor would be nearer 40.

Still better than nothing, the virus has a lipid (fatty) wall, the local moonshine might be enough to cause it some havoc, it’s we’ll known for it.

[Benmart]

4 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

i have a problem with these hand sanitizers you carry around. Say you have Corona virus on your hand after touching something, you get your gel out and clean your hands, virus free but no, the hand sanitizer has been touched by Corona so it's still there when you put it away and back on your hand

This is true for those who find a problem for every solution.

[Grumpy John]

I've got a bottle of Colloidal Silver in the cupboard.  Is that any good as disinfectant. 

[alien365]

4 hours ago, tomacht8 said:

Alcohol-based hand sanitisers declared a controlled product.
What use has the declaration if you cannot get it?
We have been trying to buy a bottle for a week.
Everywhere: No have.

Just been to 7/11 and they have the 400ml bottles at 179baht at the counters. Nobody in the queue, including me, bought one.

[White Christmas13]

4 hours ago, sammieuk1 said:

Wine is a controlled product in my house due to blatant over pricing to????

well I pity you I just bought 5 liters today for 320 baht ( of course not in Thailand )

[scubascuba3]

18 minutes ago, Benmart said:

This is true for those who find a problem for every solution.

Maybe you don't think enough. Are you saying there will be no virus on the bottle after touching it?

[White Christmas13]

1 hour ago, madmitch said:

Alcohol-based gel; can you buy it between 2 and 5pm?

NO

[FarFlungFalang]

3 hours ago, steven100 said:

I wear these when out ... and throw them after use.

I'm a Cheap Charlie and wash and reuse the only pair I found in the bin at the local clinic.

[from the home of CC]

5 hours ago, keith101 said:

To many people making money ?

 

Its called free enterprise .

nah, it's called gouging people in a potential crisis, akin to grave robbing IMO..

[Moonlover]

5 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

i have a problem with these hand sanitizers you carry around. Say you have Corona virus on your hand after touching something, you get your gel out and clean your hands, virus free but no, the hand sanitizer has been touched by Corona so it's still there when you put it away and back on your hand

It's true about just about anything and (almost) everything. Ever stopped and wondered 'who was the last person to use this ATM?'

[NanLaew]

1 hour ago, Moonlover said:

Ever stopped and wondered 'who was the last person to use this ATM?'

No, but I would guess the question flits momentarily across the minds of some bar girls as they totter down the street on the arm of their latest, ageing, foreign Lothario.

[wwest5829]

7 hours ago, keith101 said:

To many people making money ?

 

Its called free enterprise .

It’s called unregulated capitalism. Whatever th3 market will bear. The Chinese curse, “may you live in interesting times”, comes to mind ...

[justin case]

saturday day night live had some common sense

 

hand sanitzer kills 99,99 percent of germs

 

what happens with the 0,01 percent

 

seen as a joke

 

but HUMANS are more bacteria than human cells

 

you get an overgrowth of the dangerous bacteria that survived and now can multiply

 

 

GOOD OLD SOAP BAR is much better than this alcohol fake thing

 

but most people will not get it anyway, that people have a lot of bacteria in/on their body,that protects them

 

 

 

[Youlike]

7 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

i have a problem with these hand sanitizers you carry around. Say you have Corona virus on your hand after touching something, you get your gel out and clean your hands, virus free but no, the hand sanitizer has been touched by Corona so it's still there when you put it away and back on your hand

Well than you also rub some on that sanitizer bottle, it ain't so complicated..

[justin case]

7 hours ago, NCC1701A said:

stocked up on paper towels, disposable gloves, Kleenex, and Dettol concentrate and drinking water again yesterday.

 

1) use bum gun and shake ass dry, no need for paper

2) buy a water filter = in stead of many bottles per day, you can have 30-50 liter of drinking water per day if you want

[Dumbastheycome]

Alcohol  based  hand cleaners are less effective than a simple  bar of cheap soap and water. Feed the  frenzy  fools!

[lemonjelly]

2 minutes ago, Dumbastheycome said:

Alcohol  based  hand cleaners are less effective than a simple  bar of cheap soap and water. Feed the  frenzy  fools!

Ok, fill your pockets with soap and water and use those when you’re outdoors, let us know how it goes. ????

[metisdead]

Troll posts and replies have been removed. 

[Dumbastheycome]

52 minutes ago, lemonjelly said:

Ok, fill your pockets with soap and water and use those when you’re outdoors, let us know how it goes. ????

Bar of soap in a plastic bag in pocket,  any water source such as public  amenities, or  a  percentage of  the ever present bottle of drinking water? what  issue? HUAMS !

[DannyCarlton]

11 hours ago, Dumbastheycome said:

Alcohol  based  hand cleaners are less effective than a simple  bar of cheap soap and water. Feed the  frenzy  fools!

Science based or spreading malicious misinformation? Links please.

[mfd101]

11 hours ago, Dumbastheycome said:

Alcohol  based  hand cleaners are less effective than a simple  bar of cheap soap and water. Feed the  frenzy  fools!

Yes, that is the medical advice in Oz as reported in this week's newspapers. Use good ol' soap, either solid or liquid, and wash carefully for half a minute. Does the job better than sanitizer.

 

But of course you still need a sanitizer in bottle for when you're on the move - atm, BTS, border entry ...

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

19 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

but having just tried it the gel evaporates off quickly and you don't smother the bottle to clean it. Maybe moral to the story is sanitize the bottle also at the same time

 

The way it's typically done is the bottle is a standup pump dispenser bottle you, or a store etc., sets on a counter/table etc. You walk up, press down the pump button with one hand to squirt the gel onto your other hand, and then rub both hands together. So in that case, you're never actually holding the bottle with unclean hands.

Edited March 8, 2020 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[Don Mega]

I wash my hands with mouthwash.

[Tayaout]

46 minutes ago, DannyCarlton said:

Science based or spreading malicious misinformation? Links please.

The study is a bit dense: https://msphere.asm.org/content/4/5/e00474-19

 

Here is a easier read: http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2019/09/hand-sanitizer-shown-less-effective-hand-washing-against-flu

 

I found more studies who reached the same conclusion. If you read the CDC guidelines they specify to use only alcool gel if no soap and water is available. In another study that I read they even found that hand rubbing with water and no soap is faster than alcool gel to sanitize hands. From memory it takes about 30s to sanitize hands with water and soap vs 4min for alcool gel. For the alcool gel to be effective the hands need to stay wet for that 4min.

Edited March 8, 2020 by Tayaout