Americans will have access to more than 2,000 labs for coronavirus testing, Pence says

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Americans will have access to more than 2,000 labs for coronavirus testing, Pence says

 

FILE PHOTO: U.S. Vice President Mike Pence, who heads the government's coronavirus task force, addresses the press following a tour of the 3M company headquarters in Maplewood, Minnesota, U.S. March 5, 2020. REUTERS/Nick Pfosi

 

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. Vice President Mike Pence promised on Sunday that Americans would have access in the days ahead to more than 2,000 laboratories capable of processing coronavirus tests, and a leading expert said the country would launch a new phase of testing for the fast-spreading disease.

 

Speaking to reporters at the White House, Pence also said he and President Donald Trump would brief U.S. state governors on Monday on the widening testing amid a fast-escalating global health crisis.

 

The Trump administration has faced criticism in recent weeks for what has widely been seen as a slow gearing up of testing for the coronavirus.

 

With limited testing available, U.S. officials have recorded nearly 3,000 cases and 62 deaths, and large segments of daily activities have been upended across the country. Globally, more than 162,000 people are infected and over 6,000 have died.

 

U.S. Assistant Health Secretary Brett Giroir said the United States may have 1.9 million "high-throughput" tests available this week.

 

"That is a real game changer for us," Giroir said of the increased number of testing labs due to come on line.

 

Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, and the nation's top infectious diseases expert, said the United States was moving into a new phase of testing.

 

(Reporting by Matt Spetalnick and Humeyra Pamuk; Editing by Peter Cooney)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2020-03-16

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[AlexRich]

Beware of what you wish for. The numbers infected will be horrendous, and Trump’s incompetence will not be disguised by cries of “fake news”. Shut just got real Donny.

[J Town]

Will this be like the tax break for the middle class that only really rich people got?

[spiekerjozef]

Why you need 2,000 labs if you only test a handful of people everyday?

Edited March 16, 2020 by spiekerjozef

[bristolboy]

How testing failures allowed coronavirus to sweep the U.S.

"Why the United States declined to use the WHO test, even temporarily as a bridge until the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention could produce its own test, remains a perplexing question and the key to the Trump administration’s failure to provide enough tests to identify the coronavirus infections before they could be passed on, according to POLITICO interviews with dozens of viral-disease experts, former officials and some officials within the administration’s health agencies.
The slowness of the testing regimen — which, administration officials acknowledged this week, is still not producing enough tests to meet the national demand — was the first, and most sweeping, of many failures...

But neither the CDC nor the coronavirus task force chaired by Vice President Mike Pence would say who made the decision to forgo the WHO test and instead begin a protracted process of producing an American test, one that got delayed by manufacturing problems, possible lab contamination and logistical delays."
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/06/coronavirus-testing-failure-123166

Edited just now by bristolboy

[xylophone]

3 hours ago, AlexRich said:

Beware of what you wish for. The numbers infected will be horrendous, and Trump’s incompetence will not be disguised by cries of “fake news”. Shut just got real Donny.

trump lying and trying the usual deflection rhetoric on this............

 

"The USA was never set up for this, just look at the catastrophe of the H1N1 Swine Flu (Biden in charge, 17,000 people lost, very late response time)," Trump tweeted.

 

In fact, under the Obama administration, diagnostic tests for the 2009 swine flu outbreak were approved and shipped less than two weeks after the H1N1 virus was identified and a day before the first US death.

 

Why the continual lying by trump?? As the saying goes……he can't help it, it’s in his nature.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

3 hours ago, webfact said:

U.S. Vice President Mike Pence promised

 

3 hours ago, webfact said:

U.S. Assistant Health Secretary Brett Giroir said the United States may have

 

Seems to me we've heard these kinds promises before from the Trump Admin... ones that didn't jive with reality and didn't end up becoming reality. Right along with Trump's "anyone who wants to get tested can get tested" lie.

 

But even if they actually deliver on the above, they're weeks/months late at this point, and who knows how many lost lives short.

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

37 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

How testing failures allowed coronavirus to sweep the U.S.

 That's a good article and a key issue of how things have gone so wrong in the U.S.

 

But I'd counter, it's not chiefly "testing failures" that allowed the virus to sweep the U.S., but instead, failures of political will and policy-making at the highest levels of U.S. govt. (the clueless Trump Admin.) that left the U.S. adrift amidst the country's largest public health crisis in decades.

 

The failures to test effectively are just one symptom of the larger political disease that is Trump and Co.  Lying, downplaying, disregarding, delaying -- all in hopes of avoiding harm to the great one's re-election chances.  Along with an unhealthy dose of... he knows better than all the experts on every topic under the sun.

 

 

Edited March 16, 2020 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[Roadman]

26 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

How testing failures allowed coronavirus to sweep the U.S.

"Why the United States declined to use the WHO test, even temporarily as a bridge until the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention could produce its own test, remains a perplexing question and the key to the Trump administration’s failure to provide enough tests to identify the coronavirus infections before they could be passed on, according to POLITICO interviews with dozens of viral-disease experts, former officials and some officials within the administration’s health agencies.
The slowness of the testing regimen — which, administration officials acknowledged this week, is still not producing enough tests to meet the national demand — was the first, and most sweeping, of many failures...

But neither the CDC nor the coronavirus task force chaired by Vice President Mike Pence would say who made the decision to forgo the WHO test and instead begin a protracted process of producing an American test, one that got delayed by manufacturing problems, possible lab contamination and logistical delays."
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/06/coronavirus-testing-failure-123166

Edited just now by bristolboy

Don't know. But as soon as Nancy Pelosi implemented a policy to put a bill to the House to make testing free for every American you can bet your bottom dollar that the knuckle dragger POTUS support team realised that they needed to get in front of the opposition to ensure the biggest ever joke of American Politics with his childish comments of we have "biggily" and "even Bigglier plans" to combat the "it will go woof and disappear" virus idiot comments of last week. I cant wait till the Yankee elections this year and really wishing for the Democrats to sweep the Senate to go with the House and leave this absolute joke of an idiot high and dry for what will be the biggest entertainment show of the next four years. 

I enjoy American politics as although we have an absolute clueless hollow head of an PM in Jacinda Ardern the reality is even in a small country but relative in an economy scale she can't do as much damage as this American moron can do. I wonder if the next President of the US will be yet another Trump, Ophrey Winfried, Kim CarTrashCan or what ever idiot TV bafoon is the favour of the day. 

It really shows that to vote one show be subject to an IQ test, a test of are you capable of doing a basic household budget to at least understand the basics of economics, and do you understand the difference between the brain dumbing TV <deleted> you pour into your brain endlessly and the real world reality. 

[metisdead]

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[paddypower]

Trump wanted 3 billion. Dem. Congress (you know - the do-nothing Dems) gace him 8 billion. Trumps reaction is - 'I want zero interest rates - the markets will be happy'. Listen up - the stock markets go down/up/down, because, essentially ...they does not trust the White House. A speech writer for O' Bama, upon reading the text of Trump's Address to the Nation, reacted with: 'we're all plucked'.

[JimmyTheMook]

They promised a million tests 2 weeks ago, where are they?

 

 

[Mavideol]

15 minutes ago, JimmyTheMook said:

They promised a million tests 2 weeks ago, where are they?

 

 

not enough labs.... they always find an excuse, always somebody's else fault 555

[Proboscis]

6 hours ago, AlexRich said:

Beware of what you wish for. The numbers infected will be horrendous, and Trump’s incompetence will not be disguised by cries of “fake news”. Shut just got real Donny.

But if you don't test, you will end up like any of the countries currently in lockdown, with hospitals over-run and not enough respiratory support to go around, with people dying in their thousands or, if things continue to go bad, into their hundreds of thousands.

 

There is a severe economic problem with not testing - it is that many key employees, including doctors and nurses, will be in quarantine when they should be deployed. A test would release this resource.

[ThaiBunny]

Testing: "The test itself, by the way, is not perfect. The swab may not be taken in the right way, and sometimes it turns up negative. The throat swab turns up positive quite a lot of the time. But it's a false negative some of the time. Sputum is much more accurate, but not everyone has sputum to cough up to test."

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-16/coronavirus-questions-on-pregnancy-asthma-pools-and-schools/12058926

[AlexRich]

44 minutes ago, Proboscis said:

But if you don't test, you will end up like any of the countries currently in lockdown, with hospitals over-run and not enough respiratory support to go around, with people dying in their thousands or, if things continue to go bad, into their hundreds of thousands.

 

There is a severe economic problem with not testing - it is that many key employees, including doctors and nurses, will be in quarantine when they should be deployed. A test would release this resource.

Where did I say you shouldn’t test? If I were Donny I’d call you out on fake news.

 

Trump was boasting that the US had this under control, with low numbers. The testing rollout is going to blow that lie out of the water. That was my point.

 

But the problem now is that if this is widespread in the community, testing is far too late. Think of the Human Resources you will need to trace contacts.

 

 

[metisdead]

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[Tropposurfer]

50 odd states divided by 2000 multiplied by the upward curve of infections multiplied by the obsessive narrative of US people to be independent and decide for themselves ?????????????????????????????

[Srikcir]

5 hours ago, ThaiBunny said:

Testing: "The test itself, by the way, is not perfect. The swab may not be taken in the right way, and sometimes it turns up negative. The throat swab turns up positive quite a lot of the time. But it's a false negative some of the time. Sputum is much more accurate, but not everyone has sputum to cough up to test."

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-16/coronavirus-questions-on-pregnancy-asthma-pools-and-schools/12058926

There is now at least two different strains of coronavirus: L & S. It's unknown if they cause different severity of the disease. This could complicate both testing, treatment and development of a vaccine. 

[Srikcir]

9 hours ago, spiekerjozef said:

Why you need 2,000 labs if you only test a handful of people everyday?

What are the labs going to process when there is a shortage of test kits? Trump made the decision not to use WHO approved kits being used in S. Korea, EU, China. He wants US made test kits. 

[Crazy Alex]

9 hours ago, J Town said:

Will this be like the tax break for the middle class that only really rich people got?

Someone needs to read up on the Trump tax cuts. I'll make this short as to respect the actual topic, but yes, when you pay exponentially more then you'll save more. Given the bottom 40% of earners collectively pay ZERO federal income tax, I'm not sure how much more of a tax break they are supposed to get. Do tell.

[Crazy Alex]

1 minute ago, Srikcir said:

What are the labs going to process when there is a shortage of test kits? Trump made the decision not to use WHO approved kits being used in S. Korea, EU, China. He wants US made test kits. 

Who can blame Trump for that? WHO is a useless organization. I could see desperate, third world countries relying them since they have no other options, that's about it.

[bristolboy]

1 hour ago, Crazy Alex said:

Who can blame Trump for that? WHO is a useless organization. I could see desperate, third world countries relying them since they have no other options, that's about it.

Now we know who advised Trump not to use the WHO test kits. And I'm sure your dismissal of their usefulness is based on evidence and not on mere preconceived beliefs.

Edited March 16, 2020 by bristolboy

[Redline]

https://apnews.com/ce014d94b64e98b7203b873e56f80e9a

 

Trump's critical eror~or Boltons

Edited March 16, 2020 by Redline

[Redline]

14 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 That's a good article and a key issue of how things have gone so wrong in the U.S.

 

But I'd counter, it's not chiefly "testing failures" that allowed the virus to sweep the U.S., but instead, failures of political will and policy-making at the highest levels of U.S. govt. (the clueless Trump Admin.) that left the U.S. adrift amidst the country's largest public health crisis in decades.

 

The failures to test effectively are just one symptom of the larger political disease that is Trump and Co.  Lying, downplaying, disregarding, delaying -- all in hopes of avoiding harm to the great one's re-election chances.  Along with an unhealthy dose of... he knows better than all the experts on every topic under the sun.

 

 

https://apnews.com/ce014d94b64e98b7203b873e56f80e9a

this

[Redline]

4 hours ago, Crazy Alex said:

The 12,000 people who died from swine flu are NOT impressed with how the Obama cartel handled the swine flu. For starters, do you recall hearing about any travel restrictions from Mexico, where the virus started its journey to the US? And even if there were, they were apparently ineffective.

 

6 hours ago, Crazy Alex said:

Who can blame Trump for that? WHO is a useless organization. I could see desperate, third world countries relying them since they have no other options, that's about it.

https://apnews.com/ce014d94b64e98b7203b873e56f80e9a

 

Incompetence 

[Redline]

11 hours ago, AlexRich said:

Where did I say you shouldn’t test? If I were Donny I’d call you out on fake news.

 

Trump was boasting that the US had this under control, with low numbers. The testing rollout is going to blow that lie out of the water. That was my point.

 

But the problem now is that if this is widespread in the community, testing is far too late. Think of the Human Resources you will need to trace contacts.

 

 

https://apnews.com/ce014d94b64e98b7203b873e56f80e9a

 

This would have helped big time

[Redline]

15 hours ago, xylophone said:

trump lying and trying the usual deflection rhetoric on this............

 

"The USA was never set up for this, just look at the catastrophe of the H1N1 Swine Flu (Biden in charge, 17,000 people lost, very late response time)," Trump tweeted.

 

In fact, under the Obama administration, diagnostic tests for the 2009 swine flu outbreak were approved and shipped less than two weeks after the H1N1 virus was identified and a day before the first US death.

 

Why the continual lying by trump?? As the saying goes……he can't help it, it’s in his nature.

https://apnews.com/ce014d94b64e98b7203b873e56f80e9a

 

It was set up after that~then dismantled a few years ago

[pegman]

To put this in  perspective Canada and the USA has the longest border in the world. Trade agreements have made their  economies intertwined. The USA has 10x the population but Canada has conducted a few thousand more virus tests. Today the USA is at >60 deaths and Canada has 1. Leadership matters.

[lannarebirth]

27 minutes ago, Redline said:

 

https://apnews.com/ce014d94b64e98b7203b873e56f80e9a

 

Incompetence 

Malevolence.