Thailand reports 30 new coronavirus cases, total of 177, official says

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Thailand reports 30 new coronavirus cases, total of 177, official says

 

People wear protective face masks due to the coronavirus outbreak, as they line up at counters in a super market in Bangkok, Thailand March 16, 2020. REUTERS/Soe Zeya Tun

 

BANGKOK (Reuters) - Thailand reported 30 new coronavirus cases on Tuesday, raising the total to 177, Sukhum Kanchanaphimai, permanent secretary of the Ministry of Public Health told a news conference.

 

Eleven of the new cases are connected to a crowded boxing match that saw a large number of coronavirus cases, while other cases are those that worked closely with foreigners, Sukhum said.

 

Most of the cases, 70% to 80%, in Thailand are recorded in Bangkok, he said.

 

Thailand has recorded one coronavirus fatality and 41 patients have recovered and returned home.

 

(Reporting by Panarat Thepgumpanat and Panu Wongcha-um; Editing by Christian Schmollinger)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2020-03-17

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[buanmeerugsaa]

The WHO said every government must Test Test Test. 
 

If they don’t, there is no way of identifying where the infections are Concentrated and of isolating the virus. 
 

Are you listening Prayut?

[bangkokfrog]

15 minutes ago, webfact said:

while other cases are those that worked closely with foreigners, Sukhum said

This guy is obviously looking for a promotion from his xenophobic boss. Yes, blame it on those filthy unwashed foreigners who refuse to wear masks. But wait... if the foreigners are the major spreaders, why haven't they figured more prominently among the infected? I guess we can't let logic get in the way of a good foreigner put-down story.

Edited March 17, 2020 by bangkokfrog

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Thailand sees sharp rise in new Covid-19 cases

By The Nation

 

 

The number of confirmed new Covid-19 cases rose sharply by 30, Dr Sukhum Karnchanapimai, permanent secretary at the Ministry of Public Health, said on Tuesday (March 17).

 

The sharp increase in cases took the total number of new coronavirus infections in Thailand to 177.

 

Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30384227

 

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[Chazar]

deputy agriculture minister tests  positive, all say a prayer  pls????

[robblok]

21 minutes ago, bangkokfrog said:

This guy is obviously looking for a promotion from his xenophobic boss. Yes, blame it on those filthy unwashed foreigners who refuse to wear masks. But wait... if the foreigners are the major spreaders, why haven't they figured more prominently among the infected? I guess we can't let logic get in the way of a good foreigner put-down story.

Guess your anti Thai bril is coloring your vision.

 

The only reason they want to put it on foreigners is not xenofobia but the fact that if its Thais they will have to admit it has reached stage 3. They are trying to prevent that. 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

From the general description provided on the new cases, I'd strongly imagine that most if not all of the new cases involve Thai nationals as opposed to non-Chinese foreigners.

 

The number of cases confirmed by the government here involving western foreigners, the last time I saw any breakdown on that, was just a very few.

 

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Three infected foreign nationals are also reported in today’s briefing, but the health official did not specify which country they came from.

 

https://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/crimecourtscalamity/2020/03/17/new-cluster-of-30-patients-linked-to-boxing-stadium/

 

So the above comment would suggest 27 of the 30 latest cases were Thais.... And of the other 3, no distinctions between China/Japan/Korea vs western foreigners.

 

PS - The Thai DDC did a confirmed case nationalities update in their March 15 daily situation update when the confirmed case total was 114... At that point, they said:

 

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In terms of nationality, 26 cases are Chinese, 78 are Thai, one is Italian, one is British, one is Singaporean, two are Japanese, one is French Guinea.

 

So as I said above, Thai and Chinese account for the vast majority of all confirmed cases announced by the Thai authorities thus far, and western foreigners just a few.

 

 

Edited March 17, 2020 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

15 minutes ago, Chazar said:

deputy agriculture minister tests  positive, all say a prayer  pls????

 

The news reports say he tested NEGATIVE, not positive.

 

https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30384219?utm_source=slide_relate&utm_medium=internal_referral

 

[JCP108]

4 minutes ago, robblok said:

Guess your anti Thai bril is coloring your vision.

 

The only reason they want to put it on foreigners is not xenofobia but the fact that if its Thais they will have to admit it has reached stage 3. They are trying to prevent that. 

I think it's both.

[CraigInBangkok]

12 minutes ago, christophe75 said:

You can stretch the numbers anywhere and anyhow... it doesn't make any sense.

I totally agree ... I look at the numbers and I see how things have flattened out in china and s.korea after a 3 week peak and I struggle to find reasons to panic other than news from governments and other media outlets 

[robblok]

8 minutes ago, JCP108 said:

I think it's both.

could be.. but i think they are really trying to prevent being labeled stage 3... and that means blame foreigners.

[christophe75]

1 minute ago, CraigInBangkok said:

I totally agree ... I look at the numbers and I see how things have flattened out in china and s.korea after a 3 week peak and I struggle to find reasons to panic other than news from governments and other media outlets 

 

Exactly.

 

First, it was rational to be extra cautious, because we didn't have a lot of data, the virus was "new", and what was happening in China was, well, scary.

 

Fair enough. And I posted several messages here in that way.

 

But now, we have to face the reality.

And the reality does not match the global circus that is organized under our eyes.

 

There is a complete cognitive dissonance.

 

This is really bad. And scary. Not this virus (a mild flu, but highly contagious) but :

-the madness of humanity

 

-or the madness and criminal insanity of a few groups who pursue some specific agendas.

 

Choose your poison...

[DLock]

5 minutes ago, CraigInBangkok said:

I totally agree ... I look at the numbers and I see how things have flattened out in china and s.korea after a 3 week peak and I struggle to find reasons to panic other than news from governments and other media outlets 

 

They peaked because of shutting down the country, isolating, quarantine and most importantly, testing...

 

South Korea did an amazing job. Testing 20,000 people per day.

 

Thailand is doing none of these things, and they know things are about to go more like Iran than South Korea here.

 

So those "flattening" numbers didn't happen by luck, accident or the warm summer winds blowing it away...they are result of smart and swift action. Thailand had that same opportunity and missed it.

 

Now they panic.

[CraigInBangkok]

2 minutes ago, DLock said:

 

They peaked because of shutting down the country, isolating, quarantine and most importantly, testing...

 

South Korea did an amazing job. Testing 20,000 people per day.

 

Thailand is doing none of these things, and they know things are about to go more like Iran than South Korea here.

 

So those "flattening" numbers didn't happen by luck, accident or the warm summer winds blowing it away...they are result of smart and swift action. Thailand had that same opportunity and missed it.

 

Now they panic.

I get your point but i also struggle to believe that that China really managed a total lockdown of billions of people .... after all they were still flooding into Thailand

[ThailandRyan]

44 minutes ago, buanmeerugsaa said:

The WHO said every government must Test Test Test. 
 

If they don’t, there is no way of identifying where the infections are Concentrated and of isolating the virus. 
 

Are you listening Prayut?

No he is not....its 100% under control remember, as he now speaks from an undisclosed location, ie...a bunker possibly....

[Traubert]

44 minutes ago, bangkokfrog said:

This guy is obviously looking for a promotion from his xenophobic boss. Yes, blame it on those filthy unwashed foreigners who refuse to wear masks. But wait... if the foreigners are the major spreaders, why haven't they figured more prominently among the infected? I guess we can't let logic get in the way of a good foreigner put-down story.

Because foreigners arent all white. Calm down. Foreigners means people who aren't Thai, ok?

 

It's the white ones that are filthy and unwashed, not all of them.

[DLock]

3 minutes ago, CraigInBangkok said:

I get your point but i also struggle to believe that that China really managed a total lockdown of billions of people .... after all they were still flooding into Thailand

They didn't lock down billions of people, just the epicenter and key cities.

 

..and those Chinese flooding into Thailand are part of the problem.

 

Thailand has been well exposed to the virus for quite some time. 

 

Until they offer free and convenient testing (and tracking of connections), we will never know the extent...right now it suits the Government's narrative to not do the testing ....but sooner or later (probably sooner), it has to happen.

[kingstonkid]

Okay so 122 people in Thailand are sick.  What is the big deal????

What I want to knonw is how many of these people are so sick they have to be hospitalized and put in ICU or have died.

We all get the flu or a cold.  People die of the flu also if they have other medical issues. 

 

I will guarantee that Thailand will have over 1000 people diagnosed with Corona virus.  The question is how many of them die.

 

Are we everytime someone gets a cough going to react it makes no sense to me.

 

BTW yes I am over 60 and yes I am Type 2 and your point is??????

[Traubert]

11 minutes ago, DLock said:

 

They peaked because of shutting down the country, isolating, quarantine and most importantly, testing...

 

South Korea did an amazing job. Testing 20,000 people per day.

 

Thailand is doing none of these things, and they know things are about to go more like Iran than South Korea here.

 

So those "flattening" numbers didn't happen by luck, accident or the warm summer winds blowing it away...they are result of smart and swift action. Thailand had that same opportunity and missed it.

 

Now they panic.

China stopped testing on request on 14th February and went to clinical diagnosis. Testing is a waste of time, resource and money. You could catch it from the nurse that tests you. The result only stands for the time you were tested. Test only those showing extreme symptoms.

[hottrader77]

52 minutes ago, bangkokfrog said:

This guy is obviously looking for a promotion from his xenophobic boss. Yes, blame it on those filthy unwashed foreigners who refuse to wear masks. But wait... if the foreigners are the major spreaders, why haven't they figured more prominently among the infected? I guess we can't let logic get in the way of a good foreigner put-down story.

same same but different 

[ThailandRyan]

3 minutes ago, kingstonkid said:

Okay so 122 people in Thailand are sick.  What is the big deal????

What I want to knonw is how many of these people are so sick they have to be hospitalized and put in ICU or have died.

We all get the flu or a cold.  People die of the flu also if they have other medical issues. 

 

I will guarantee that Thailand will have over 1000 people diagnosed with Corona virus.  The question is how many of them die.

 

Are we everytime someone gets a cough going to react it makes no sense to me.

 

BTW yes I am over 60 and yes I am Type 2 and your point is??????

Its now 177 from what they report not 122...the numbers are growing, times it by 10 and you probably have a good figure or even x20....plus the diagnosis of viral pneumonia is being used and they are not testing as they should....

Edited March 17, 2020 by ThailandRyan

[sahibji]

it is difficult to understand the figures. it was originally claimed thailand was totally prepared for handling the corona virus.

[Traubert]

6 minutes ago, kingstonkid said:

Okay so 122 people in Thailand are sick.  What is the big deal????

What I want to knonw is how many of these people are so sick they have to be hospitalized and put in ICU or have died.

We all get the flu or a cold.  People die of the flu also if they have other medical issues. 

 

I will guarantee that Thailand will have over 1000 people diagnosed with Corona virus.  The question is how many of them die.

 

Are we everytime someone gets a cough going to react it makes no sense to me.

 

BTW yes I am over 60 and yes I am Type 2 and your point is??????

One.

[CraigInBangkok]

Just now, DLock said:

Until they offer free and convenient testing (and tracking of connections), we will never know the extent...right now it suits the Government's narrative to not do the testing ....but sooner or later (probably sooner), it has to happen.

I do agree with you about testing and the dodgy government(I ll put all of them into this category) but I still see no reasons to panic ... when you really look at the numbers they are not nearly as scary as they are being made out to be. Obviously I am not saying to go around and lick hand rails and take as much precaution as you can but I can't help but feel its a massive overreaction when you consider normal yearly death rates .

[rabas]

3 minutes ago, Traubert said:

China stopped testing on request on 14th February and went to clinical diagnosis. Testing is a waste of time, resource and money. You could catch it from the nurse that tests you. The result only stands for the time you were tested. Test only those showing extreme symptoms.

China added clinical diagnosis to the existing nCoV2019 testing because confirmed cases was too low, because testing was missing many cases.  However, positive nCoV2019 test results are much more reliable than clinical diagnosis. The combined the two.

[kingstonkid]

8 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Its now 177 from what they report not 122...the numbers are growing, times it by 10 and you probably have a good figure or even x20....plus the diagnosis of viral pneumonia is being used and they are not testing as they should....

Again Ryan my point is that there are a lot of people getting sick.  Yes but there are always a lot of people getting the flu or viral pneumonia.  How many actualy die is the important number.

 

Yes this can make you sick.  Yes if you have health problems it can killyou, BUT so can the hot weather that we will get next month.  Should we immediately enact a rule tht all old or sick people must stay in hoimes that are air condidtioned

[Artisi]

1 hour ago, Captain_Bob said:

Breaking News! 

30 people died today on Thai roads, 80% on motorbikes most of them drunk with no helmet or license.  ???? 

If you doubled the 30, you might be closer to the real number. 

[ThailandRyan]

3 minutes ago, kingstonkid said:

Again Ryan my point is that there are a lot of people getting sick.  Yes but there are always a lot of people getting the flu or viral pneumonia.  How many actualy die is the important number.

 

Yes this can make you sick.  Yes if you have health problems it can killyou, BUT so can the hot weather that we will get next month.  Should we immediately enact a rule tht all old or sick people must stay in hoimes that are air condidtioned

I do understand your point, however the point I make is that there are no stats indicating how many have died from dengue or Viral pneumonia which could be possibly actually COVID because a test was not conducted....

[CraigInBangkok]

6 minutes ago, HOAX said:

1918 Spanish flu, also a Coronavirus, that Covid-19 is a direct descended from, killed between 50-100 million in a few months, 2,5-5% of the human population, yet it had only a 2,5% fatality rate while the Covid-19 has so far had a fatality rate between 0.25-12.2% (varies, but mostly between 3.4-8.6%). SARS had 11% and MERS had 34.4%, both Coronaviruses closely related to Covid-19. Viruses are among the oldest life forms on the planet, they're survivalists, specialists, has a short life span to evolve rapidly, mutates, copies and enters your genome, manipulates cells, but hey, we got Christophe75, so no worries... he got the expertise we've all been waiting for.

your covid fatality rates are based off confirmed cases ...the "experts" say 10x to 20x more actually have the virus so you have to divide by those numbers to get somewhere close to the real mortality rate, right?

[JCP108]

7 minutes ago, CraigInBangkok said:

your covid fatality rates are based off confirmed cases ...the "experts" say 10x to 20x more actually have the virus so you have to divide by those numbers to get somewhere close to the real mortality rate, right?

No. To be more accurate, if you include those extra cases, you would also have to include the extra deaths that have been attributed to other causes (like Dengue), too.