stament Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 A friend spoke about these motorbikes and I searched for some reviews but the threads were very old and said parts were difficult to get hold of. Few Qs if you don't mind 1/ are these motorbikes reliable? T 2/ are parts more readily available now than a few years back? 3) what is the quality like? They seem quite cheap so guessing the quality isn't up to a Honda, Yamaha, etc. Also I read they are difficult to swell second hand but just wondering if ok for a bike in the village, nothing fancy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 1 don't know never owned one. 2. Parts and finding a mechanic to work on them might be a bit difficult..however I believe that a lot of parts where "copied" from the big 4 bike manufactures so the engine maybe a copy of a Honda and most parts fit you just have to find out which engine was copied and order parts from Honda..almost everything else could be swapped out for nearest matching parts as and when they fail. 3. not brilliant but could be worse. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 Zongshen is the company that makes Ryuka motorcycles. They are a cheap Chinese made bike and as you can imagine, the quality in middle class. Obviously, not up to Honda, Yamaha etc .... Remember the sayinyg ' you get what you pay for ' that goes without saying with Ryuka. Nuts and bolts come loose after time, fittings are sloppy, and getting parts is difficult although not impossible. Thousands of Ryuka bikes have been sold in Thailand as the price is lower than other brands and the budget suits many. Parts inside the engine are all chinese made and can break after years of use. After time, the engine won't start as easy as the more expensive brands due to wear and tear. Would I buy one .. ? if that's my budget and it is suffice for the job then possibly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktm jeff Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 Ryuka , and GPX are both well respected companies by those who know. They use Chinese components - sane as Honda etc , but the finished product quality isnt as high as Honda etc. They are however much cheaper. If you only want a new cheap runabout , the classic Ryuka CUB (similar to Honda cub ) is from 30K Baht. The Honda super cub is 110K Baht. Thats some difference. Is the Honda better. Yes. Is it worth the extra . Depends on how you feel about brand names , hype and your planned use. Any decent mechanic can keep these type of bikes going for years. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveK Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 42 minutes ago, ktm jeff said: The Honda super cub is 110K Baht. It's about 45k! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktm jeff Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 1 hour ago, SteveK said: It's about 45k! My bad. 2018/2019 price is 89,000 Baht. Bargain ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post brokenbone Posted March 20, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 20, 2020 if it was me, never in my life would i buy it, i would buy a 2nd hand honda/yamaha, every last mechanic on every last soi has the spares when its needed. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktm jeff Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 19 hours ago, brokenbone said: if it was me, never in my life would i buy it, i would buy a 2nd hand honda/yamaha, every last mechanic on every last soi has the spares when its needed. And this is an option. Brand new bike , or 5/6 year old Honda. Same parts could fit both. Only one has had someone put a "Honda" sticker on the fuel tank when it was assembled/built. In whatever factory assembled/built it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papa al Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 22 hours ago, ktm jeff said: My bad. 2018/2019 price is 89,000 Baht. Bargain ! HONDA SUPER CUB ฮอนด้า ซูเปอร์ คัพ (สตาร์ทมือ/ดรัมเบรกหน้า) ราคา47,390. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post canthai55 Posted March 22, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 22, 2020 Here's a Cub ... 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agusts Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 In a country when you can buy the big three manufactured bikes with plenty of spares and service shops there is no point to buy Chinese with not many parts and mechanics for it... ! As mentioned a used well-known brand is much better option... I spoke to few Ryuka owners and they said the quality and ride is also not that good... I have a Chinese bike myself in another country, but you can't buy the big three brands there, they have no shops and not imported due to ridiculous tax regime, however, 95% of all bikes there are Chinese and every corner has a mechsnic for it and sell their parts really cheap, hence when in Rome.... ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denim Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 (edited) On 3/20/2020 at 11:12 AM, SteveK said: It's about 45k! I think he meant the super dupa 125 cub ordinary 110 is around 47,000 Edited March 23, 2020 by Denim 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stament Posted March 23, 2020 Author Share Posted March 23, 2020 10 minutes ago, Agusts said: In a country when you can buy the big three manufactured bikes with plenty of spares and service shops there is no point to buy Chinese with not many parts and mechanics for it... ! As mentioned a used well-known brand is much better option... I spoke to few Ryuka owners and they said the quality and ride is also not that good... I have a Chinese bike myself in another country, but you can't buy the big three brands there, they have no shops and not imported due to ridiculous tax regime, however, 95% of all bikes there are Chinese and every corner has a mechsnic for it and sell their parts really cheap, hence when in Rome.... ! The big 3 being Honda, Yamaha and ..... Suzuki or Kawasaki? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stament Posted March 23, 2020 Author Share Posted March 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, Denim said: I think he meant the super dupa 125 cub ordinary 110 is around 47,000 Lovely looking bike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Agusts Posted March 23, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, stament said: The big 3 being Honda, Yamaha and ..... Suzuki or Kawasaki? Okay, make that 4, but Kawasaki doesn't really have a lot of small bikes or scooters ... 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Denim Posted March 23, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 23, 2020 (edited) 14 hours ago, stament said: Lovely looking bike I prefer the Ryuka retro rk110. only 29,000 baht !! What I like is the easy accessibility to the carb and engine. No need to take a fairing off. If the engine expires you could probably get a Honda or Lifan unit to replace it. Another bonus is you get a proper clutch. Bare balls basic but classy . Edited March 23, 2020 by Denim 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papa al Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 Ryuka for 29,000 good luck vs basic WaveFI for 32,000 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canthai55 Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 10 hours ago, Denim said: That is one FUGLY bike 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktm jeff Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 10 hours ago, Denim said: I think he meant the super dupa 125 cub ordinary 110 is around 47,000 Thats the only one i found. Super dupa , LOL. It looks very nice with a front disc. I like those Ryuka models with the multi spoke wheels. Theres about 60/70 spokes on them. Looks cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktm jeff Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 That Ryuka Retro could be a good alternative to the 40K Suzuki GD 110. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denim Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 14 hours ago, canthai55 said: That is one FUGLY bike Well, if we are ever out on the raz at least we won't end up trying to <deleted> the same bird. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Denim Posted March 23, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 23, 2020 (edited) 14 hours ago, ktm jeff said: That Ryuka Retro could be a good alternative to the 40K Suzuki GD 110. Especially if you throw some money at it. The Suzuki I mean Edited March 23, 2020 by Denim 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artiz Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 I do rather like mine @stament... I bought it just over 3 years ago brand new. I've been in and out of Thailand touring around SE Asia on it for the last few years. Doing visa runs on it were a blast. I've done 30,000 km so far and the only thing I have replaced of any value has been a drive/wheel cog and chain... I am a big bloke after all. A few niggly problems like lights which are a bit dodgy plus a few bolts falling off... yes! Apart from that 60,000 Baht on the road has been a very good deal so far. Resale value is not the best but if I now sold it for 25,000 baht it would still be an unbeatable deal as far as I'm concerned. All the Thai towns usually have a Ryuka dealer/mechanic/order parts... not an issue. Could never see me riding around on a moped... wasn't going to happen! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktm jeff Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 Great bike. Honda parts fit these type of bikes , and any half decent mechanic can work on them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artiz Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 24 minutes ago, Denim said: Especially if you throw some money at it. The Suzuki I mean That is the issue when it comes down to it... throwing your money away! Love this little Suzuki above but the Ryuka Retro RK110 is just about perfect for buzzing around most of Thailand. You get a 3 year/30,000 km engine warranty and also free servicing at any official Ryuka/Zhongshen dealership - worldwide. Would I buy one in my home country??? Probably not... but I'd far rather gamble with a lower stake when I'm travelling thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stament Posted March 24, 2020 Author Share Posted March 24, 2020 What about the moped types the super cub copy, guess the advice is avoid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VocalNeal Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 10 hours ago, Denim said: Especially if you throw some money at it. The Suzuki I mean OK so who puts these together? Anyone who the workshop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denim Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 14 hours ago, VocalNeal said: OK so who puts these together? Anyone who the workshop? I lost the link when I upgraded to Windows 10 but a google search might get it if you dig a little. Somewhere in Thailand. But you can see it won't be cheap as a lot of expensive changes have been made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VocalNeal Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 I even tried reverse look up but nada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agusts Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 (edited) 11 hours ago, artiz said: That is the issue when it comes down to it... throwing your money away! Love this little Suzuki above but the Ryuka Retro RK110 is just about perfect for buzzing around most of Thailand. You get a 3 year/30,000 km engine warranty and also free servicing at any official Ryuka/Zhongshen dealership - worldwide. Would I buy one in my home country??? Probably not... but I'd far rather gamble with a lower stake when I'm travelling thanks. ".......free servicing at any official Ryuka/Zhongshen dealership - worldwide......" You hard to find many of those in Thailand, I think there was one in the whole of Phuket and they said there were the GPX shop but support ordering Ryuka parts if asked, I doubt they would do any free servicing ! - I think everything on that bike will fall apart except the engine and then those need repair from your own pocket... I'm glad you had good by experience with your Ryuka RS1 bike, I heard otherwise, I did research it a couple of years ago, most owners of that bike told me a 20 years old Honda Phantom will be better .... !!! I still think a well-known brand name bike, even a used one, will be far better option for Thailand and also if travelling all the way to any neighbouring countries, Cambodia, Vietnam, you name it.... I have never seen a Ryuka in any of those during my travels. Edited March 24, 2020 by Agusts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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