cmarshall Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 44 minutes ago, Berkshire said: I didn't think Biden should have locked himself in like that, to promise a woman VP. But since the majority of the electorate are women (unlike the TV forum), probably not a bad move. The suburban women's vote, formerly Republican, is now up for grabs. That said, women voters have never expressed a strong voting preference for women candidates. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lannarebirth Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 24 minutes ago, Cryingdick said: I am guessing Obama will surprise everybody and endorse Trump at this point. Call me crazy, but wait a few months, please, but I don't think Biden and/or Trump will be a candidate in November. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lannarebirth Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 27 minutes ago, Cryingdick said: It's pretty well known that Obama would have intervened against Bernie. Would have? He most certainly already did. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmarshall Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, lannarebirth said: Call me crazy, but wait a few months, please, but I don't think Biden and/or Trump will be a candidate in November. I give it 50/50 that Trump will find a way to suspend or cancel the election. I know that he lacks the authority to do so, but if he were to issue an order to that effect, several Republican governors, who actually conduct the elections, might decide to go along with it and then, poof, the results have weakened legitimacy. In that scenario, who would stop Trump? Edited March 23, 2020 by cmarshall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lannarebirth Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 17 minutes ago, cmarshall said: Nope. It will be a white female. Biden already has the black vote who come out for him in numbers. Putting a black on the ticket might cost him some Republican votes. Warren is the only one of the wannabes capable of being president. But Biden won't forgive her for attacking him, so it will be someone else. It'll be Warren or Klobuchar. As you say, why pander Black if you already have them? Klobuchar helps in upper midwest, very important. Warren may help with progressives if they buy she is a progressive, which most people don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lannarebirth Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 9 minutes ago, cmarshall said: I give it 50/50 that Trump will find a way to suspend or cancel the election. I know that he lacks the authority to do so, but if he were to issue an order to that effect, several Republican governors, who actually conduct the elections, might decide to go along with it and then, poof, the results have weakened legitimacy. In that scenario, who would stop Trump? That is certainly one plausible scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolboy Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 14 minutes ago, lannarebirth said: Would have? He most certainly already did. Evidence? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmarshall Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 8 minutes ago, lannarebirth said: It'll be Warren or Klobuchar. As you say, why pander Black if you already have them? Klobuchar helps in upper midwest, very important. Warren may help with progressives if they buy she is a progressive, which most people don't. The fact is that the VP candidate never matters to the outcome. People vote for presidents, not vice presidents. The only exception I can think of in the modern era is LBJ in 1960 without whom JFK would probably not have carried Texas. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike787 Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 Biden should quit now...he's useless.... 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sukhumvitneon Posted March 23, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 23, 2020 (edited) It doesn't matter who Biden will pick as his running mate, he's going to lose anyway. He's running on the globalism/open borders/put all your manufacturing eggs in the China basket platform and if there's just one good thing to come out of this viral pandemic, it's to show most people that these things aren't really a good way to base your economy on. He also wants to reclassify "assault weapons" as NFA items. Good luck winning the key swing states in the great lakes region with that Edited March 23, 2020 by sukhumvitneon 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmarshall Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, mike787 said: Biden should quit now...he's useless.... On the contrary, Biden should be having his own daily briefings with qualified experts to counter Trump's dangerous lies and show himself to be presidential. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lannarebirth Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 23 minutes ago, bristolboy said: Evidence? You want me to take an eye test? Let me assure you, I am not blind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gargamon Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 Wow, most here are way out of touch with reality. Especially those that base their so called knowledge on the nonsense from Trump TV (aka Fox News) and the other rights wing propaganda machines. The selection for Biden's running mate will be Stacey Abrams. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolboy Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 6 minutes ago, lannarebirth said: You want me to take an eye test? Let me assure you, I am not blind. Share with us what you saw and where you saw it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmarshall Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 6 minutes ago, lannarebirth said: You want me to take an eye test? Let me assure you, I am not blind. I thought when Hillary all of a sudden out of nowhere came out swinging against Bernie that she was a stalking horse. Bernie had campaigned for her 33 times in 2016. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmarshall Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, gargamon said: Wow, most here are way out of touch with reality. Especially those that base their so called knowledge on the nonsense from Trump TV (aka Fox News) and the other rights wing propaganda machines. The selection for Biden's running mate will be Stacey Abrams. Abrams is very smart and has a future in politics, but there is no way Biden would pick her. As I pointed out above he's going to get all the black vote with or without her, but he wants to appeal to some of the suburban women's vote, formerly Republican, some of whom may blanch at the prospect of a black woman president. Also, the Trump campaign would make Abrams the focus of their attacks as too far to the left, i.e. too black. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bristolboy Posted March 23, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 23, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, sukhumvitneon said: It doesn't matter who Biden will pick as his running mate, he's going to lose anyway. He's running on the globalism/open borders/put all your manufacturing eggs in the China basket platform and if there's just one good thing to come out of this viral pandemic, it's to show most people that these things aren't really a good way to base your economy on. He also wants to reclassify "assault weapons" as NFA items. Good luck winning the key swing states in the great lakes region with that I'm sure that unlike in the 2018 elections, the electorate won't consider insurance coverage for preexisting conditions at all important. It's not like medical coverage will be on their minds at all. They'll probably approve of Trump's support of a lawsuit that will cancel it. And his lack of plans for a replacement of Obamacare is sure to be a winner! Edited March 23, 2020 by bristolboy 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Eric Loh said: Maybe Andrew Cuomo who is now the talk of the town and seem miles ahead of Trump in his handling of the pandemic in NY. He is young too. Not a woman and he's more of a president than a vice president. Presidents don't like to be upstaged like that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 3 hours ago, Curt1591 said: She and Mrs Obama are probably the only choices that can get people to a rally. I don't recall any previous rallies reaching into 4 digit attendance! Rallies are so last year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 (edited) Val Demings She's got almost everything. Middle aged black woman Presidential gravitas in temperament. Florida! She'll win Florida for Biden. One downside. No name recognition. As far as Abrams she's got the passion and charisma but I kind of agree she may be threatening to more swingy moderate white voters. I don't think Demings has that problem. https://www.orlandosentinel.com/opinion/columnists/os-op-val-demings-vice-president-david-whitley-20200313-wm3vwu45ojewfe43x7k7wxl5oy-story.html Edited March 23, 2020 by Jingthing 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 11 minutes ago, Jingthing said: Not a woman and he's more of a president than a vice president. Presidents don't like to be upstaged like that. You probably right. Both gentlemen are close friends for a longtime. He also openly endorsed Biden whom he see as the best person to beat Trump. Some say that he is looking for AG in Biden’s WH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmarshall Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 8 minutes ago, Jingthing said: Val Demings She's got almost everything. Middle aged black woman Presidential gravitas in temperament. Florida! She'll win Florida for Biden. One downside. No name recognition. As far as Abrams she's got the passion and charisma but I kind of agree she may be threatening to more swingy moderate white voters. I don't think Demings has that problem. https://www.orlandosentinel.com/opinion/columnists/os-op-val-demings-vice-president-david-whitley-20200313-wm3vwu45ojewfe43x7k7wxl5oy-story.html Demings makes me nervous. I can just imagine her looking me right in the eye and saying, "Do you know how fast you were going? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertik Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 3 hours ago, Kelsall said: I think it will be Hillary. The Clintons will use this senile old man to get back in the White House. I think you're onto something. Back in the day, Bill was referred to as "the 1st black president" so it looks as though Hillary would fit the bill as being a woman and of color. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiBunny Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 1 minute ago, albertik said: Hillary would fit the bill as being a woman and of color. White you mean? That's a color, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 To the issue of Biden already having the black vote. Yes that is true. So did Hillary. But the key is to get them to turn out overwhelmingly. As I've mentioned before there is theory that if 45 gets as little as 12 percent of the black vote he wins. So Biden needs the black vote on steroids. So yes an African American VP would be very helpful to his chances. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, albertik said: I think you're onto something. Back in the day, Bill was referred to as "the 1st black president" so it looks as though Hillary would fit the bill as being a woman and of color. Total nonsense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertik Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 1 minute ago, ThaiBunny said: White you mean? That's a color, right? No, I mean that if Bill was the 1st black president then it would follow that Hill would be the 1st black VP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertik Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jingthing said: Total nonsense. Just kidding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frantick Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 Whomever he picks will be president within the first year. He didn't even want to run for president; he'll step down. Of course I don't think he'll win. And not because Trump will declare marshal law or something. This ain't Russia. I'd fight that even being a Trump-policy supporter. Don't like the man personally, as I didn't care for Obama's personality either. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 1 minute ago, frantick said: Whomever he picks will be president within the first year. He didn't even want to run for president; he'll step down. Of course I don't think he'll win. And not because Trump will declare marshal law or something. This ain't Russia. I'd fight that even being a Trump-policy supporter. Don't like the man personally, as I didn't care for Obama's personality either. Biden has been running for president for about 30 years. Of course he wanted to run and win. Predicting his life span I'll leave to the Gods but I do think his VP will be seen as a probable next president. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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