Worst nightmare - Daughter Speaking American!

[Neeranam]

2 minutes ago, Muzzique said:

I moved to Germany for that reason. Both my daughters completed Uni here and started their lives completely debt free. In fact they got paid a sizable allowance to attend, so they actually ended up in profit.

I heard Sweden do the same, but few people know. 

[cmsally]

17 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

My daughter started learning German as she was going to be going to free University there.

Before Brexit ? Or were you anticipating Scottish independence?

[BigStar]

13 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

My wife was taught by US teachers. I nearly laughed my <deleted> off when she said she was going for a dump! 

Why? We normally don't use "defecate" in the US. And did she in turn laugh at your boorishness and stupidity?

[CGW]

12 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Luckily(very), I escaped the "big hoose".

The "summer of 76" different memories for different folks!

[Neeranam]

1 minute ago, cmsally said:

Before Brexit ? Or were you anticipating Scottish independence?

Before. Actually, I was expecting independence. As a Thai, she could get a scholarship. isn't it great to be a Dual Citizen? ????

[cmsally]

6 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Being over 17, there's not much I cab change now regarding her accent. IELTS is no problem. The worst thing is that she will have to pay fees of about 13,000 GBP a year as a foreign student, despite being a British citizen. 

I know !

[Neeranam]

4 minutes ago, BigStar said:

Why? We normally don't use "defecate" in the US. And did she in turn laugh at your boorishness and stupidity?

Now you are talking s*1t!

[ratcatcher]

6 minutes ago, Muzzique said:

During that time she picked up a god awful American accent.

Surely you mean she picked up a "god awful" NYC accent. The United States like the United Kingdom has dozens, if not hundreds of regional accents. I am sure there are American members on this forum who can differentiate between a Brooklyn accent and one from Manhattan. I find some "Strine iccents hard on the ias", but I still like 'em.

[cmsally]

4 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Before. Actually, I was expecting independence. As a Thai, she could get a scholarship. isn't it great to be a Dual Citizen? ????

Ahh, that one on the Thai passport !

[Jane Dough]

It can be a worrying time.

 

In normal times it would just be the relatively simple matter of packing them off to Blighty for "readjustment training". It worked with my daughter who has picked up the correct accent and a host of unsavory terms on the trading floors at Canary Wharf. Fortunately not "Saarf London" as I would prefer American to my own tongue.

 

In these virus times you might need to find an appropriate "finishing school" locally to round off those yankee rough edges ????

 

 

Rooster

[sanuk711]

1 hour ago, Neeranam said:

Worst nightmare - Daughter Speaking American!

Really that's your worst nightmare for a teen-aged Thai Girl.................

[cmsally]

Surely there must be a Youtube channel for correct English !

If not maybe start one ! Remember I gave you the idea so you need to make me a partner!

[Neeranam]

2 minutes ago, Jane Dough said:

In these virus times you might need to find an appropriate "finishing school" locally to round off those yankee rough edges

The situation now means that we spend much more time together and she(and he sister) are happy to be forced to watch Braveheart and Scotland the what - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzS3AdzZ0Nw

[Andy from Kent]

Your daughter is near adulthood.     Why not let her speak in the accent she finds most comfortable.

[UbonThani]

1 hour ago, Puchaiyank said:

Get outta here!  Surely you musta be kidding...

Outta here is Aussie slang

[Neeranam]

3 minutes ago, cmsally said:

Surely there must be a Youtube channel for correct English !

If not maybe start one ! Remember I gave you the idea so you need to make me a partner!

Actually she is in negotiations, for translating, with a friend who has a channel.

 

[Neeranam]

3 minutes ago, UbonThani said:

Outta here is Aussie slang

Were the animals Australians?

 

[BigStar]

1 hour ago, Neeranam said:

Getting out of Thailand is fine and I understand that, but "when I graduate school" is incorrect where I come from, but she insists it's what her US teacher says. Is this proper US English? "Outta" is fair enough, unless it was in writing. 

 

Good to be exposed to different English types, or is it?

 

I suppose we all want our offspring to have an accent similar to ours, or at least from the country where we come from.

You aren't talking about "accent." If so, she'd need to be using, say, proper Brummie or Geordie like so many of our members.

 

But languages evolve and the usage of graduate has changed over time. Not your time, of course.

 

Quote

The Random House Webster’s College Dictionary lists this among its definitions: “to receive a degree or diploma from: to graduate college.”

 

A usage note in Random House adds that “although condemned by some as nonstandard,” this sense of the verb “is increasing in both speech and writing: to graduate high school.”

 

. . .

 

Meanwhile, Merriam-Webster’s Dictionary of English Usage says, “This use of graduate without from has been cited as an error” by usage commentators since 1957.

 

Nevertheless, it’s “probably established by now,” the guide continues, though “it appears to be more frequent in speech than in writing and is not nearly as frequent as the longer established intransitive”—the one with “from.”

     --https://www.grammarphobia.com/blog/2014/04/graduate-school.html

 

Now you may be out of touch with current usage "where you come from" (shudder) but assuredly the miserable inhabitants there will all come around to it as well. Just gotta suck it up, pal.

 

Go apologize to your daughter. Stop being so provincial and ignorant.

 

[Muzzique]

8 minutes ago, cmsally said:

Surely there must be a Youtube channel for correct English

There already is

 

 

Learning Eng with Teacher Phensri. 

[wotsdermatter]

1 hour ago, spiekerjozef said:

That horrible US accent.

Have you ever been to the States?  They have many different accents, some good, i.e. acceptable and understood outside of the country, and many non-acceptable and not understood outside of the country.  Same goes for England, Scotland, Ireland, and South Africa.

'nuf sed.

[Curt1591]

Maybe send her to Wales!

[Logosone]

9 minutes ago, wotsdermatter said:

Have you ever been to the States?  They have many different accents, some good, i.e. acceptable and understood outside of the country, and many non-acceptable and not understood outside of the country.  Same goes for England, Scotland, Ireland, and South Africa.

'nuf sed.

Indeed.

 

In the UK the Geordie accent is attractive, so is the upper class "plum" accent, more the latter one. Liverpuddlian, Mancunian, Cockney are not so attractive.

 

In the US a Southern Tennessee accent is attractive, New York accent less so, Philadelphian accent is nice, Maine accent not so much.

 

The Australian accent is funny, I always have to laugh when they talk, Scottish, forget about it, I'm under the table.

 

Irish is quite nice.

 

In Europe Swiss, Catalonian, all Scandinavian and Dutch are the worst sounding languages, obviously French, Spanish, Italian the best.

[wotsdermatter]

16 minutes ago, Logosone said:

Irish is quite nice.

Maybe, but can you always understand what is being said?  My first wife was from County Limerick and I could understand her but not her mother or father.

'nuf sed.

[Logosone]

Not really, but it's not an offensive accent to the ear. Some accents, say Mancunian are very offensive to the ear. Same with dutch or catalan.

 

I can't always understand the Irish, no, but then I can't always understand Americans. That upper class English plum accent is fantastic to understand.

[Neeranam]

51 minutes ago, BigStar said:

Now you may be out of touch with current usage "where you come from" (shudder) but assuredly the miserable inhabitants there will all come around to it as well. Just gotta suck it up, pal.

 

Go apologize to your daughter. Stop being so provincial and ignorant.

 

You seem to have a french fry on your shoulder. 

 

 

[Neeranam]

30 minutes ago, Curt1591 said:

Maybe send her to Wales!

the University of South Wales is on the list -  can get a 2000 pound a year scholarship.

[bendejo]

2 hours ago, Neeranam said:

going to the same school as Lord Byron, although a few years later. 

I know what you mean, I went to the same junior college as OJ Simpson.  It's practically the same thing.

 

 

[phetphet]

You think that's bad.

 

My girlfriend's daughter is picking up my cockney accent.

 

I keep having to correct her when she replaces "th" with "f", and dropping t's at the end of words.

 

Seems funny hearing a little Thai girl speak English with a cockney accent.

 

Learning french as well.

 

Regarding the American accent. I think they pick a lot of that up from watching US TV, and youtube videos.

[LomSak27]

2 hours ago, cmsally said:

I think her "US teacher " has some questionable grammar skills !

Of course it must be the teacher,  can't be the student.    Right. 

[Neeranam]

13 minutes ago, bendejo said:

I know what you mean, I went to the same junior college as OJ Simpson.  It's practically the same thing.

 

 

I din't know OJ was a poet ????