What is minimum ban for overstay please.

[RubbaJohnny]

Getting an extension means contact with many people at Immigration, transport, copy shop, Governement Office for wedding certificate, transport, queues. I am wondering if a short overstay solves it all. I realize there is a risk of detention,
But I am lucky in that I can cycle down the lane, with almost zero chance of a check ,one in last 20 years and even then they just looked at the cover) to the border once open and pay the fine which is not an issue. May main concern is getting a ban.One of neighbour from immigration gives the univesral local cop out, Up to you!

What are the tariffs I heard of one person getting 5 years, a month or two is acceptable , longer probably not so will have to risk my health contrary to the government and Drs advice to isolate.

Any factual info most welcome, thanking you in anticipation.

[transam]

Think you worry too much....

[lopburi3]

There are specific numbers based on the amount of overstay but if you believe going to the border and getting a new entry is going to happen anytime soon respectfully suggest that is likely not to be the case (even if the other country would allow entry which it likely will not).  Get the extension of stay before April 30 (or new date of emergency) and offices should not be too crowded.     

[ubonjoe]

If you pay the 500 baht per day fine (max 20k baht) on departure from the country and overstay for more than 90 days you would be banned for one year.

If caught with a overstay it would be a 5 year ban.

 

Under the ministerial order done last week you can stay in the country until the emergency situation is over. Overstay fines have also been waved.

[RubbaJohnny]

Thanks to both for a prompt reply with required info.
Would appearing at the border count as surrendering to the authorities, pay 20k bounce back once borders open dealing with just 2 people not many.

[graemeaylward]

Hi, I am no expert, but here are 2 cases that involve friends of mine (Both before Covid-19 outbreak) First case UK citizen aged 72 married to Thai man, been in Thailand 12 years. In hospital at time of extension so could not complete.  Went to Immigration some time later and was given 90 day stamp, passport clearly not looked at.  Went for next 90 day report and was told she had overstayed by 120 days and told she would have to pay 22,000 baht and be banned for one year.  She was not locked up but had to make own arrangements for flight back to UK.  Paid fine at airport.  Second case involved US citizen, who missed his extension by 72 days.  Went to Immigration for residence certificate and discovered he was an overstayer.  He had to pay 20,000 baht fine but was not banned!  Both of these cases involved the same Immigration Office at Khon Kaen.  Hope that this helps with your decision.

 

[OneeyedJohn]

About 7 years ago I was on 360 days overstay, I bought an airline ticket to the UK, went to Maesai border checkpoint and was fined 20K baht, I walked out and back to the checkpoint where on production of my ticket to UK, they stamped me in for 7 days.

 

Pre junta days so less strict.

Anyway I put a smile on all the immigration faces at Maesai.

A 20,000 baht smile.

[ubonjoe]

1 minute ago, OneeyedJohn said:

About 7 years ago I was on 360 days overstay, I bought an airline ticket to the UK, went to Maesai border checkpoint and was fined 20K baht, I walked out and back to the checkpoint where on production of my ticket to UK, they stamped me in for 7 days.

if you did that after March of 2016 you would of been banned from entering the country for a year.

[ubonjoe]

13 minutes ago, RubbaJohnny said:

Thanks to both for a prompt reply with required info.
Would appearing at the border count as surrendering to the authorities, pay 20k bounce back once borders open dealing with just 2 people not many.

Many border crossing will not let you leave with a long overstay. If they let you leave, paid the fine and your overstay was 90 days or less there would be no ban.

As I wrote before at this time you can stay in the country until the emergency situation is over. When it is over is when the border crossings will open again.

[JimGant]

12 minutes ago, graemeaylward said:

Second case involved US citizen, who missed his extension by 72 days.  Went to Immigration for residence certificate and discovered he was an overstayer.  He had to pay 20,000 baht fine but was not banned! 

What then? Was he allowed to renew his extension of stay, even with the 72 day gap -- and assuming his financials were in order -- or was he given 7 days to exit the country and begin anew?

[JimGant]

20 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

Under the ministerial order done last week you can stay in the country until the emergency situation is over. Overstay fines have also been waved.

And if you can't renew your extension because your embassy is not issuing income letters until after the crisis -- no fine and no problem renewing late?

[ubonjoe]

22 minutes ago, JimGant said:

And if you can't renew your extension because your embassy is not issuing income letters until after the crisis -- no fine and no problem renewing late?

It is grey area when comes to an extension of stay ending and you could not apply for the extension. They may consider the emergency extension as not being a non-o visa entry.

I think most embassies have made provisions for doing some services that would be considered as an emergency.

[audaciousnomad]

 

 

2 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

Many border crossing will not let you leave with a long overstay. If they let you leave, paid the fine and your overstay was 90 days or less there would be no ban.

As I wrote before at this time you can stay in the country until the emergency situation is over. When it is over is when the border crossings will open again.

By "long overstay" you mean 90 days or more?

[jimmjam]

I think embassies have stopped doing covid letters havent they?

since the automatic extension announcement.

I will be waiting it out until the borders open, i will go to immogration before my extension finishes and see what can be done. If they cant give me another extension. I will wait.

 

[ubonjoe]

57 minutes ago, audaciousnomad said:

By "long overstay" you mean 90 days or more?

More than a week or so at some of them.

[Bell1234]

7 hours ago, RubbaJohnny said:

Thanks to both for a prompt reply with required info.
Would appearing at the border count as surrendering to the authorities, pay 20k bounce back once borders open dealing with just 2 people not many.

Yes i did that 7 years ago.. Just paid the 20k and then went out and in sameday.. Can't see it being any different now.

[johnny1966]

8 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

Many border crossing will not let you leave with a long overstay. If they let you leave, paid the fine and your overstay was 90 days or less there would be no ban.

As I wrote before at this time you can stay in the country until the emergency situation is over. When it is over is when the border crossings will open again.

Let's hope that when land borders reopen the io understands the Amnesty clearly and doesn't start slapping people with overstay fines where they're not due.

[Max69xl]

23 hours ago, RubbaJohnny said:

Thanks to both for a prompt reply with required info.
Would appearing at the border count as surrendering to the authorities, pay 20k bounce back once borders open dealing with just 2 people not many.

So, in your opinion it's smarter to pay 20k overstay fine and then go back in, instead of putting on your face mask and visit an almost empty immigration office and get the annual extension for 1900 baht? 

[ericthai]

On 4/17/2020 at 1:20 AM, OneeyedJohn said:

About 7 years ago I was on 360 days overstay, I bought an airline ticket to the UK, went to Maesai border checkpoint and was fined 20K baht, I walked out and back to the checkpoint where on production of my ticket to UK, they stamped me in for 7 days.

 

Pre junta days so less strict.

Anyway I put a smile on all the immigration faces at Maesai.

A 20,000 baht smile.

If you left the country and came back it should have been 30days. There is no 7 days at a boarder. Immigration will sometimes give 7 days if they deny an extension.

 

Crack down on visas, extensions etc started long before the junta took control.