Are there Bangkok condos with HIGH speed fiber optic (200 mbps+)internet connections?

[rodknock]

contacted true, can not upgrade.

i pay for 50/20 and have never seen 50.

[tomazbodner]

There are condos that allow full speed fiber. Centric is owned by SC Capital, sister company of AIS and most recent buildings have fiber to each room. Most of other condos now allow AIS/True/3BB to connect their fiber to rooms but some drilling is needed. Some have contract with a single provider like TOT or CAT, and don't allow any other provider to connect their line to you. Lately a condo-centric FiberNet is gaining popularity especially because of their low prices and willingness to connect fiber to anywhere. Their 200/200 fiber package is 399/month. They do however use some never heard of wifi routers and seem to reuse fiber modems. From True/3BB/AIS/CAT/TOT you generally get new equipment when you get it installed and it's from brands you've heard of before...

[SiSePuede419]

On 4/21/2020 at 8:12 AM, wordchild said:

Always remember, in Thailand , the real choke factor is the international link

Interesting.

 

I'm using 4MB/s wireless and it's perfectly fine for streaming videos, yet last year I had 200MB/s and it was buffering videos occasionally.

 

I suspect there was a choke there.

[edwardandtubs]

The maximum I can get on a Sukhumvit Road (outer Sukhumvit) condo is 200/50 from True which is supposed to be FTTP or 50/20 from AIS. 

 

Can those who posted their SpeedTest results try the same thing at https://testmy.net/ and post the results? It gives a more accurate indication of international speeds.

[shen923]

On 4/21/2020 at 11:11 PM, coops said:

Even if your Thai ISP can provide 200mpbs, you won't get that from any international connection - there's not anywhere near enough bandwidth into Thailand itself from the rest of the world... so it's not much use, unless you need 200+ for your local Thai website needs?

 

Note that speedtest above is to a LOCAL server... change it to somewhere International and then decide whether it's worth paying extra for... 75-100 is fine.

 

https://www.unescap.org/sites/default/files/1 Broadband-Infrastructure-in-the-ASEAN-9-Region.pdf

 

International bandwidth per capita :-

Thailand 6 Kbps (yes, that's K bps )

Singapore 258 Kbps

Malaysia 15 Kbps, and the rest all below Thailand.. so it could be a lot worse. ????

Well I guess my results make your comment inaccurate. I just did a speed test after reading this with server in San Francisco USA and then local,,,seems rather decent to me.  

[natway09]

It must be a very dumb building that has no ducts to follow existing telecom, Truevisions, etc wiring

[mopoan]

I live in Yenakard Rd. (Sathorn area) my condo upgraded to fiber few month ago, and also my friends condo around this area, i have the cheapest AIS package and i get 200Mb up and down for about 360B per month for the first year (instead of 500 something) the internet is fast with super low ping and i'm very happy with it.

 

you can find many condos in this area with direct fiber connectivity

 

 

 

[teutonian]

Yes I have installed fiber into the unit at Millennium.  Most units don’t have it because it costs around 20k baht to have it done.  For inquiries you can write to [email protected]. Currently there is one unit available at 140k per month. Some cheaper ones coming up at the end of the summer and autumn

[dddave]

On 4/21/2020 at 8:38 PM, soi3eddie said:

I'm also in Bangkok and have same issue in 2010 condo near Ari. Only copper connections wired to the apartments. I'm with ais and whilst maintaining reliable 80/30 tested speeds they reduced my price. Ideally I would like full fibre but they said not possible. I will ask the "juristic person" if they will allow individual fibre connections if any ISP will do it. Anyone know what 3BB are like for fibre installations in condos? 

My 50+ year old old apartment/condo building was ADSL only.  When 3BB wired our dead-end soi with Fiber optic, the building manager didn't want to allow it.  She was getting a small kick-back from True for ADSL sign-ups done through the office. 

I put up a small note in the elevator asking anybody interested in 3BB fibre to contact me.  My building has 300 units, mostly single rooms and I got a lot of responses.

We formed a committee and told the manager/juristic person we'd pay any building installation costs. 3BB told the manager that the building would get a commission from 3BB for every account signed-up by the office...more than True was paying so the manager quickly came around.  3BB actually did the building set-up free of charge.  At first, it was only the lower five floors for some reason which left me out but within 6 months, we were fully wired and no problems at all since then. I think my account set-up and deposit came to around B3000.  They provide the router which is not the best but adequate for my needs.

Soooo much better than True and much less expensive.  I currently get 1gb/500 for B690/mo.

Edited April 23, 2020 by dddave

[otissp]

On 4/21/2020 at 12:11 PM, coops said:

https://www.unescap.org/sites/default/files/1 Broadband-Infrastructure-in-the-ASEAN-9-Region.pdf

 

International bandwidth per capita :-

Thailand 6 Kbps (yes, that's K bps )

Singapore 258 Kbps

Malaysia 15 Kbps, and the rest all below Thailand.. so it could be a lot worse. ????

 

Those data are kind of outdated though, in the file it says "Between late‐2012 and mid‐2013". Current data are here:

 

http://internet.nectec.or.th/webstats/bandwidth.iir?Sec=bandwidth

 

Year-Month	Total International Bandwidth (Mbps) แบนด์วิดท์ไปต่างประเทศ	Total Domestic Bandwidth (Mbps) แบนด์วิดท์ในประเทศ
2020-02	10,988,148	8,126,635

So with a population of ~70 million it currently is actually 0.16 MBps per person.

Plus, only a small fraction of those people will be using "international" bandwidth at any given moment, as well.

	Also even if one is accessing a lot of "international" sites, such as youtube, netflix, any European or American news sites, etc., usually these content providers have content replicated in multiple nodes across the globe to increase speed and decrease latency. Probably youtube for example has servers in Thailand caching content.

Edited April 26, 2020 by otissp

[ABCinSG]

Thanks for the info in this thread, I'll definitely check The Waterford as it's within my budget. I'm currently on AIS, and the maximum I can get is 75/30, which is incredibly slow compared to Singapore's stable 6-700 THB 1gbps connections I'm used to. 

 

I recently called up TRUE because they had their Gigatex flyers in the lobby area. I asked them what is the max (theoretical) speed they can go and after about 5 minutes of waiting on the phone, they got back to me to tell me the following:

1) Fibre is not yet supported in your condo

2) Cable speed can go up to 200/50.

 

I was surprised to hear that, as I thought cable was capable of 100mbps max. Also, if both are going through the same copper wires, it doesn't make sense why AIS is slower too. 

 

[tomazbodner]

Gigabit at Parkland from AIS and True - both connected the fiber cable up to the condos on top floor. Centric (at least newer buildings) have AIS fiber to each room already connected, they just connect it at switchboard downstairs and you're online. Also up to 1 gbps. Don't know about others, but there seems to be FiberNet company that specialises in fiber to tall condos and is actually even cheaper than mainstream providers. Their 300 mbps fiber is only 399/month I think. No idea who they use as network provider but their equipment in room is second hand fiber modem (can tell from UV bleaching) and some never heard of junk router but you could buy your own.

[johng]

On 4/26/2020 at 3:13 PM, otissp said:

Those data are kind of outdated though, in the file it says "Between late‐2012 and mid‐2013". Current data are here:

 

http://internet.nectec.or.th/webstats/bandwidth.iir?Sec=bandwidth

 

Year-Month	Total International Bandwidth (Mbps) แบนด์วิดท์ไปต่างประเทศ	Total Domestic Bandwidth (Mbps) แบนด์วิดท์ในประเทศ
2020-02	10,988,148	8,126,635

Wow they really have upped the internation bandwidth in the last 5 years !

Last update 8/7/2020  12,572.048 Gbps