It's Just The Flu.

[Brewster67]

Okay, so we have been counting Covid-19 deaths for 4 months now and the figures mirror those of a particularly bad flu strain.

 

We all know deats of the elderly and sick that starts with cold or flu are being added to the Covid-19 stats because they are coronaviruses.

 

the authorities don't care that this knowledge is out there, as long as their controlled mainstream media don't repeat it. It wasn't on CNN  or the BBC so just call anyone telling you that they also think the earth is flat.

 

The top 5 countries for deaths also happen to be those that could seriously do with a global economic collapse and a complete reset... remove these 5 countries from the death stats and the figures fall well below regular flu instigated deaths.

 

No.... the earth is NOT flat. I am removing that one for you.

[chessman]

7 minutes ago, Brewster67 said:

We all know deats of the elderly and sick that starts with cold or flu are being added to the Covid-19 stats because they are coronaviruses.

Then how would you account for the massive rise in deaths compared to historical averages?
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/04/21/world/coronavirus-missing-deaths.html

 

complain all you want about the MSM media suppressing the ‘truth’, they actually suppress much less and have less rigid agendas than the ideologically driven news on the far right and far left.

[scubascuba3]

The main difference to flu is it seems someone of any age can die even without pre existing conditions. Is that the same as flu?

[yuyiinthesky]

I wouldn't say it's "just" the flu, but as Dr Anthony S. Fauci, M.D. said in "Covid-19 — Navigating the Uncharted" in the New England Journal of Medicine, it is "more akin to those of a severe seasonal influenza":

 

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If one assumes that the number of asymptomatic or minimally symptomatic cases is several times as high as the number of reported cases, the case fatality rate may be considerably less than 1%. This suggests that the overall clinical consequences of Covid-19 may ultimately be more akin to those of a severe seasonal influenza (which has a case fatality rate of approximately 0.1%) or a pandemic influenza (similar to those in 1957 and 1968) rather than a disease similar to SARS or MERS, which have had case fatality rates of 9 to 10% and 36%, respectively.2

Source:
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe2002387

[timendres]

2 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

The main difference to flu is it seems someone of any age can die even without pre existing conditions. Is that the same as flu?

The flu kills young people without pre-existing conditions, including children.

 

The point being made when comparing COVID-19 to Influenza is typically  in terms of the mortality rate. It is beginning to appear that the mortality rates are going to be very similar between the two.

 

That said, COVID-19 is a seriously different disease from the flu, and the differences are quite concerning. There is a case in Singapore where a person tested positive for 40 days, even though symptoms had disappeared after just a few days:

 

    https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-04-30/why-some-patients-keep-testing-positive-for-the-coronavirus

 

It is still unclear if the patient was contagious during the entire time, which would have some very serious implications on top of the fact that people are contagious before they show symptoms, which is very different from Influenza.

 

And now we are seeing COVID-19 becoming a threat to the heart, and possibly other organs:

 

   https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/heart-damage-in-covid-19-patients-puzzles-doctors/

 

 

[mauGR1]

12 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

The main difference to flu is it seems someone of any age can die even without pre existing conditions. Is that the same as flu?

The same as normal life then, the difference this time is that we are locked down, and the world economy is being destroyed.

Soon people will get sick from the fear of catching the virus, oh wait, it's happening already.

[Brewster67]

19 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

The main difference to flu is it seems someone of any age can die even without pre existing conditions. Is that the same as flu?

It is less deadly than any flu strain.

 

Many more people die in car accidents, let's ban cars.

 

It is so non-lethal that they have to LIE about the deaths.

 

We all know they are lying about the Covid-19 deaths and we all know they are being way over-estimated.

 

Why are people not asking why are they lying?

 

 

4 legs good, 2 legs bad

4 legs good, 2 legs bad

4 legs good, 2 legs bad

Edited May 1, 2020 by Brewster67

[Peterw42]

 

[Brewster67]

The US government is paying hospitals $39,000 every time they write Covid-19 on a death certificate, they are told by the government even if they did not test positive for Covid-19, but regardless of how they die, as long as they have some coronavirus in their body at death then you must write Covid-19 on the death certificate and we will pay you $39,000.

 

There is a guy in the USA complaining that his wife died in a car wreck, and because she had a cold the week before and thus had some coronavirus in her system still... Covid-19 went on her death certificate and now her husband is being denied money from her insurance.

 

Real people telling real stories and hardly anyone questioning it.

[chessman]

8 minutes ago, Brewster67 said:

It is so non-lethal that they have to LIE about the deaths.

Maybe the people who tell you ‘they’ are lying about deaths are lying to you. 
 

All evidence points to the current death toll being a significant underestimation. 

[Brewster67]

5 minutes ago, Peterw42 said:

 

No need to post the propaganda... I don't believe any of it.... I believe Dr Andrew Kaufman, professor of molecular biology who says they actually have no idea how infectious it is, and this guy has studied EVERY scientific report that the US government follows.

 

 

 

[Peterw42]

8 minutes ago, Brewster67 said:

It is less deadly than any flu strain.

 

Many more people die in car accidents, let's ban cars.

 

It is so non-lethal that they have to LIE about the deaths.

 

We all know they are lying about the Covid-19 deaths and we all know they are being way over-estimated.

 

Why are people not asking why are they lying?

 

 

4 legs good, 2 legs bad

4 legs good, 2 legs bad

4 legs good, 2 legs bad

Maybe you will understand the mortality rate if you answer the following question.

 

If 3,000 people get the flu, how many will die ? (hint, its 0.1% or 3 people)

 

3,000 people have are known to have covid in Thailand, and 50 have died. (1.6 %)

[TommyBlue]

19 minutes ago, Peterw42 said:

 

Absolute rubbish - until they conduct full study the covid numbers are guesses - the flu numbers are well established over years of study.  Most people being tested and positive for cov are those unwell - most people dont get very sick. If you only counted people get get very sick from flu, then the death rates would be same. 

 

[ChaiyaTH]

Official data from Netherlands tells that during the flu season of average 16 weeks, 2017-2018, around 9500 Dutch people died. 
26,000 were hospitalised. 300,000 visited the doctor and an estimated of 900,000 has been sick for a few days.

COVID has done merely half of that so far. Yet people scream we should get on our knees for nurses etc while most hospitals are empty.
People also not seem to get that it is like being a fireman, you don't hope someones house burns down as its bad but you do the job cuz you love killing fires.
The same for most IC nurses, this is their 1 time in a lifetime chance to show their skills and do their job the best they can. Is a positive thing for most.

Edited May 1, 2020 by ChaiyaTH

[Canuck1966]

All these figures are with people locked up in their houses for weeks on end

To call it the flu is a simplistic pov

What about 100 plus doctors DEAD from this in Italy alone

Is that comparable with seasonal flu??

 

Millions will have to die eventually before herd immunity is established across the world

[Canuck1966]

5 % chance of survival once ventilated

 

I agree it's not an existential threat but it's definitely not seasonal flu

[mauGR1]

31 minutes ago, Brewster67 said:

No need to post the propaganda... I don't believe any of it.... I believe Dr Andrew Kaufman, professor of molecular biology who says they actually have no idea how infectious it is, and this guy has studied EVERY scientific report that the US government follows.

 

 

 

Good explanations. Unfortunately not many are willing to look beyond their noses.

[Jai Dee]

A disgusting troll post (and a reply) has been removed.

[Lacessit]

The earth is flat, the moon is made of green cheese, used car dealers are honest, and COVID-19 is just the flu. I believe it all, start a new religion please.

[FarFlungFalang]

1 hour ago, scubascuba3 said:

The main difference to flu is it seems someone of any age can die even without pre existing conditions. Is that the same as flu?

Yes!People of all ages die from the Flu even without known pre existing conditions.

[Brewster67]

My niece in the UK works in the NHS as a pathologist, her job is to do the blood tests. Even SHE admits that she is NOT testing anyone for Covid-19. In fact she has been told she is NOT EVER going to be testing for Covid-19... IN FACT she doesn't even have the profile for Covid-19 and doubts that one even exists.

 

So what do you think of that?... She is a LIAR perhaps?

 

She even says that most people tested will provide a sample that will be positive for a coronavirus.... Bwahahahahaha

 

You lot are suckers.

[mauGR1]

2 minutes ago, Brewster67 said:

You lot are suckers.

Sorry, not me.

Actually i believe everything you say, and there is more we'd better not talk about.

 

[cornishcarlos]

53 minutes ago, Peterw42 said:

Maybe you will understand the mortality rate if you answer the following question.

 

If 3,000 people get the flu, how many will die ? (hint, its 0.1% or 3 people)

 

3,000 people have are known to have covid in Thailand, and 50 have died. (1.6 %)

 

Here is another hint;

 

There is a clue in your wording that kind of destroys your argument..

 

3,000 people are known to have Covid in Thailand. It is common knowledge that they have been doing very little testing.

They admitted that it was just too expensive !!

Even if the true numbers are only double, fatality rate becomes 0.8%.

[AlexRich]

The 1918 pandemic was also “only a flu” but it managed to kill millions of people between 18-30 years old. Many experienced doctors had never seen anything that could inflict such damage on the body. But it was, actually, only the flu.

 

I was unlucky enough to catch the Aussie flu that was kicking around just over two years ago. The symptoms started showing on the morning that I begun my journey to Thailand via the UK. By the time I arrived I was wrecked, and for days I couldn’t sleep for choking on my own phlegm. That was the first time I realised the flu can kill you. And I’m an avid gym goer and runner. It took around a month to clear my system.

 

Some flus are deadly ... and this one is worse than any we have seen.

 

Another point. The world is in lockdown. It’s not open. So you simply can’t compare the figures now to the common flu ... which circulates in an open society. The figures are low because of the lockdown. 

[Brewster67]

10 minutes ago, mauGR1 said:

Sorry, not me.

Actually i believe everything you say, and there is more we'd better not talk about.

 

Sorry i meant most people..... It seems.

 

Yes there are exceptions, people are waking up all the time.

 

It makes me laugh that some people are unquestioningly even repeating the wild claims that it is more lethal than flu when they don't even have the data available to even know the lethality.

 

Officially they have tested only 0.001% of the human population and from that they know the rate of mortality?.... To know the rate of infection and lethality you MUST have data to work off.... EVERYTHING else is pure guess work... Better known as 'MAKING IT ALL UP AS YOU GO ALONG'.

 

It really is that hilarious.

Edited May 1, 2020 by Brewster67

[Bassclomp]

It's particularly nasty strain of flu but it's still predominantly wiping out the old and weak.The lockdowns on the other hand are adding to deaths through suicides,mental health issues,people terrified to visit doctors and hospitals,operations being cancelled,cancer treatment being delayed not to mention financial difficulties.

Edited May 1, 2020 by Bassclomp
Grammar

[AlexRich]

12 minutes ago, Brewster67 said:

My niece in the UK works in the NHS as a pathologist, her job is to do the blood tests. Even SHE admits that she is NOT testing anyone for Covid-19. In fact she has been told she is NOT EVER going to be testing for Covid-19... IN FACT she doesn't even have the profile for Covid-19 and doubts that one even exists.

 

So what do you think of that?... She is a LIAR perhaps?

 

She even says that most people tested will provide a sample that will be positive for a coronavirus.... Bwahahahahaha

 

You lot are suckers.

 

How do you explain the slaughter in care homes? How does your niece? Is there an assassination squad paying them all a visit? 

[mauGR1]

4 minutes ago, cornishcarlos said:

 

Here is another hint;

 

There is a clue in your wording that kind of destroys your argument..

 

3,000 people are known to have Covid in Thailand. It is common knowledge that they have been doing very little testing.

They admitted that it was just too expensive !!

Even if the true numbers are only double, fatality rate becomes 0.8%.

If you listen to the video posted by the OP, it's been very clearly explained why the tests are unreliable anyway.

And according to the good doctor, the way the deaths are counted is fraudulent. (his words)

[mauGR1]

4 minutes ago, Brewster67 said:

Sorry i meant most people..... It seems.

 

Yes there are exceptions, people are waking up all the time.

 

It makes me laugh that some people are unquestioningly even repeating the wild claims that it is more lethal than flu when they don't even have the data available to even know the lethality.

 

Officially they have tested only 0.001% of the human population and from that they know the rate of mortality?.... To know the rate of infection and lethality you MUST have data to work off.... EVERYTHING else is pure guess work... Better known as 'MAKING IT ALL UP AS YOU GO ALONG'.

 

It really is that hilarious.

No probs mate, instead i am grateful for you posting the video, and for the fact that not everyone are sleeping.

Stay healthy, stay strong, this is just the beginning of a long story.

[BigStar]

1 hour ago, Brewster67 said:

It is so non-lethal that they have to LIE about the deaths.

You remind me of this genius:

A DAD who reportedly said the coronavirus was a political ploy, and called his state's lockdown "bulls***" has died of COVID-19.

John W. McDaniel, from Marion County in Ohio, was diagnosed with the virus in late March, and died in hospital on April 15.

 

--https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11441636/john-mcdaniel-killed-coronavirus-dismissing-political-ploy/