peterb17 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Guderian said: Meanwhile India, which has been under a stricter lockdown than Thailand for a longer period, reported almost 4,000 new cases on Monday and 195 deaths. So what is Thailand doing right that India is doing wrong? Have you ever been to India ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkk6060 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Guderian said: Meanwhile India, which has been under a stricter lockdown than Thailand for a longer period, reported almost 4,000 new cases on Monday and 195 deaths. So what is Thailand doing right that India is doing wrong? If you ever have gone to India you would not ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterb17 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 23 minutes ago, villageidiotY2K said: Research shows that Drinking leo can sanitize internal organs. Also Fibre allows Leo lovers to frequent the loo often which leads to excreting bacteria more often Absolutely- the has been a paper published - the effects of Som Tam , pla ra and those scary fermented crabs completely zap the virus - sadly I can’t find the reference at the moment. Personally I’m not quite sure why the conspiracy nutcases go on and on ad nauseam about all the figures being false - perhaps shutting down inward travel. PS don’t start on the millions of Chinese tourists arriving from Wuhan in January- China is a vast country and believe Wuhan was closed down early on? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rasmus5150 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 29 minutes ago, DrTuner said: Latest is only available in Thai, updated 1. May, straight from MoPH: https://ddc.moph.go.th/viralpneumonia/file/g_srrt/g_srrt_010563.pdf Getting to be a PUI is no guarantee you'll actually be tested all the way to "Confirmed", though. You could end up indefinitely as a "Probable". And considering their test-kits are from China, how much do you really believe in these tests? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malibukid Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 open the gyms 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCP108 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 19 minutes ago, peterb17 said: Absolutely- the has been a paper published - the effects of Som Tam , pla ra and those scary fermented crabs completely zap the virus - sadly I can’t find the reference at the moment. Personally I’m not quite sure why the conspiracy nutcases go on and on ad nauseam about all the figures being false - perhaps shutting down inward travel. PS don’t start on the millions of Chinese tourists arriving from Wuhan in January- China is a vast country and believe Wuhan was closed down early on? Sarcasm? If not and you're serious, would I be a conspiracy theorist if I didn't believe the results of the study quoted in this article about a year ago? https://thethaiger.com/news/pattaya/phew-no-prostitutes-in-pattayas-walking-street-police Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankeesvsredsox Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 27 minutes ago, malibukid said: open the gyms I don't think the gyms can afford to furnish the bottles of 70% alcohol at each equipment station Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enoon Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 1 hour ago, dinsdale said: If anyone believes this they must be either insane or stupid. China, Wuhan, 0 infections. I've been saying this for ages Prayut is taking this straight from the CCP playbook of non-transperency and misinformation. Add to that a complete lack of testing and you get this absolute lie to the people of Thailand. Unfortunately there are many blind sheep that will take this as truth. The "laws" pretty much compel the Thai people to believe it, or not say that they don't believe it. (As is the case in several other countries, with similar regimes, claiming "world class" COVID management) The Thai state has well known and acknowledged "previous" with regard to its administration of comparable draconian dictates. Those "contributors", on these pages, who continue to eagerly lap it up, have no excuse. They are the most deserving of contempt. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinsdale Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, rumak said: i believe ....... that your answer is sufficient to at least make me wonder why you are so vocal about how many people you believe are infected. Also, if many have been infected but show little or no symptoms, i think that is a good thing. Thank you for your answer. None that you know. I find no reason to speculate on what i believe as i also do not know anyone. Or anyone that knows anyone. Please do not start a debate with me. Your posts speak for themselves Listen to anyone, by this I mean experts, news, commentators etc and they now all say "official figures" "we all know the figures are higher" because everyone knows, maybe not you, that the official figures are under reported. You believe the govt official figures good for you. I guess you believe the figures from China also. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rumak Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 (edited) This thread is about numbers reported today. I already know the views of those members who dispute it, as it is repeated over and over. Of course, i do not read them anymore. But, there are lots of viewers so at least we can get an idea from the question i asked, if anyone else would like to give us their first hand numbers Edited May 5, 2020 by rumak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Enoon Posted May 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 5, 2020 17 minutes ago, rumak said: remind us again, how many of your friends, wife's friends, or blood relatives have got the virus? No friends of friends please. Just people you or wife know personally. I am hoping for just a straight answer... without the embelishments BTW: this question is open to all . I am maybe the biggest cynic of all when it comes to "studies, facts, reported numbers, experts," . etc ! But, i just want to know what you TV members witness first hand I arrived back in the UK on 1st May. Nobody I know here knows anyone who has it. Except for one person who "knows" quite a few. He is a maxillo-facial surgeon in a large local hospital. I've known him for about 5 years. He tells me that, thankfully, the numbers have started to move in the right direction. What you people seem to have such a problem with is actually picturing the numbers as a percentage of the population as a whole. They are, relatively speaking, very few and far between. But not far and few enough for the people who are themselves in intensive care, or for their relatives, or for those coping with it, and dying of it, as professional carers. The trees continue to fall in the forest, even though you are "many miles away2. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post lkv Posted May 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 5, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, peterb17 said: PS don’t start on the millions of Chinese tourists arriving from Wuhan in January- China is a vast country and believe Wuhan was closed down early on? No, that's not very accurate. It went from Wuhan to major cities in China and onwards to everywhere, including Europe, since November 2019. Somehow, Chinese travellers decided to spare Thailand of infection since then. ???? ???? Edited May 5, 2020 by lkv 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post herwin1234 Posted May 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 5, 2020 2 hours ago, sapson said: Just 1 positive out of a population of 70 million....... the daily flatulence from the ministry! Magical Thailand, next illusion feeding their own people.? Maybe tomorrow they can go for zero positive from a total of 3 tested nationwide!! with a crowd of generals all back slapping pointing at a huge zero in congratulations. What a photo op that would be along with some photos of the queueing Thais waiting for a food handout from a group of farangs!! Another cynical and unfair bogus reply from a forum farang. Thailand handles this crisis very profesional with amazing results. Leaders who make their decsions based on facts and medical advice, and a united population who understands the seriousness of this crisis. The result is great, no chaos and a controlled epidemy. If you want to spout your cynical dribble save it for, ummmm. America? Leaders who politisize this crisis, encourage its citizens to be unruly and NOT comply with local crisis measurements, suggest injecting bleach might be a cure, and try to distract from their own failing by playing the blame game towards China and the WHO. Pure mismanagement. You can be happy that you are in Thailand during this crisis. 3 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visacrack Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 Permit me to publish this concept Swimming in standard pools (25 m) without infection risk This can be done if organised properly: The pool will be opened for swimmers only, not splashers or sun-tanners. They must register a day earlier in a list. If it is a 7-lane pool like the one at <deleted>, Pattaya, then open lanes 1, 4 and 7. Every swimmer receives one of these lanes, and they get 1/2 hour, staggered, thus from minute 00 to 30 on lane 1, 10 to 40 lane 4, 20 to 50 lane 7. This way, there is no risk for contact, not even in the toilet/shower building. Of course, they won't stay in the pool area longer than necessary. A condo supervisor can check that the rules will be observed. But as there are swimmers only (thus maybe 20 people a day), no splashers or sun-tanners, this will hardly be necessary. Please remember: It is apparently not Covid that kills, it is lifestyle diseases (LSD) being accelerated by covid. LSD are being caused by body fat excess, something that can be prevented through proper nutrition and sufficient sports (! swimming). So prohibiting swimming indirectly promotes covid mortality. Not to mention that swimming has a number of other positive health effects that are lost through the present blockade. Feel free to share .) 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, rasmus5150 said: And considering their test-kits are from China, how much do you really believe in these tests? MoPH is doing RT-PCR, I think their labs are ok. Just how many tests are they doing a day and what is the status of their stockpiles of reagents is, is another question. I don't think they've upped the reference lab capabilities significantly at all from when this all began. And non-reference lab results are "unverified" and supposed to be undisclosed - until a local talking head gets the microphone and blurts it all out. Edited May 5, 2020 by DrTuner 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Enoon Posted May 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 5, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Enoon said: 1 hour ago, rumak said: remind us again, how many of your friends, wife's friends, or blood relatives have got the virus? No friends of friends please. Just people you or wife know personally. I am hoping for just a straight answer... without the embelishments BTW: this question is open to all . I am maybe the biggest cynic of all when it comes to "studies, facts, reported numbers, experts," . etc ! But, i just want to know what you TV members witness first hand I arrived back in the UK on 1st May. Nobody I know here knows anyone who has it. Except for one person who "knows" quite a few. He is a maxillo-facial surgeon in a large local hospital. I've known him for about 5 years. He tells me that, thankfully, the numbers have started to move in the right direction. What you people seem to have such a problem with is actually picturing the numbers as a percentage of the population as a whole. They are, relatively speaking, very few and far between. But not far and few enough for the people who are themselves in intensive care, or for their relatives, or for those coping with it, and dying of it, as professional carers. The trees continue to fall in the forest, even though it is a very large forest, and you are "many miles away". I might also add that my employers brother is a funeral director. He also told me that his everyday business (people die everyday from many causes) has not been "dramatically" affected. Because the numbers of COVID dead in the county (several hundred) divided into the million plus population of it, have not had such an affect on his normal workload. Proportionate numbers of COVID dead in the UK at the moment are 1 in every 2375 people. Like so many "great" events in history, for the majority of individuals it is something that happened "over there somewhere", to somebody I don't know. Edited May 5, 2020 by Enoon 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dcnx Posted May 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 5, 2020 3 hours ago, Guderian said: Meanwhile India, which has been under a stricter lockdown than Thailand for a longer period, reported almost 4,000 new cases on Monday and 195 deaths. So what is Thailand doing right that India is doing wrong? India was sold loads of defective tests from China. Only 5% of them worked. They have new tests now and low and behold, lots of new positives. Imagine that. Anyone bother to find out if Thailand knows if their tests are accurate or not. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 2 hours ago, dinsdale said: I've been saying this for ages Prayut is taking this straight from the CCP playbook of non-transperency and misinformation. Well yes, he's getting direct help from Xinhua: https://www.thaienquirer.com/7301/thai-media-is-outsourcing-much-of-its-coronavirus-coverage-to-beijing-and-thats-just-the-start/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DirtyHarry55 Posted May 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 5, 2020 24 minutes ago, herwin1234 said: Another cynical and unfair bogus reply from a forum farang. Thailand handles this crisis very profesional with amazing results. Leaders who make their decsions based on facts and medical advice, and a united population who understands the seriousness of this crisis. The result is great, no chaos and a controlled epidemy. If you want to spout your cynical dribble save it for, ummmm. America? Leaders who politisize this crisis, encourage its citizens to be unruly and NOT comply with local crisis measurements, suggest injecting bleach might be a cure, and try to distract from their own failing by playing the blame game towards China and the WHO. Pure mismanagement. You can be happy that you are in Thailand during this crisis. Don't worry both Trump and Boris are getting a bashing for there crappy handling of the Crises but at least they are testing. That's nothing to do with Thailands poor management in the end they are just lucky to get away with it but it's not over yet. Consider this both Cambodia and Myanmar also have less cases than Thailand probably has more to do with climate than management. Certainly I don't think the warm climate stops the virus but certainly slows it down making it easier to manage. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fondue zoo Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 3 hours ago, Guderian said: Meanwhile India, which has been under a stricter lockdown than Thailand for a longer period, reported almost 4,000 new cases on Monday and 195 deaths. So what is Thailand doing right that India is doing wrong? creative accounting?? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SantiSuk Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 3 hours ago, Traubert said: So 187 then, not 2988. Good job, well done. ???? 187 people still in hospital - hell there's at least 187 hospital beds in my small amphur if you add up all the cottage hospitals to the main amphur public hospital. One wonders whether doctors and nurses are standing around doing nowt around the nation since people are still scared to go there for other treatments. It's not even as though the heroes have gone through a terribly rushed couple of months. I need to seek treatment, but my malady needs a private consultant in Bangkok. Money there to be made for the economy, but I can't risk going there as I must abide by the bogus* rules that there are inter-provincial travel restrictions * bogus - as in mostly not really being implemented (but you can't bet your travel sanity on that). Yes - I know in theory one would probably be able to get through checks if carrying an appointment e-mail but who wants to trust the randomness of the whole set-up when they have the power to isolate you for 14 days if they don't like yer face! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lkv Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 It's ok na khrap. Thailand safe. Everybody safe. We love Thailand. https://www.thaienquirer.com/12665/bts-failure-shows-the-vulnerability-of-restarting-businesses/ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavisH Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 14 minutes ago, dcnx said: India was sold loads of defective tests from China. Only 5% of them worked. They have new tests now and low and behold, lots of new positives. Imagine that. Anyone bother to find out if Thailand knows if their tests are accurate or not. My wife sent some of her nursing college staff to work at Bamrasnaradura Infectious Disease Institute. This was a few weeks ago. She mentioned about the use of covid tests, IIRC, from China also. They were unreliable and were giving both false positive and false negative results. They went back to more reliable tests, less 'rapid' tests. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 7 minutes ago, DavisH said: My wife sent some of her nursing college staff to work at Bamrasnaradura Infectious Disease Institute. This was a few weeks ago. She mentioned about the use of covid tests, IIRC, from China also. They were unreliable and were giving both false positive and false negative results. They went back to more reliable tests, less 'rapid' tests. BIDI has since gotten a spanking new machine and some reagents: It's unknown how long those donated reagents will last and how big a supply they have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revup Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 4 hours ago, 4MyEgo said: Give it time, now that the alcohol ban has been lifted and mostly Thai's, and some others getting closer together and not adhering to social distancing rules IMO. ???? Both sides form groups and both sides have those who forget about distancing. But, there are a lot more Thais over here than there are Falang, so yes it is mostly Thais. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post newnative Posted May 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 5, 2020 44 minutes ago, lkv said: It's ok na khrap. Thailand safe. Everybody safe. We love Thailand. https://www.thaienquirer.com/12665/bts-failure-shows-the-vulnerability-of-restarting-businesses/ What's pictured is apparently A-ok but we must stay out of those supposedly dangerous condo pools where you might swallow water that someone might have spit out that might have contained virus that might have somehow survived the chlorine and you might have opened your mouth at precisely the right time to manage to get that spoonful of water out of the million spoonfuls of water in the pool. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwill Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 5 hours ago, 4MyEgo said: Give it time, now that the alcohol ban has been lifted and mostly Thai's, and some others getting closer together and not adhering to social distancing rules IMO. ???? They never stopped where I lived. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aspenbkk Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 5 hours ago, graemeaylward said: Its because it was a holiday yesterday! I still cannot understand how the 40 out of 78 in the deep south who tested positive, twice, yesterday, can now just disappear from the stats! 4000 new cases confirmed today in India wait till they start coming back in like the Chinese all over again. On the rise in South Asia 2nd wave coming soon to Thailand if they let them in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 Inflammatory posts and replies have been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 6 hours ago, cyril sneer said: perfect time to re-introduce the alcohol ban Yes, time for officials to get their power trip fix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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