Swimming pools at condos in Thailand to remain closed until further notice

[Card]

3 hours ago, ericdiam said:

Really crazy. My building has 25m long very wide pool. Only 3 people who live here long time swim.

And if the increase the chlorine then sure zero problem as chlorine kills the virus. 

Big busy public pools can understand they remain close 

What a silly comment.

 

3 hours ago, Gabor said:

Plain idiots.... Chatucak is OK, but saunas ( killing the virus inside your body ) and swimming pools increase your immunity, beaches to get vitamin D are a nő no. An other fine example to do something retarded childish thing to show they do something. 

A second silly comment. How many Trumps are there in this world?

Edited May 12, 2020 by Card

[Kaopad999]

3 hours ago, Gabor said:

, but saunas ( killing the virus inside your body ) and swimming pools increase your immunity, beaches to get vitamin D are a nő no. An other fine example to do something retarded childish thing to show they do something. 

That is a complete fallacy. 
https://www.covid-19facts.com/?p=83981

[ThailandRyan]

Pool at my condo has been closed since they were told to close them.  However, the bathrooms and the showers in the facility are being used by some families as they are trying to save money themselves and as most of us pay fee's every month still, they figure why run there water and electric bill's up higher if they can still sit down there and shower.....of course the Sauna's are closed, so confused why the restroom facilities are open.  Of course I asked and was just given a blank look back in return by the juristic office....

[ianezy0]

51 minutes ago, Tropposurfer said:

Open the damned beaches and private condo pools you inept incompetent idiot.

You think Thailand is the only country to close public pools. Open your ears and eyes to see and hear how many other countries have done the same.

Edited May 12, 2020 by ianezy0

[kingstonkid]

3 hours ago, ericdiam said:

Really crazy. My building has 25m long very wide pool. Only 3 people who live here long time swim.

And if the increase the chlorine then sure zero problem as chlorine kills the virus. 

Big busy public pools can understand they remain close 

Problem I think is that for every condo that does look after their pool there are 2-3 that do not

[SkyFax]

59 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

0.1 ppm Free Available Chlorine in a swimming pool guarantees bacteria and viruses are morbid

Enveloped viruses are easier to kill: SARS-CoV-2, the virus responsible for the COVID-19 outbreak, is an enveloped virus and therefore the easiest to kill.

The World Health Organisation (WHO) states that a residual concentration of free chlorine of ≥0.5 mg/l in the pool water after at least 30 minutes of contact time at a pH <8.0 is sufficient to kill enveloped viruses like coronaviruses.

 

The main questions we’ve been asked are:

1. If my swimming pool is chlorinated according to current best practices and recommendations (Free Chlorine: 1-3ppm), is this sufficient to inactivate COVID-19 virus?

Yes, for a conventional swimming pool with good hydraulics and filtration, operating within its design bathing load, adequate water quality is achieved with a free chlorine level of ≥0.5-1.0ppm throughout the pool. Lower free chlorine concentrations (0.5 ppm or less) will be adequate when chlorine is used in combination with ozone or UV disinfection. 

 

https://www.zodiac.co.nz/are-pools-safe-during-covid-19

Edited May 12, 2020 by SkyFax

[Kaopad999]

2 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Muriatic acid and chlorine would vaporize and obliterate Covid upon contact. So saliva is a non starter. Simply more ignorance, and fear mongering, from an administration that is so devoid of scientific facts, it boggles the mind. Social distancing can be practiced anywhere. People need exercise, and recreation. And people need to be outdoors. This encourages better health, and strengthens the immune system. They should have gotten rid of Anutin a long time ago. The nation needs someone with an education in health. He has proven himself over and over again to be inept, ignorant, and in completely over his head. A true BOB (bottom of the barrel) pick, totally without merit. 

The bigger concern is contact with other people while swimming.

The key is still social distancing.  if you're in a pool and you're in close contact while not wearing a mask, then the virus can still be spread.

Then you may ask, well, why not wear a mask in a swimming pool?  Obviously swimming with a mask on your face can be dangerous for other reasons... 

[muffy]

Simple answer , condos save money with closed pools .Nobody complaining .

[Kaopad999]

13 minutes ago, ianezy0 said:

You think Thailand is the only country to close public pools. Open you your ears and eyes to see and hear how many other countries have done the same.

That is correct. many other countries have closed swimming pools. 

[n00dle]

2 minutes ago, muffy said:

Simple answer , condos save money with closed pools .Nobody complaining .

every condo i know of the pool remains full and filtration continues, none of them have drained the pools and pools are still maintained.

so where is the savings in that?

 

[Guderian]

They're simply incapable of looking ahead. If they believe that swimming pools are a danger now, then (short of a vaccine) why would that change in the future? In other words, either all communal swimming pools in Thailand will remain closed forever and you may as well convert them into fish ponds, or else in two weeks or two months they will reopen them, even though nothing important has changed, in which case the current closure is completely and utterly pointless.

[miamiman123]

Just do something... it doesn’t matter what...just do something!

unbelievable 

[samtam]

44 minutes ago, Pattaya46 said:

It has been said many times already; the problem is not the pool itself, but "there are fears that people will congregate or socialize around communal pool areas"

So stop people congregating and socialising at the pool.

There are 2 different issues: 1) swimming IN the pool, 2) sitting AROUND the pool.

It should not be beyond the wit of man, (or a building management company) to enforce  a prohibition on 2).

[Bob12345]

2 hours ago, tomazbodner said:

Should we call for Thailand to abandon all of the restrictions, open the borders for the influx of infected tourists, cancel all the quarantines, open all the bars, clubs, sports venues, beaches, pools, etc. Accept half to one million deaths and get over with it. But 6 months later when it is over, this forum will be a very quiet place, given average age of folks here.

Of course not.

 

They should lock everybody indoors, wait 6 months, and whoever is still alive by then can be unemployed, starving, and living on the streets.

 

The costs of covid will be thousands of deaths... 55 direct deaths so far, the rest will starve, shot by police trying to steal food, or jumping off a building.

 

Covid will be here tomorrow, next week, next month, next year... when can pools open? 0 cases for 14 days? Zero cases for 23 days, 5 cases in 48 days, when?

Edited May 12, 2020 by Bob12345

[sahibji]

3 hours ago, ericdiam said:

Really crazy. My building has 25m long very wide pool. Only 3 people who live here long time swim.

And if the increase the chlorine then sure zero problem as chlorine kills the virus. 

Big busy public pools can understand they remain close 

difficult to define borders.

[Lingba]

for what???...stupid

[StefanBBK]

2 hours ago, SkyFax said:

Chlorine does not kill COVID on contact:

 

To effectively kill the virus, make sure the surface stays wet with the disinfectant for at least 10 minutes before wiping with a clean towel. If an EPA registered disinfectant is not available a 2% chlorine bleach solution can be used.

 

https://necsi.edu/coronavirus-guidelines-for-cleaning-and-disinfecting-to-prevent-covid-19-transmission

 

Chlorine in swimming pool water is measured in single digit parts per million.

 

There is no evidence that the virus that causes COVID-19 can be spread to people through the water in pools, hot tubs, spas, or water play areas. Proper operation and maintenance (including disinfection with chlorine and bromine) of these facilities should inactivate the virus in the water.  https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/php/water.html

[phkauf]

3 hours ago, Canuck1966 said:

Thailand uses blunt instruments for every issue

"When all you have is a hammer, every solution is a nail."

Pretty much describes the inability of Thai Government officials to think outside the tiny box which they inhabit.

[samtam]

9 minutes ago, StefanBBK said:

There is no evidence that the virus that causes COVID-19 can be spread to people through the water in pools, hot tubs, spas, or water play areas. Proper operation and maintenance (including disinfection with chlorine and bromine) of these facilities should inactivate the virus in the water.  https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/php/water.html

This is exactly the line CDC in Bangkok gave me. "There is no evidence that the virus...can be spread to people through the water in pools"...but we'll keep them closed, just in case. On the other hand, there is evidence that not adhering to social distancing has caused transmission of the virus...so we'll open Chatuchak, beauty parlours, slimming centres, foot massage parlours...

There is NO logic. Oh, wait a minute...

Edited May 12, 2020 by samtam

[SS1]

3 hours ago, Oldie said:

They cannot make a special law for your building. And people can gather in and around the pool and because being wet cannot use masks. Also some people lying in the sun will avoid to use masks so that not halve of their face will remain white. 

Well, they could simply state that max. 10 people allowed at a time and social distancing must be applied, and maybe a maximum time per visitor. 

Someone might wonder how to enforce it? Well, they just announced that they're going to open Thai massages soon but only foot massage allowed ???? I guess this is going to work just as well as making sure there is no prostitution. Are the cops going to do a raid to make sure no other body parts have been touched by accident?

[benoit75]

Wow many specialists here ...

[Kaopad999]

Here come the Thai brasher brigade... 
Let's face, it, it does not matter how well the Thai's do , some people will always find a way to criticize and mock them. 
 

Edited May 12, 2020 by Kaopad999

[Bob A Kneale]

4 hours ago, ericdiam said:

Really crazy. My building has 25m long very wide pool. Only 3 people who live here long time swim.

Are you and the other two virus-free, and likely to remain that way?

Edited May 12, 2020 by Bob A Kneale

[robbioff]

1 hour ago, shady86 said:

What a brilliant statement to show how competent these idiots running the country. 

The world is laughing...

[StefanBBK]

22 minutes ago, samtam said:

This is exactly the line CDC in Bangkok gave me. "There is no evidence that the virus...can be spread to people through the water in pools"...but we'll keep them closed, just in case. On the other hand, there is evidence that not adhering to social distancing has caused transmission of the virus...so we'll open Chatuchak, beauty parlours, slimming centres, foot massage parlours...

There is NO logic. Oh, wait a minute...

Exactly. Our pool is well chlorinated and should not be dangerous at all. Besides what are the chances that one of the currently 163 infected people spreads his germs in our pool, probably lower than winning the lottery big....  People would have a better understanding for the rules, if they were applied with common sense. A walk through our local market is much more concerning.

 

[SkyFax]

From the actual WHO report referenced in my post above:

 

Water, sanitation, hygiene, and waste management
for the COVID-19 virus
Interim guidance
19 March 2020

"For effective centralized disinfection, there should be a residual concentration of free chlorine of ≥0.5 mg/L after at least 30 minutes of contact time at pH <8.0.

https://www.who.int/publications-detail/water-sanitation-hygiene-and-waste-management-for-covid-19

 

The CDC report referenced makes no mention of the lag time required to neutralize the virus in a swimming pool. I only first responded this topic to the post that claimed that chlorinated pool water kills the virus instantaneously.

 

Edited May 12, 2020 by SkyFax

[Paiman]

Been swimming in my Koi Pond for years, but still......utter BS.

 

Statistically most people die in bed.... Hey Boss, we need a new law. Let's do some brainstorming.

[Jimbo2014]

Direct from the CDC

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/php/water.html 

 

There is no evidence that the virus that causes COVID-19 can be spread to people through the water in pools, hot tubs, spas, or water play areas. Proper operation and maintenance (including disinfection with chlorine and bromine) of these facilities should inactivate the virus in the water.

While there is ongoing community spread of COVID-19 of the virus that causes COVID-19, it is important for individuals as well as owners and operators of these facilities to take steps to ensure health and safety:

• Everyone should follow local and state guidance that may determine when and how recreational water facilities may operate.
• Individuals should continue to protect themselves and others at recreational water venues both in and out of the water – for example, by practicing social distancing and good hand hygiene.
• In addition to ensuring water safety and quality, owners and operators of community pools, hot tubs, spas, and water play areas should follow the interim guidance for businesses and employers for cleaning and disinfecting their community facilities.

[RedPill]

4 hours ago, Oldie said:

They cannot make a special law for your building. And people can gather in and around the pool and because being wet cannot use masks. Also some people lying in the sun will avoid to use masks so that not halve of their face will remain white. 

Yes, they could specially remove that law ...

 

[mighty]

1 hour ago, Card said:

What a silly comment.

 

A second silly comment. How many Trumps are there in this world?

Ahhh, and another world renowned virus expert. Well, you've sorted it all out then.