British minister says 'move on' from rage over PM adviser Cummings' road trip

[Loiner]

15 minutes ago, 7by7 said:

 

 

 

Duffield has apologised and resigned; when will Cummings do the same?

 

 

More 49er twisted facts. She hasn't resigned - she's still an MP. 

Only stood down as Labour whip. Would it be OK if Dom stood down from the seat next to Boris, but is still an advisor?

[7by7]

1 minute ago, Loiner said:

Come on make your mind up. First you say a majority is greater than 50%. Then you say they didn't get a majority. 

 I didn't say they got more than 50%. They didn't, they got 43.6%.

 

Despite your pathetic attempts to deny that; it is a fact.

 

3 minutes ago, Loiner said:

Your maths are as twisted as your politics. At least my maths concur with the results of the referendum and elections results.

I've never disputed the referendum result. 51.9% is more than 50%.

 

Your maths do not concur with the election result, though. As proven.

 

I see you rightly condemn those who have told lies to condemn Cummings' trip. Will you now do the same for the lies told by number 10 to defend him?

[vogie]

42 minutes ago, Bruntoid said:

Wow I don’t think questions can get easier than A or B, how wrong I was still moving on....

 

Where did the police say he ‘had no case to answer’ get that exact quote please as I consistently read it was a minor breach of the law (for which others have already been fined) 
 

So Rosie Duffield caught stupidly  sneaking off for a bit of hows your father and honourably resigns when caught, where’s the comparison with Cummings who clearly hasn’t  got the guts she has and drives a 4 year old around to ‘test’ his eyesight ? 

Your A and B question is a loaded question, you are stating that they both flouted the law, the police are saying that there was a minor transgression, the Yorkshire Ripper didn't get as much a vociferous attack as Dom is getting, and what for, a minor breach of the law, but that's enough for the 'hangum high vigilantes'

But why can't the lynch mob be a little more honest about the reason they despise Dom so much, it has very little to do with his minor breach of the law, and I have known you long enough to know that you know this too.

[7by7]

2 minutes ago, Loiner said:

20 minutes ago, 7by7 said:

 

 

 

Duffield has apologised and resigned; when will Cummings do the same?

 

 

More 49er twisted facts. She hasn't resigned - she's still an MP. 

Only stood down as Labour whip. Would it be OK if Dom stood down from the seat next to Boris, but is still an advisor?

 

She apologised and resigned from her position as a whip. 

 

Who has told lies on her behalf as number 10 did for Cummings? No one.

 

Cummings has done nothing except make up feeble excuses 

 

If Cummings did the same and resigned from his position as an advisor, he would be following her example.

[Loiner]

1 minute ago, 7by7 said:

 I didn't say they got more than 50%. They didn't, they got 43.6%.

 

Despite your pathetic attempts to deny that; it is a fact.

 

I've never disputed the referendum result. 51.9% is more than 50%.

 

Your maths do not concur with the election result, though. As proven.

 

I see you rightly condemn those who have told lies to condemn Cummings' trip. Will you now do the same for the lies told by number 10 to defend him?

Not sure that you have never disputed the referendum result, but can't be arrrsd to trawl through all your posts to prove you wrong again.

 

Yep, my maths concur with the election result - Boris is in No.10 because he had the majority. It's the way we count 'em.

 

No I don't condemn any of them, mainly because I don't care too much. They are doing a marvelous job in the face of adversity from the Left. I do condemn everything from Remainers, the Left and MSM though. And virtue signalers with their testicles in a twist like yourself. 

[7by7]

2 minutes ago, vogie said:

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Your A and B question is a loaded question, you are stating that they both flouted the law, the police are saying that there was a minor transgression,

Yes, a minor transgression by them both.

 

One has apologised and resigned her position as a party whip.

 

The other's office at number 10 told lies on his behalf. When these lies were exposed he made up a ridiculous excuse, whilst arrogantly answering questions about the Barnard Castle trip breaking the rules with "Others may think that, I don't."

 

 

 

[transam]

15 minutes ago, 7by7 said:

The following points have been raised many times; but as yet not a single Cummings defender has had the guts to respond to them. Will one of you do so this time?

 

Number 10 said on 30th March that Cummings and his family were self isolating in their London home. A lie, by this time they were already in Durham.

 

Number 10 said that Durham police had not spoken to Cummings' father. A lie, they had.

 

Number 10 said that Cummings and his family had not driven to Barnard Castle on Wakefield's birthday. A lie, they had.

 

So Number 10 lied about Cummings on at least three occasions. The important question is why?

 

If it was done on his behalf but without his knowledge then the person responsible should resign or be sacked.

 

If it was done with Cummings' knowledge, or worse on his instruction, then Cummings must go.

 

But what the Prime minister knew about these lies at the time, or worst of all was responsible for them? 

 

Honourable politicians have resigned for less.

 

Corbyn never resigned for more or less.....????

[Loiner]

6 minutes ago, 7by7 said:

 

She apologised and resigned from her position as a whip. 

 

 

If Cummings did the same and resigned from his position as an advisor, he would be following her example.

No hew wouldn't. He wouldn't resign his job, just as she hasn't. He would still be there doing his job advising and getting us out of the EU, maybe sitting in a different seat. 
Another attempted twist in 49's tales.

[7by7]

1 minute ago, Loiner said:

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Yep, my maths concur with the election result - Boris is in No.10 because he had the majority. It's the way we count 'em.

 Then you maths are at odds with the official result and the rep[orts and commentaries from all the media; from alt-right to looney left and everything in between.

 

The Tories do have the majority of seats, but that is not what you said. You said that the majority of the electorate voted for them; that is not true.

 

I can't be bothered with any further attempts to teach you maths, so if you try again to convince everyone that 43.6 is more than 50, I wont be responding.

 

Your 'I know my place' forelock tugging last paragraph is really sad.

[7by7]

7 minutes ago, transam said:

Corbyn never resigned for more or less.....????

How many times has Number 10 told lies on Corbyn's behalf?

 

Oh, none. For starters, he was never Prime Minister!

 

Come on, if you can't do better than that, don't bother trying!

[7by7]

7 minutes ago, Loiner said:

No hew wouldn't. He wouldn't resign his job, just as she hasn't. He would still be there doing his job advising and getting us out of the EU, maybe sitting in a different seat. 
Another attempted twist in 49's tales.

 

She has resigned from her job as a party whip.

 

She hasn't resigned as an MP. Her constituents will decide on that issue come the next election. Just as the country will decide on Johnson.

 

But one thing is clear; unlike Cummings she has apologised and no one has told lies to try and defend her.

 

 

[Loiner]

24 minutes ago, vogie said:

 

 

But why can't the lynch mob be a little more honest about the reason they despise Dom so much, it has very little to do with his minor breach of the law, and I have known you long enough to know that you know this too.

We all know that the MSM hysteria is on an almost personal level because they all hate Dominic Cummings so much. He orchestrated so much of the Left's continued demise that he is their anti-Christ. To be honest I'd never heard of a mere Tory apparatchik until one of the lefties brought up his name on these boards sometime ago.  

 

Secondary to their vilification, is the need to fill their pages with something current and deflecting from the EU's failings in Brexit talks. Dom's travels and lockdown is a win-win-win for them. Covid - Cummings - Coverup of the risible performance of Barnier and the EU in the negotiations, which are drifting towards a No Deal Brexit due to EU intransigence.  

Edited May 31, 2020 by Loiner

[transam]

9 minutes ago, 7by7 said:

How many times has Number 10 told lies on Corbyn's behalf?

 

Oh, none. For starters, he was never Prime Minister!

 

Come on, if you can't do better than that, don't bother trying!

Oh, so Corby never cavorted with the IRA, never got paid by the terrorist Iranian regime, and never apologised for it either.......   

 

Edited May 31, 2020 by transam

[Loiner]

9 minutes ago, 7by7 said:

 Then you maths are at odds with the official result and the rep[orts and commentaries from all the media; from alt-right to looney left and everything in between.

 

The Tories do have the majority of seats, but that is not what you said. You said that the majority of the electorate voted for them; that is not true.

 

I can't be bothered with any further attempts to teach you maths, so if you try again to convince everyone that 43.6 is more than 50, I wont be responding.

 

Your 'I know my place' forelock tugging last paragraph is really sad.

Pedantry is getting you nowhere. Yes, the electorate majority.

Your leftist do more tugging than just forelocks, being a bunch of peddlers. Political zombies who can only follow the part lines.

[Loiner]

7 minutes ago, 7by7 said:

 

She has resigned from her job as a party whip.

 

She hasn't resigned as an MP. 

 

 

More pedantry. She hasn't really resigned has she?

Can't you twist this with percentages somehow?  "She has reigned, not 100% but a majority resignation percentage."

[7by7]

If this is all a left wing media plot, how come it's been all over the right wing press such as the Mail, Telegraph and Express, as well?

 

How come those papers have been just as critical of his actions as any of the left wing press such as the Guardian?

 

Blaming the media for the hole Cummings has dug for himself, with Johnson's help, is pure desperation.

 

OK, it was the Mirror and Guardian who first reported on this and if they hadn't we wouldn't know about it. But if Cummings had had the balls to own up and apologise when it was first reported it would all be over and those reports would have been wrapping chips the next day (if the chippies were open).

 

It's not his breaking lockdown which has caused all the furore and calls for him to go. It's the lies from Number 10, a contradictory Spectator article written by Cummings wife, an arrogant press conference in which he placed himself above the general population and a pathetic excuse for taking his wife on a birthday trip with their son.

 

 

[7by7]

9 minutes ago, transam said:

Oh, so Corby never cavorted with the IRA, never got paid by the terrorist Iranian regime, and never apologised for it either.......   

 

 Was he Prime Minister when he did any of these?

 

Of course, he was heavily criticised in the media, left and right wing.

 

I see you have resorted to the 'two wrongs make a right' argument.

[kingdong]

1 minute ago, 7by7 said:

 Was he Prime Minister when he did any of these?

 

Of course, he was heavily criticised in the media, left and right wing.

 

I see you have resorted to the 'two wrongs make a right' argument.

 

1 minute ago, 7by7 said:

 Was he Prime Minister when he did any of these?

 

Of course, he was heavily criticised in the media, left and right wing.

 

I see you have resorted to the 'two wrongs make a right' argument.

Corbyn had his judgement day at the election,the people decided,never mind spiel about punters who couldn,t be bothered to vote and red buses.

[Sujo]

He will resign. Anyone with an ounce of morals would. An advisor with a truth issue is not a great look. So Boris will tell him, you go or i tell u to go.

 

Thats what a leader does. Im sure it will happen. Soon.

[transam]

1 minute ago, 7by7 said:

 Was he Prime Minister when he did any of these?

 

Of course, he was heavily criticised in the media, left and right wing.

 

I see you have resorted to the 'two wrongs make a right' argument.

Was Cummings ever PM......?

 

Cummings was instrumental in getting us out of the EU, instrumental in a Tory landslide victory, Cummings was investigated by the police and was cleared. Cummings is also a key government personnel member, and folk like you want him buried....How sad, can't think further than your lefty stance...

[Sujo]

Just now, kingdong said:

 

Corbyn had his judgement day at the election,the people decided,never mind spiel about punters who couldn,t be bothered to vote and red buses.

Which has nothing to do with his post.

[kingdong]

1 minute ago, Sujo said:

He will resign. Anyone with an ounce of morals would. An advisor with a truth issue is not a great look. So Boris will tell him, you go or i tell u to go.

 

Thats what a leader does. Im sure it will happen. Soon.

 

1 minute ago, Sujo said:

He will resign. Anyone with an ounce of morals would. An advisor with a truth issue is not a great look. So Boris will tell him, you go or i tell u to go.

 

Thats what a leader does. Im sure it will happen. Soon.

Like Blair did with Alistair campbell?

[Sujo]

Just now, transam said:

Was Cummings ever PM......?

 

Cummings was instrumental in getting us out of the EU, instrumental in a Tory landslide victory, Cummings was investigated by the police and was cleared. Cummings is also a key government personnel member, and folk like you want him buried....How sad, can't think further than your lefty stance...

Cummngs blatantly lied to everyone. He broke his own leaders rules. Then doesnt give a toss about it, too bad, suck it uo, dont need to follow rules. Thats for the plebs.

 

And this from a key govt personnel member.

 

Some people will accept anything. The ends must justify the means.

[Sujo]

2 minutes ago, kingdong said:

 

Like Blair did with Alistair campbell?

Yes ????

[transam]

4 minutes ago, Sujo said:

Cummngs blatantly lied to everyone. He broke his own leaders rules. Then doesnt give a toss about it, too bad, suck it uo, dont need to follow rules. Thats for the plebs.

 

And this from a key govt personnel member.

 

Some people will accept anything. The ends must justify the means.

Did he lie to the police investigation.....?

[7by7]

11 minutes ago, Loiner said:

More pedantry. She hasn't really resigned has she?

Can't you twist this with percentages somehow?  "She has reigned, not 100% but a majority resignation percentage."

She has resigned as a party whip; fact. She has also apologised; fact.

 

Cummings has not resigned from anything; fact. He has not apologised; fact.

 

What about Tory MPs who have been caught breaking the lockdown, such as Robert Jenrick.

He hasn't even resigned as a minister, let alone as an MP!

 

 

 

 

 

[7by7]

16 minutes ago, kingdong said:

 

Corbyn had his judgement day at the election,the people decided,never mind spiel about punters who couldn,t be bothered to vote and red buses.

 Quite agree; but your remarks should be directed to @transam, not I as it were he who brought Corbyn into this!

[transam]

2 minutes ago, 7by7 said:

She has resigned as a party whip; fact. She has also apologised; fact.

 

Cummings has not resigned from anything; fact. He has not apologised; fact.

 

What about Tory MPs who have been caught breaking the lockdown, such as Robert Jenrick.

He hasn't even resigned as a minister, let alone as an MP!

 

 

 

 

 

So what, you are more interested in burying Tory's because you haven't got over a couple of big losses. 

 

[evadgib]

Cummings is neither a minister or an MP. Firing him at the behest of an MSM/Rejoiner lead lynch mob without due legal process would inevitably end in successful prosecution at an employment tribunal.

Edited May 31, 2020 by evadgib

[7by7]

22 minutes ago, transam said:

Was Cummings ever PM......?

No, but at the very least he is the PM's right hand man. 

 

It is also unknown why Number 10 lied on his behalf and on whose authority. What if it was it Johnson's?

 

15 minutes ago, transam said:

Did he lie to the police investigation.....?

Probably not as the lies told on his behalf by Number 10 had by then been exposed as such.

 

What does Durham police's statement on Dominic Cummings tell us?