London's statues from 'bygone' imperial past to be reviewed, mayor says

[vogie]

22 minutes ago, Airbagwill said:

I would even question the motivation of critics of these protests....why are they do keen suddenly yo preserve imagery of a history of which they are so clearly unaware?

 

There is no "motivation of critics of these protests," the people who critisize the unlawfull rowdy behaviour of these vandals are actually law abiding citizens who like democracy and a say what should be removed and what should stay. I would suggest that these demonstrators are actually far left activists who have tried to gain power by the ballot box and failed and now have found another platform to voice their ideoligies, Keir Starmer has finally realised this and after putting his foot in it is now trying to distance himself from them.

[evadgib]

Moves are afoot to force the appropriate authorities to fully restore and re-seat Coulson and Milligan's statues in their original positions, citing their 'listed monuments' status. The chances of legal action succeeding must be pretty high because failure would render all listed buildings/structures in UK 'fair game' so to speak and I can't see HMG wearing that! ????

 

(Citizen Khan and both councils have been served with the appropriate docs)

[Bluespunk]

12 hours ago, 4reaL said:

 

London used to be a nice town once, ehh?

 

 

And what do you mean by that comment?

[kingdong]

26 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

And what do you mean by that comment?

when there was law and order?

[Airbagwill]

13 hours ago, 4reaL said:

 

London used to be a nice town once, ehh?

 

 

so can you explain both WHEN and WHY?

[kingdong]

7 hours ago, spiekerjozef said:

How long will it take before they start with the Chinese wall....

just after hadrians wall.

[Airbagwill]

5 hours ago, evadgib said:

Moves are afoot to force the appropriate authorities to fully restore and re-seat Coulson and Milligan's statues in their original positions, citing their 'listed monuments' status. The chances of legal action succeeding must be pretty high because failure would render all listed buildings/structures in UK 'fair game' so to speak and I can't see HMG wearing that! ????

 

(Citizen Khan and both councils have been served with the appropriate docs)

I'd say you have no idea what a "listed" building is or why and how it is protected. In fact the stats of Coulson's statue would give good grounds for any listing - if there is any - to be reviewed and modified..

[Airbagwill]

7 hours ago, spiekerjozef said:

How long will it take before they start with the Chinese wall....

This kind of comment shows how little understanding of history and its preservation some people have. The idea behind the re-assessment of these statues is to get a more REAL interpretation of history not the jingoist schoolboy nonsense that so many on this thread appear to adhere to. They ae in fact good evidence of how this ignorance of historical significance can affect people's thinking and understanding of their own history.

 

"Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Those who do not remember their past are condemned to repeat their mistakes. Those who do not read history are doomed to repeat it. Those who fail to learn from the mistakes of their predecessors are destined to repeat them." - George Santayana

Edited June 30, 2020 by Airbagwill

[Bluespunk]

25 minutes ago, kingdong said:

when there was law and order?

You didn’t make the comment, so why not let the person who did answer. 

[tifino]

24 minutes ago, Airbagwill said:

13 hours ago, 4reaL said:

 

London used to be a nice town once, ehh?

 

 

so can you explain both WHEN and WHY?

well, compare the future against up until the Present...

 - soon there won't be anywhere known to lure the pidgeon poo away from where you are sitting

[evadgib]

34 minutes ago, Airbagwill said:

I'd say you have no idea what a "listed" building is or why and how it is protected. In fact the stats of Coulson's statue would give good grounds for any listing - if there is any - to be reviewed and modified..

Correct; Fortunately the legal professional behind it does know what he's doing therefore my input wasn't necessary.

Edited June 30, 2020 by evadgib

[kingdong]

1 hour ago, Bluespunk said:

You didn’t make the comment, so why not let the person who did answer. 

if you want a personal reply pm him and don,t put it on an open forumn.

[kingdong]

On 6/17/2020 at 2:41 PM, elliss said:

  

Do you mean zero hour contracts in the UK.

    Britain's , never shall be slaves, join in the chorus ..

  

the zero hour  contracts were a direct result of freedom of movement from the eu with an influx of labour taking jobs to the detriment in conditions to the british worker.

[Bluespunk]

16 minutes ago, kingdong said:

if you want a personal reply pm him and don,t put it on an open forumn.

No.
 

They made the comment on an open forum and I’d like them to explain it on the same open forum. 

Edited June 30, 2020 by Bluespunk

[Airbagwill]

30 minutes ago, kingdong said:

the zero hour  contracts were a direct result of freedom of movement from the eu with an influx of labour taking jobs to the detriment in conditions to the british worker.

Most of EU doesn't have zero hours -  many outlaw these contracts completely, others heavily restrict them, or don’t see them widely used.

In UK Wetherspoons have 80% employed on zero hours. McDs, Sports Direct, most fast food all love zero contract - as do most of the "bosses" organisations in the UK......... 

[kingdong]

3 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

No.
 

They made the comment on an open forum and I’d like them to explain it on the same open forum. 

well whats stopping them?

[kingdong]

2 hours ago, Airbagwill said:

Most of EU doesn't have zero hours -  many outlaw these contracts completely, others heavily restrict them, or don’t see them widely used.

In UK Wetherspoons have 80% employed on zero hours. McDs, Sports Direct, most fast food all love zero contract - as do most of the "bosses" organisations in the UK......... 

and they love the cheap labour from the poorer countries of the eu.and they wonder why the british people voted to leave.

[thaibeachlovers]

3 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

No.
 

They made the comment on an open forum and I’d like them to explain it on the same open forum. 

For all you know he didn't see your post, or perhaps he just doesn't care about what you want.

[kingdong]

3 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

For all you know he didn't see your post, or perhaps he just doesn't care about what you want.

won,t be losing a nights sleep over it just don,t like ignorance.

[Bluespunk]

3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

For all you know he didn't see your post, or perhaps he just doesn't care about what you want.

Yeah sure, that’s why...

[faraday]

Don't fret BP, I expect 4real is looking for a link from the Guardian....

 

????

[bert bloggs]

So when are there going to be protests about the Pyramids,they were built with slave labour ,they must be torn down.

[VocalNeal]

On 6/9/2020 at 6:07 PM, snoop1130 said:

As many as 17 million African men, women and children were torn from their homes

...by Africans. Then dragged to the coast and sold to Europeans. Agreed neither party had to do it but it was not one sided.

[Kadilo]

21 minutes ago, bert bloggs said:

So when are there going to be protests about the Pyramids,they were built with slave labour ,they must be torn down.

(......someone tell him that’s been posted a zillion time’s already zzzzzz)

[bert bloggs]

8 minutes ago, Kadilo said:

(......someone tell him that’s been posted a zillion time’s already zzzzzz)

sorry i have a life so ,dont read everything ,only come on a couple of times a day for a short time.sorry if this is all you have. .

[Bluespunk]

5 hours ago, faraday said:

Don't fret BP, I expect 4real is looking for a link from the Guardian...

 

????

Nah, that’s not the reason...

Edited July 1, 2020 by Bluespunk

[Bluespunk]

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[CorpusChristie]

13 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

You didn’t make the comment, so why not let the person who did answer. 

Open forum, anyone can answer , and if the person who you put the quaetion to  doesnt want to answer , they are not obliged to answer 

[Bluespunk]

7 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

Open forum, anyone can answer , and if the person who you put the quaetion to  doesnt want to answer , they are not obliged to answer 

Ah, the irony of that coming from you.
 

Yeah, that’s true...but it’s ok. I recognise them for what they are. 

Edited July 1, 2020 by Bluespunk

[CorpusChristie]

1 minute ago, Bluespunk said:

Ah, the irony of that coming from you.
 

Yeah, that’s true...but it’s ok. I recognise them for what they are. 

Do explain the "irony" 

(You dont have to answer BTW, up to you)