8 hours ago, FarangULong said:

Not to mention that mail in vote is so easily exploitable, fraud wise. See the last Austrian presidential election, for further reference... People were even caught selling their voting cards online (on sites similar to craigslist).

Since landtrout seems to be stalking me now, and doing his sad/laugh/confused emotes on most of my posts, I will elaborate:

 

But on 1 July, since Hofer had lost to Van der Bellen by 30,863 votes and the Court found that more than twice that number (77,926^[87]) had been affected by breaches of the electoral code,^[86] The Constitutional Court ordered that the second round be held again.^[85] Noting the irregularities, the Court said in a statement: "It is completely clear to the Constitutional Court that laws regulating an election must be rigorously applied ... This must rule out abuse and manipulations."^[88]

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Austrian_presidential_election#Result_cancelled

 

The problem is, that voters here are dumb and punish a party for causing re-elections (not a one of thing, happens pretty much everytime there is a coalition break up, etc.), so Hofer ended up losing far more decisively. Unfortunately.

 

And that was only the fraud and the irregularities they could prove for sure. The double votes were people abusing the mail in voting system, which was almost exclusively the people voting for the green party candidate (van der bellen, who only got elected because all hte other parties banded together telling their voters to vote for him in the head on head round, as we can't have a patriotic president... we need an old lefty with brown teeth etc instead, as that's such a great representation for our country...). People were indeed caught selling their vote in cards. Certain heads of families from a certain religious group would collect mail vote cards from the family, to make sure all votes go to the social dems (and in the final round to the green party guy). I can provide sources for all of this, but I guess it won't matter to Mr. Landtrout... for certain people only their rose coloured view of the World counts, not actual facts...

 

If you think the same or similar abuse is impossible in the US, then I actually pity you. Mail voting is seriously flawed, and very hard to keep track of.

11 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

In principle you are right. But an old man is still better than a mental manic moron.

You must have experience in both.

1 hour ago, checkered flag said:

12 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

In principle you are right. But an old man is still better than a mental manic moron.

You must have experience in both.

I watch US news.

On 6/12/2020 at 11:08 AM, webfact said:

he is confident soldiers would escort Trump from the White House if he loses and does not recognize the result.

 

Joe has apparently so little going for him he has to resort to such ridiculous OTT comments to try and dredge up some support.

I said before on TVF that it's just another ploy by losers to try and attack Trump by implying stupid things might happen if he lost.

Apart from no chance he would try and remain in the W H, it wouldn't take the military to remove him. The legitimate president would just order the secret service to do so. Once the next president takes over the previous has no power over the levers of state. The only way Trump could remain would be if the military had a coup to keep him and of that there is no chance.

12 hours ago, Scott Tracy said:

This is his biggest concern? 

 

This surely reflects badly on him and his view of the American processes. Trump will say it's my Whitehouse, never mind what the voters say. And soldiers will march him out? 

 

Good grief, get a grip old son. You really want to be president of the United States of America?

From what I read on TVF Biden has clearly lost it, but saying in public what is a looney tunes conspiracy theory confirms it for me. No matter how bad the US has become it's no equivalent of 1930s Germany. To understand that one needs to have some knowledge of history, but I'm sure those that don't can google the rise of Hitler.

Not even an issue. Trump has lost 20% of his extremely loyal base in the past 6 weeks. His consistent failures and his inability to keep his mouth shut is tantamount to shooting himself in the foot daily. He is gone, baby gone. He will be defeated by 8 million votes, thereby canceling out the toxic electoral college and any GOP shenanigans. See ya! You are not going to be missed. 

Biden saying something so painfully obvious, that it must only be meant for the consumption of morons.

       There has always been something wrong with the American voting system, Trump won the last election, but, had less votes nationwide than Clinton. ????

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

 

Joe has apparently so little going for him he has to resort to such ridiculous OTT comments to try and dredge up some support.

I said before on TVF that it's just another ploy by losers to try and attack Trump by implying stupid things might happen if he lost.

Apart from no chance he would try and remain in the W H, it wouldn't take the military to remove him. The legitimate president would just order the secret service to do so. Once the next president takes over the previous has no power over the levers of state. The only way Trump could remain would be if the military had a coup to keep him and of that there is no chance.

What we can expect is that if Trump loses the election he will launch volley after volley of angry tweets alleging voter fraud. And given his support of a mob of armed supporters who invaded the Michigan state capitol, - he actually urged Michigan to negotiate with them! -I doubt he would discourage angry supporters all too liable to believe nonsensical conspiracy theories -from taking similar actions

      I can understand Bidens comment, He knows that Trump is a bombastic, self opionated, stubborn, mental moron, who thinks he's the best thing since sliced bread. Even with a Democratic landslide victory, Trump would plead its been fixed.

5 minutes ago, grumpy 4680 said:

      I can understand Bidens comment, He knows that Trump is a bombastic, self opionated, stubborn, mental moron, who thinks he's the best thing since sliced bread. Even with a Democratic landslide victory, Trump would plead its been fixed.

We know from the 2016 election that Trump made all sorts of ridiculous claims about voter fraud.

3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

 

Joe has apparently so little going for him he has to resort to such ridiculous OTT comments to try and dredge up some support.

I said before on TVF that it's just another ploy by losers to try and attack Trump by implying stupid things might happen if he lost.

Apart from no chance he would try and remain in the W H, it wouldn't take the military to remove him. The legitimate president would just order the secret service to do so. Once the next president takes over the previous has no power over the levers of state. The only way Trump could remain would be if the military had a coup to keep him and of that there is no chance.

OMG coming from a supporter of the KING of Conspiracies LOL Biden is smart to point out trump goes to every possible corrupt means to win. God help us that he could win again though. birther this Thai

On 6/11/2020 at 6:27 PM, Mama Noodle said:

 

There are states in the USA that dont even require an ID to vote (All of them are democrat states) 

 

And yet somehow, and for some reason, the American left has deemed this procedure as racist voter suppression because they know it will benefit them. 

Wyoming
Nebraska
Massachusetts
Maryland
Vermont

 

All No ID required....all with republican govs...so not entirely accurate there are we? (And yes I consider the Gov of the State the determining factor of party status since you guys love to blame dem govs and dem mayors two months ago for pandemic outbreaks)

2 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Not even an issue. Trump has lost 20% of his extremely loyal base in the past 6 weeks. His consistent failures and his inability to keep his mouth shut is tantamount to shooting himself in the foot daily. He is gone, baby gone. He will be defeated by 8 million votes, thereby canceling out the toxic electoral college and any GOP shenanigans. See ya! You are not going to be missed. 

I will miss how everyday his news is just the worst. The Presidency is the laughing stock of the world and that I will be glad will stop

Truly a banana republic if this kind of rhetoric is necessary. In Western democracies, those who are voted out leave office without any help from the military required.

1 hour ago, Cryingdick said:

Biden saying something so painfully obvious, that it must only be meant for the consumption of morons.

You do mean yourself!

8 minutes ago, Caldera said:

Truly a banana republic if this kind of rhetoric is necessary. In Western democracies, those who are voted out leave office without any help from the military required.

Apparently there are some that actually believe everything they read as long as it's against Trump.

 

7 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Apparently there are some that actually believe everything they read as long as it's against Trump.

 

Not to worry Attorney General Harris will have enough handcuffs for trump and his entire family after sworn in in January 2021.

We should settle our political arguments with a baseball game. Lefties vs. righties, then we will know who to send out to pitch. So much rancour and vitriol when the choice is between Humpty and Dumpty

On 6/12/2020 at 6:08 AM, webfact said:

Biden says military would help oust Trump if he loses election but refuses to leave

What kind of a <deleted> question and headline is this.  What is next. How would Biden respond if Trump threatened New York with a Nuclear Bomb.  Or What would Biden do if Trump ordered the 7th Fleet to invade California.  

2 hours ago, Cryingdick said:

Biden saying something so painfully obvious, that it must only be meant for the consumption of morons.

correct. It was meant for trump supporters.

48 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Apparently there are some that actually believe everything they read as long as it's against Trump.

 

Apparently there are some that cannot count trumps lies.

Just now, Sujo said:

Apparently there are some that cannot count trumps lies.

Would you like me to give you a rundown of Dem President lies? Such as Bill "C-Stain/Perjury" Clinton? Barrack "I got a nobel peace prize for promising a troop withdrawl, only to double troop strenght as soon as I took office" Obama?

 

Every politicians lies/"lies" and/or makes promises, that for some reason or other turns out to be unrealistic.

49 minutes ago, Thomas J said:

What kind of a <deleted> question and headline is this.  What is next. How would Biden respond if Trump threatened New York with a Nuclear Bomb.  Or What would Biden do if Trump ordered the 7th Fleet to invade California.  

Jesus Christ don't give this mad man any more ideas!

1 hour ago, Caldera said:

Truly a banana republic if this kind of rhetoric is necessary. In Western democracies, those who are voted out leave office without any help from the military required.

true but fear the crazy trump and his gun toting supporters. third graders are not to be trusted.

1 hour ago, Caldera said:

Truly a banana republic if this kind of rhetoric is necessary. In Western democracies, those who are voted out leave office without any help from the military required.

Your banana republic is Biden even saying something so idiotic.

Some troll posts and the replies have been removed. 

Ouch, this has got to hurt!

 

Oddsmakers say Joe Biden is the favorite over Donald Trump in the 2020

 

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Joe Biden -137, implied probability 52.6%
Donald Trump +125, implied probability 40.5%

 

2 hours ago, FarangULong said:

Would you like me to give you a rundown of Dem President lies? Such as Bill "C-Stain/Perjury" Clinton? Barrack "I got a nobel peace prize for promising a troop withdrawl, only to double troop strenght as soon as I took office" Obama?

 

Every politicians lies/"lies" and/or makes promises, that for some reason or other turns out to be unrealistic.

trump's currently running at more than 19,000 fact checked lies and misinformation since he became President. Obama and Clinton are way behind trump's efforts to date, no comparison whatsoever.

2 hours ago, rabas said:

Your banana republic is Biden even saying something so idiotic.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-psychopath-try-steal-2020-175856203.html