In London skirmishes, suspected far-right protester is rescued

[nausea]

If I was thinking of an embarrassing photo for a far right protester, that would be it. It's almost porno in its implications; that guy will never hold his head up high at a BNP meeting, that's for sure. 

[sungod]

1 hour ago, RuamRudy said:

 

 

 

Edit: Based on Rimmer's insertion above this post, I have removed one of the Twitter posts as the reporter did not have a blue tick. The one remaining is from a verified BBC reporter. 

Which one was doing the nazi salute?

[Baerboxer]

3 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

As I said there were acts of idiocy, nothing compared to yesterdays thuggery mind, but it was not an 'attack' on London.

 

Protests were expected yesterday, not an attack. However the BLM, to prevent violence threatened by those claiming they were coming to 'defend statues', called it off.

 

The right did not and when found could not do as they wished, launched attacks on police

 

Go figure eh...

 

Hmmm. Firing fireworks at police officers and assaulting them.

 

If carried out by extreme left wing groups you call it idiocy. If carried out by extreme right groups/football hooligans you call it thuggery.

 

I don't differentiate criminal actions based on the political beliefs of those carrying them out. 

 

You and Mayor Khan apparently do.

[Krataiboy]

4 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said:

In laymans terms, a man that does not want to surrender British culture and history to a revisionist leftist mob. Nice of the police to finally spring into action, although I did not see scenes of mass looting like when the BLM were "protesting". Wonder why the patriotic pro-statue crowd deserved a beat down?

Anyone who believes these protests are spontaneous and not meant to serve a wider agenda is living in cloud cuckoo land.

[RuamRudy]

1 minute ago, sungod said:

Which one was doing the nazi salute?

None of them. My mistake, they are all salt of the earth, peace loving, good, honest and upright individuals who would bring an air of joy and calm to any street that was lucky enough to have them live there. 

[sungod]

Just now, RuamRudy said:

None of them. My mistake, they are all salt of the earth, peace loving, good, honest and upright individuals who would bring an air of joy and calm to any street that was lucky enough to have them live there. 

Please stop posting fake news then and causing unnecessary division.

[welovesundaysatspace]

17 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

Who was you quoting ?

Who said that slavery was British culture ?

You can see who I was quoting in my post. 

[CorpusChristie]

9 minutes ago, nausea said:

If I was thinking of an embarrassing photo for a far right protester, that would be it. It's almost porno in its implications; that guy will never hold his head up high at a BNP meeting, that's for sure. 

How are you able to tell what his political Beliefs are ?

[Baerboxer]

13 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

 

Regarding the violence at the BLM demo:

 

"The mayor, who is in charge of the Metropolitan Police, put out a statement yesterday condemning the violence and said “this vital cause was badly let down by a tiny minority who turned violent and threw glass bottles and lit flares, endangering other protestors and injuring police officers”.

 

Whether that is sufficiently blunt is debatable, but it is not correct to say that he was silent about the events of the day.

 

But you are right - the vast majority of people tend towards the centre. The fact is that they showed up at the BLM march and they stayed away yesterday. 

 

Interesting quote - thanks for posting. Source?

 

I think it's a great example of political twisting; trying to turn a negative message into positive. The careful choice of "vital cause" and "tiny minority". 

 

The vast majority of people condemn racism, and police brutality. Just as they condemn bigotry, criminal activity and thuggery. Extreme political parties, of all ideologies, have traditionally fared badly in the UK. 

 

Form what I see on social media, many people who would normally fit in that vast majority classification are becoming more motivated in their desire for law and order and less willing to be tolerant of the fringe extremists. This could have some serious consequences. Waking a sleeping giant does not always get the result you want or think.

Edited June 14, 2020 by Baerboxer

[CorpusChristie]

22 minutes ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

 

 

Yes, when people come out to clash with anti-racism protesters, and justify their actions by declaring slavery “British culture” they want to  “protect”, I believe far-right is a pretty accurate description of such people. 
 

Maybe they could volunteer to clean parks or teach students about the dark chapters of British history if they cared so deeply about contributing to society? 
 

 

Neither of the people whom you quoted said the words which you put into quotation marks .

Did anyone "declare that slavery was British culture" , or did you just make that up ?

 

 

[Kadilo]

London protests: More than 100 arrests after violent clashes with police https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53037767
 

Turned up <deleted>, pissing on memorials, attacking journalists and policeman

 

Strong words from Johnson and Patel. 

Edited June 14, 2020 by Kadilo

[welovesundaysatspace]

2 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

Neither of the people whom you quoted said the words which you put into quotation marks .

Did anyone "declare that slavery was British culture" , or did you just make that up ?

 

 

They did, and you can see it in the posts that I quoted. 

[TopDeadSenter]

8 minutes ago, Krataiboy said:

Anyone who believes these protests are spontaneous and not meant to serve a wider agenda is living in cloud cuckoo land.

We all know that had Hillary/Corbyn won their respective elections none of this mayhem would be happening now. That is because it has nothing whatsoever to do with "racism" and is a violent revolt by leftists to seize power. Power that they have no chance at ever winning in a democratic process. Personally I blame the education system for telling students that only extreme lefty views are correct - with no evidence, and that anyone disagreeing is an (insert one of the overused and meaningless insults), which led to the naive intolerance and hatred of Britain's own history and culture.

[vogie]

17 minutes ago, Kadilo said:

Ahhh so they are not frenzied, rabid mods this week..........,it’s the BBC’s propaganda. Gotcha. 
 

 

There would have been no need for anybody to defend our freedoms from the howling rabid mob if the police had done their job last week, it is not up to the public to maintain law and order, and it is not up to the police to ignore wanton destruction and violence like they did last week, they don't decide which crimes to police and which to ignore, same as the MSM, they should not be telling us what they want to know, they should be telling us what really happened.

[CorpusChristie]

2 minutes ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

They did, and you can see it in the posts that I quoted. 

You took three words from two different posters, removed all the context , stuck the three words together and came to the wrong conclusion of what the original posters were saying .

[RuamRudy]

13 minutes ago, sungod said:

Please stop posting fake news then and causing unnecessary division.

I didn't realise that my sarcasm was so subtle. 

 

Please do not tell me what I must or must not post, nor decry my posts as fake news. If you are so blinkered as to ignore what is in front of you them by all means carry; I couldn't care less. 

[Baerboxer]

2 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

Glad you finally admit there was not an attack on London.

 

The reasons for yesterdays thuggery by the far right have their roots in a much more prejudice laden philosophy

 

Big difference. The "far right thugs" were a combination of genuine protesters, those not agreeing with vandalizing statues and public property, football hooligans looking for a fight, and hard core racists. Most would have no more idea about politics, political ideologies and agendas than Mickey Mouse.

 

The "far left thugs" from last week and yesterday were neo-Marxist, anarchists, socialist workers and similar groups very in tune with specific political ideologies and agendas looking to cause trouble, chaos and stir up insurrection. Dismantling law and order is a key tool. Extreme left political groups that have seized power have shown racism and bigotry and are far from tolerant, democratic, and do not allow protest or freedom of speech. 

 

So it's football hooligans and racist thugs against organized political extremists looking to further their brand of political oppression on society. 

[sungod]

3 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

I didn't realise that my sarcasm was so subtle. 

 

Please do not tell me what I must or must not post, nor decry my posts as fake news. If you are so blinkered as to ignore what is in front of you them by all means carry; I couldn't care less. 

So, show me the guy doing the nazi salute or retract your post. Simple

[evadgib]

39 minutes ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

 

 

Yes, when people come out to clash with anti-racism protesters, and justify their actions by declaring slavery “British culture” they want to  “protect”, I believe far-right is a pretty accurate description of such people. 
 

Maybe they could volunteer to clean parks or teach students about the dark chapters of British history if they cared so deeply about contributing to society? 
 

 

Guess who was first to reach for the bin bags @Westminster yesterday?

 

(...on film too!) 

 

[Kadilo]

13 minutes ago, vogie said:

There would have been no need for anybody to defend our freedoms from the howling rabid mob if the police had done their job last week, it is not up to the public to maintain law and order, and it is not up to the police to ignore wanton destruction and violence like they did last week, they don't decide which crimes to police and which to ignore, same as the MSM, they should not be telling us what they want to know, they should be telling us what really happened.

Glad we can agree that any violence against the Police such as what yesterday was by a howling, rabid mob and was disgraceful. 

Edited June 14, 2020 by Kadilo

[Baerboxer]

16 minutes ago, Kadilo said:

London protests: More than 100 arrests after violent clashes with police https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53037767
 

Turned up <deleted>, pissing on memorials, attacking journalists and policeman

 

Strong words from Johnson and Patel. 

 

Interesting report.

 

See Starmer comments this week. Selective as always.

 

Also not the man giving the clenched fist salute. As he's white, is that an extreme left salute or black power?

 

 

[Baerboxer]

3 minutes ago, Kadilo said:

Glad we can agree that any violence against the Police such as what yesterday was by a howling, rabid mob. 

 

You could also add that the mob last week and this week that attacked the police were made up of people who couldn't really care less about fighting racism or protecting statues. 

[vogie]

1 minute ago, Kadilo said:

Glad we can agree that any violence against the Police such as what yesterday was by a howling, rabid mob. 

I didn't say that, you need to read my post again, the troubles would not have  happened and I quote "from the howling rabid mob if the police had done their job last week" emphasis on the 'last week' which takes away your reply of 'yesterday.'

[evadgib]

18 minutes ago, vogie said:

There would have been no need for anybody to defend our freedoms from the howling rabid mob if the police had done their job last week, it is not up to the public to maintain law and order, and it is not up to the police to ignore wanton destruction and violence like they did last week, they don't decide which crimes to police and which to ignore, same as the MSM, they should not be telling us what they want to know, they should be telling us what really happened.

After last week's capitulation and subservience to the baying mob it would not have surprised me yesterday to have seen citizen Khan marching at the head of Parliaments Army swinging a drum-major's mace while calling out the time.

[simple1]

5 hours ago, INFIDELandPROUD said:

So let me get this straight, if you protect any statue from damage (most of these people being military veterans) you're automatically classed as ’Far-Right’ absolutely ridiculous journalism trying to dupe people into more hatred.

'cause more than a few vets have joined far right groups. Journalists on the ground are quite capable of identifying members of the far right by their behaviour and language.

[Kadilo]

7 minutes ago, vogie said:

I didn't say that, you need to read my post again, the troubles would not have  happened and I quote "from the howling rabid mob if the police had done their job last week" emphasis on the 'last week' which takes away your reply of 'yesterday.'

I know you didn’t. I was giving you the opportunity to not display yourself as a total hypocrite. 

Predictably you failed. 

[vogie]

1 minute ago, Kadilo said:

I know you didn’t. I was giving you the opportunity to not display yourself as a total hypocrite. 

Predictably you failed. 

I wouldn't go down the road of personal attacks, it never ends well on TVisa.

[nausea]

14 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

So it's football hooligans and racist thugs against organized political extremists looking to further their brand of political oppression on society. 

That pretty much sums it up. One feeds on the other. And it ends up in fascism or communism, we're past that I hope. It doesn't work, the uncomfortable realism of the modern world is that we're in some kind of unstable state. Personallly, I reject the right cos it's a nonsense, and I reject the left cos it's hopelessly optimistic about the true nature of human beings. 

[Loiner]

7 minutes ago, simple1 said:

'cause more than a few vets have joined far right groups. Journalists on the ground are quite capable of identifying members of the far right by their behaviour and language.

How do these journalists differentiate between Centre; A bit right of Centre; Right; Very Right and Far Right? They are all displaying the same behaviour and language. 
I can understand the journos identifying leftists of all kinds though, because "it takes one to know one", as they say. 

[TopDeadSenter]

13 minutes ago, nausea said:

That pretty much sums it up. One feeds on the other. And it ends up in fascism or communism, we're past that I hope. It doesn't work, the uncomfortable realism of the modern world is that we're in some kind of unstable state. Personallly, I reject the right cos it's a nonsense, and I reject the left cos it's hopelessly optimistic about the true nature of human beings. 

Interesting to see how life played out in the Central Hill Autonomous Zone (aka Soy-malia) over in Seattle. It gives a major hint of what is in store for us. There the left won the battle after their weak mayors and police surrendered and have set up a seperate country in the heart of Seattle. Can't be far from Khan advocating such a move for London. Anyway within a week the Soymalians have heavily armed and unelected warlords in charge, racial segregation happening - I see a sign that says Black or native Americans only in one area, extortion of businesses, and a long list of free stuff they need from the evil capitalists outside their zone to survive. It is not looking better, safer and more inclusive than our democratic capitalism.

 

Edited June 14, 2020 by TopDeadSenter