India says three soldiers killed in 'violent faceoff' on border with China

[Traubert]

1 hour ago, LomSak27 said:

Rubbish

 

The agreement, no weapons at the border.
 

The Chinese fashion clubs with nails, and like weapons, beforehand. Then they set up a tent on what they know is the Indian side of the border. The Indians come out to take it down and they are swarmed by Chinese. Twenty, twenty four (?) are beaten to death and bashed with rocks and other hand weapons. Many of these could have been saved, but Indians were prevented from rescuing their wounded. They froze to death in a ravine. The Only alternative, is escalate, open up the howitzers, rockets, twin 50’s and let her rip. The Chinese figured that would not happen. NOW All this was deliberate, premeditated on the Chinese part.

So that is how China does business when they think they can get away with it

Note to our troops, be friendly, be nice, smile, never let your weapons out of your grasp. Never EVER allow yourself to be at a power disadvantage or maneuvered into one.  

 

"If you want to  see  the true measure of a nation, watch how they treat those they feel are under their power.  their inferiors, not their equals"

Rubbish. Another fairy story.

[LomSak27]

Just now, Traubert said:

Rubbish. Another fairy story.

BBC & DW as of yesterday. Maybe good time to migrate over to a fake news kerfuffle post.  

 

[Dumbastheycome]

On 6/17/2020 at 10:00 AM, Baerboxer said:

 

The World's biggest democracy v the World's biggest one party dictatorship which completely controls all domestic media.

 

Now, which one should be believe!

I would  go with  Tonga  every time !

[Eric Loh]

30 minutes ago, LomSak27 said:

BBC & DW as of yesterday. Maybe good time to migrate over to a fake news kerfuffle post.  

 

This is the BBC’s report and was amicable in their reporting with headline indication that said ‘both sides tell their story’. Where you get yours? 
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-53061476

[Bkk Brian]

From AFP

 

Chinese troops attacked with rods and nail-studded clubs. Many of these killed appear to have been punched or shoved off a ridge onto rocks and into an icy river below.

 

https://www.afp.com/en/news/15/india-china-hold-talks-de-escalate-deadly-border-tensions-doc-1tl0ga5

[ExpatOilWorker]

3 hours ago, Walker88 said:

Now reports coming out say at least 50 were killed.

 

The blame rest solely with China.

Link?

Any info on Chinese casualties?

[Bkk Brian]

some of the weapons used in the skirmish by the PLA. rods and nail-studded clubs

[Traubert]

4 hours ago, LomSak27 said:

BBC & DW as of yesterday. Maybe good time to migrate over to a fake news kerfuffle post.  

 

And the reporters on the spot were???

[ExpatOilWorker]

 

45 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

some of the weapons used in the skirmish by the PLA. rods and nail-studded clubs

If they left their weapons behind, there might be some truth to the 30-43 Chinese casualties. 

 

[metisdead]

Some troll posts and the replies have been removed. 

[Orton Rd]

23 hours ago, CorpusChristie said:

Taiwan and Hong Kong were originally a part of China and China wants them back ; China and India just disagree where the border is .

  China doesnt want all of India , just the disputed areas

No Taiwan was never actually part of China until 1945 when the nationaists ruled the whole country and where they retreated to. China lies about Tibet being part of China, Taiwan, Mongolia, parts Of Nepal and India and of course the whole of Mt Everest, time they were called out on their outrageous territorial claims and agressive actions, well done the Indians.

[Eric Loh]

52 minutes ago, Orton Rd said:

No Taiwan was never actually part of China until 1945 when the nationaists ruled the whole country and where they retreated to. China lies about Tibet being part of China, Taiwan, Mongolia, parts Of Nepal and India and of course the whole of Mt Everest, time they were called out on their outrageous territorial claims and agressive actions, well done the Indians.

Seem a large portion of Taiwan’s history is missing. History goes back to the 19th century when the Qing dynasty ruled Formosa and had a General Governor in control. Formosa ceded to Japan in 1897 after a series of battles in the mainland. China organized a militia to resist the Japanese from occupying the island but was futile. It was until 1945 that the allies agreed to allow China to take control of Taiwan from the defeated Japanese. The nationalist army lost the civil war and found refuge in Taiwan in 1949. The Taiwan constitution recognized the one China status. Hope the information useful. 

[GinBoy2]

56 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Seem a large portion of Taiwan’s history is missing. History goes back to the 19th century when the Qing dynasty ruled Formosa and had a General Governor in control. Formosa ceded to Japan in 1897 after a series of battles in the mainland. China organized a militia to resist the Japanese from occupying the island but was futile. It was until 1945 that the allies agreed to allow China to take control of Taiwan from the defeated Japanese. The nationalist army lost the civil war and found refuge in Taiwan in 1949. The Taiwan constitution recognized the one China status. Hope the information useful. 

Which is part of the issue.

 

A large percentage of the Taiwan population now understands that they will never take control of the mainland.

They have seen what one country, two systems has devolved into, and subsequently are rapidly abandoning that idea of a single China status, even if it's in the constitution, but they also understand revoking that would be the equivalent to kryptonite to Beijing.

 

A lot of folks get hung up on Taiwan license plates saying 臺灣省, which translates to 'Province of Taiwan. It's an argument that is often used in simplistic term to say Taiwan is part of China. 

Of course it really only refers to the fact that Taiwan is part of the ROC, not PRC, but in reality of course the ROC doesn't exist so it's more of a nostalgic term

Edited June 18, 2020 by GinBoy2

[steven100]

5 hours ago, ExpatOilWorker said:

 

If they left their weapons behind, there might be some truth to the 30-43 Chinese casualties. 

 

one can only hope .... i have zero pity for chinese at this time.

[ExpatOilWorker]

5 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

Seem a large portion of Taiwan’s history is missing. History goes back to the 19th century when the Qing dynasty ruled Formosa and had a General Governor in control. Formosa ceded to Japan in 1897 after a series of battles in the mainland. China organized a militia to resist the Japanese from occupying the island but was futile. It was until 1945 that the allies agreed to allow China to take control of Taiwan from the defeated Japanese. The nationalist army lost the civil war and found refuge in Taiwan in 1949. The Taiwan constitution recognized the one China status. Hope the information useful. 

Maybe it is about time Mongolia pull out a pen and draw a 500 dash line on a map and teach China a history lesson.

[bartender100]

Bend the knee India, you know its very fashionable, all will be forgiven

[LomSak27]

Some more info

https://www.businessinsider.in/politics/world/news/hundreds-of-chinese-troops-reportedly-hunted-down-dozens-of-indian-soldiers-and-beat-them-with-batons-wrapped-in-barbed-wire/articleshow/76432966.cms

[Bkk Brian]

China's been busy this year, so far.................

 

1) Unleash a worldwide pandemic killing nearly half a million people so far.

2) Major cyber attacks in Australia together with sanctions on Australian imports.

3) New security laws for Hong Kong

4) Killing 20 Indians in territorial dispute

5) Sending ships into Japanese territorial waters

6) Intrusions into Taiwanese airspace

7) Ramming Vietnamese fishing boats