welovesundaysatspace Posted June 26, 2020 Posted June 26, 2020 38 minutes ago, BritManToo said: When a government acts against the wishes of the people, it's time for an election and a new government. Nobody cares about COVID, apart from a few nutters, let the people decide on the risks they want to take. If they want to visit the beach, why not, if you want to cower in fear in your home, you are equally welcome. What one decides, does not affect anyone else. The people want anarchy! Where’s Anonymous when we need them? 1 1
Popular Post CorpusChristie Posted June 26, 2020 Popular Post Posted June 26, 2020 5 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: How many die from car accidents, but they don't ban cars. How many drown in the sea, but they don't ban swimming etc etc etc. More to the point how many will die from common flu? Life is fleeting and not fair. Given a vaccine is not even guaranteed and will take a long while before all 8 billion on earth are given it, seems reality has to be accepted eventually. The longer before that happens will see even more lives lost to poverty caused by lockdowns- young lives, not those that have lived long and prosperous lives. Thailand seems to have ridded itself of the Corvid virus , 33 days without any new infections . The whole World would be Corvid virus free now if every other Country acted the same as Thailand . 3
CorpusChristie Posted June 26, 2020 Posted June 26, 2020 4 hours ago, 473geo said: England gets on with opening up as the danger and death rates subside - media needs stories and predictions of doom Life is good People congregating like this could cause a spike in the infection rates , which will mean the UK locking down again and for longer
Popular Post welovesundaysatspace Posted June 26, 2020 Popular Post Posted June 26, 2020 55 minutes ago, sevenhills said: Thais don't have a choice under a defacto millitary Government, or had you not noticed that? I don’t know how much choice they have. It’s irrelevant though. I’m glad most Thai people aren’t the conspiracy theorists, science deniers and populists we see in the West. They care about their health and that of their families and friends. They don’t think science and doctors are hocus-pocus that you know better by watching a YouTube channel. Quite amazing that a developing country now produces more rational people than the well-educated West. But like I said, let the fools go to their Trump rallies and anti-Covid parties. As long as they don’t mingle with us, I’m happy to see Darwin do his job. It may be just what the West needs against populism and the growing number of imbeciles. 3 1
Popular Post CorpusChristie Posted June 26, 2020 Popular Post Posted June 26, 2020 6 hours ago, Rookiescot said: Was always going to happen. People looked at Dominic Cummings getting away with it and decided its OK for them to do the same. Its nothing to do with Dominic Cummings . The UK population saw all the BLM protestors congregating on the streets and they all thought to their selves, if they can congregate in parks, I can go to the beach and congregate 3 1
welovesundaysatspace Posted June 26, 2020 Posted June 26, 2020 3 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said: Its nothing to do with Dominic Cummings . The UK population saw all the BLM protestors congregating on the streets and they all thought to their selves, if they can congregate in parks, I can go to the beach and congregate If they can shoot themselves in the foot, I can do it too.
473geo Posted June 26, 2020 Posted June 26, 2020 54 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said: People congregating like this could cause a spike in the infection rates , which will mean the UK locking down again and for longer Yeah yeah.....could, might, maybe, possibly, perhaps all words bandied about in the tabloids and taken as fact by the gullible........I just don't recognise a spike deaths from the mystical 'second wave' we keep hearing about. Remember if none of those guys on the beach are over sixty they carry little or no chance of serious damage from covid.
from the home of CC Posted June 26, 2020 Posted June 26, 2020 great news for the casket makers... 1 1
CorpusChristie Posted June 26, 2020 Posted June 26, 2020 11 minutes ago, 473geo said: Yeah yeah.....could, might, maybe, possibly, perhaps all words bandied about in the tabloids and taken as fact by the gullible........I just don't recognise a spike deaths from the mystical 'second wave' we keep hearing about. Remember if none of those guys on the beach are over sixty they carry little or no chance of serious damage from covid. I do think its safe to say that the Corona virus is spread from person to person and people congregating will help spread the virus . The virus does mainly effect old and ill people , yeah , younger fit people should go right on as normal and catching and spreading the virus and dont worry about all the older and ill people all dying , after all, they are all OK and wont be effected , unless the virus mutates and gets stronger and younger people start to become more effected 1
Popular Post sawadee1947 Posted June 26, 2020 Popular Post Posted June 26, 2020 When UK people see how strict their famous leaders, known for idiotic behaviour, follow corona rules then it's not surprising to see people gathering at the beach. The fish stinks from the head ???? 3
johng Posted June 26, 2020 Posted June 26, 2020 1 hour ago, welovesundaysatspace said: They care about their health and that of their families and friends. They wear a face mask whilst driving a motorcycle at top speed with no crash helmet,gloves and wearing flip flops..ohh and don't forget the very powerful amulet that will ward off danger (not WuFlu though that requires a mask) 1
Mavideol Posted June 26, 2020 Posted June 26, 2020 with a leader who provides such clean cut instructions and some members of the government not respecting their own rules, .... no roadmap and/or supervision, selfish people brainless activities it's the perfect recipe for disaster Boris Johnson on Tuesday confirmed that pubs and other leisure businesses can re-open from 4 July, as the UK prime minister relaxed social distancing rules from two metres to one metre. https://uk.news.yahoo.com/boris-johnson-1m-social-distancing-114206188.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cueWFob28uY29tL25ld3MvY29yb25hdmlydXMtY292aWQtMTktcHVicy1yZS1vcGVuaW5nLTQtanVseS1ib3Jpcy1qb2huc29uLTExNDUwNTYyOS5odG1s&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAABPDOpw14C2637hu6zrGPKDItNPhncBikfpZTRA7elVA4XaFw0gvQt61SfkmFH2Ld3D16My5ei629xxe9CqjQMls3lhKc7LYidXGaWPLRCWumYI_wfzC4PGMbTH-cYK8ZAYRFmTWqoaSHumCT1NGH2IhPhPi7bvqCU_lCA9s-ytM "" Johnson said: “Where it is possible to keep two metres apart, people should. But where it is not, we will advise people to keep a social distance of one metre plus, meaning they should remain one metre apart while taking mitigations to reduce the risk of transmission.”
Popular Post Krataiboy Posted June 26, 2020 Popular Post Posted June 26, 2020 6 hours ago, PremiumLane said: That is the point, we need vaccines, and until then there needs to be measure to stop the spread - hear immunity is not a strategy. The economic impact, well that just shows how neo-liberal capitalism can't cope with crisis, I don't see what that has to do with herd immunity? Or are you saying sacrifice old people so young people won't go broke, I think there is a better way than that. Be careful what you wish for. There's never been a vaccine for a coronavirus. Even the shots for seasonal flu are of limited efficacy. Vaccines rushed to market in the past have turned out dodgy and damaging. Besides, some of the boffins working on the latest shots them are whingeing about not having enough COVID cases left to experiment on. Now that's what I call good news. The world, by the way, was in a deep financial crisis before the plandemic gave those responsible a scapegoat to dream up a "reset" to the global economy. Have a look at this: https://www.weforum.org/great-reset 3
Popular Post bannork Posted June 26, 2020 Popular Post Posted June 26, 2020 12 minutes ago, sawadee1947 said: When UK people see how strict their famous leaders, known for idiotic behaviour, follow corona rules then it's not surprising to see people gathering at the beach. The fish stinks from the head ???? It's plain all the men went on a test drive to Bournemouth to check their eyesight by ogling the shapely UK birds on the beach once they got there. 4
Krataiboy Posted June 26, 2020 Posted June 26, 2020 6 minutes ago, Mavideol said: with a leader who provides such clean cut instructions and some members of the government not respecting their own rules, .... no roadmap and/or supervision, selfish people brainless activities it's the perfect recipe for disaster Boris Johnson on Tuesday confirmed that pubs and other leisure businesses can re-open from 4 July, as the UK prime minister relaxed social distancing rules from two metres to one metre. https://uk.news.yahoo.com/boris-johnson-1m-social-distancing-114206188.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cueWFob28uY29tL25ld3MvY29yb25hdmlydXMtY292aWQtMTktcHVicy1yZS1vcGVuaW5nLTQtanVseS1ib3Jpcy1qb2huc29uLTExNDUwNTYyOS5odG1s&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAABPDOpw14C2637hu6zrGPKDItNPhncBikfpZTRA7elVA4XaFw0gvQt61SfkmFH2Ld3D16My5ei629xxe9CqjQMls3lhKc7LYidXGaWPLRCWumYI_wfzC4PGMbTH-cYK8ZAYRFmTWqoaSHumCT1NGH2IhPhPi7bvqCU_lCA9s-ytM "" Johnson said: “Where it is possible to keep two metres apart, people should. But where it is not, we will advise people to keep a social distance of one metre plus, meaning they should remain one metre apart while taking mitigations to reduce the risk of transmission.” We need to replace this inept and inaccurate ruler with sixty million tape measures. 1
473geo Posted June 26, 2020 Posted June 26, 2020 Good grief you guys are panic stricken and falling hook line and sinker for scraps of doom prediction thrown your way Just have a walk around your local supermarket, enclosed, people in the same proximity as the beach it has been like this for over a fortnight now, don't even see the basket handles cleaned, so where are the 'spikes'? 2
473geo Posted June 26, 2020 Posted June 26, 2020 35 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said: I do think its safe to say that the Corona virus is spread from person to person and people congregating will help spread the virus . The virus does mainly effect old and ill people , yeah , younger fit people should go right on as normal and catching and spreading the virus and dont worry about all the older and ill people all dying , after all, they are all OK and wont be effected , unless the virus mutates and gets stronger and younger people start to become more effected 'Unless the virus mutates and gets stronger' where is there any evidence of this?
CorpusChristie Posted June 26, 2020 Posted June 26, 2020 4 minutes ago, 473geo said: Good grief you guys are panic stricken and falling hook line and sinker for scraps of doom prediction thrown your way Just have a walk around your local supermarket, enclosed, people in the same proximity as the beach it has been like this for over a fortnight now, don't even see the basket handles cleaned, so where are the 'spikes'? I will listen to the advice of virus control experts , those who have studied the control of viruses , rather than posters on TVF
Popular Post BritManToo Posted June 26, 2020 Popular Post Posted June 26, 2020 Just now, 473geo said: 'Unless the virus mutates and gets stronger' where is there any evidence of this? Normally virus mutate and get weaker. A virus that kills it's carrier is ineffective, that's evolution in action. 4
CorpusChristie Posted June 26, 2020 Posted June 26, 2020 1 minute ago, 473geo said: 'Unless the virus mutates and gets stronger' where is there any evidence of this? You want me to provide evidence to something that I said might happen in the future ? Think about it . 1
johnpetersen Posted June 26, 2020 Posted June 26, 2020 9 minutes ago, Krataiboy said: There are some pretty smart people out there who believe the reason nobody has come up with a vaccine HIV/AIDS is because the virus doesn't exist. As far as I know, the current coronavirus has not actually been put through the rigorous testing regime which traditionally applies. Never mind. Whether it's real or not, just "follow the science". It should be amended to "pretty smart but insane people". 1
473geo Posted June 26, 2020 Posted June 26, 2020 1 minute ago, CorpusChristie said: You want me to provide evidence to something that I said might happen in the future ? Think about it . Well you run scared and let the rest of us get on with life, because you are way off beam with your 'predictions' and I doubt you are listening to any other advice than your own imaginary scenarios. 2
Popular Post Baerboxer Posted June 26, 2020 Popular Post Posted June 26, 2020 9 hours ago, Maverell said: It is quite simple really. It is a matter of principle. The decent British people will not sit back and accept one rule for them and another rule for protesters and minority groups who can do anything they want. Very simple. Sorry to say that your spot on with that. Allowing neo Marxists, anarchists, fascists and the feeble minded easily led protesters to mass and ignore the rules was dumb. Especially as this was a stirred up agenda with lots of jumping on bandwagons. Simple indeed. But made complicated by the media and conniving politicians for their own gain. 3
johnpetersen Posted June 26, 2020 Posted June 26, 2020 4 minutes ago, BritManToo said: Normally virus mutate and get weaker. A virus that kills it's carrier is ineffective, that's evolution in action. First of all, this virus doesn't kill most people. Secondly, even if it did, if on average if it infected more than 1 person before its host died, it would still spread. It's true that over time viruses tend to become less virulent. But the less lethal it is, the longer that would take. And it's tendency over time to become less lethal is by no means unidirectional. 1
Popular Post bert bloggs Posted June 26, 2020 Popular Post Posted June 26, 2020 Well at least i see lots of people enjoying themselves and not causing trouble ,and its plastered all over the papers ,not as much about our Black brothers having another Brixton riot and attacking the police(where they on their knee while they were being attacked?] Reminds me of the Brixton riots when i was a young lad living in London ,nothing changes ,like fathers like sons. 4
richard_smith237 Posted June 26, 2020 Posted June 26, 2020 8 minutes ago, johnpetersen said: Can you come up with a way for nations to exclude the Britons who behave foolishly during the pandemic from those who don't? It doesn't seem like it's just a few who are jeopardizing their own health and that of others. ["It doesn't seem like it's just a few”] that depends if you see the actions of a minority as the actions of a nation. The overcrowding at at time of social distancing is one despicable facet of these self-centred people, the state of the beaches after they left is atrocious. It’s highly embarrassing (as Brit), but this chavy behaviour is not representative of a nation. Unfortunately, it is representative of a proportion of society, soft laws have enabled this. Pretty much everyone I know would turn around and go home if they ever saw a beach this busy under normal circumstances. Who wants to be in a crowd of that many people at a beach?
richard_smith237 Posted June 26, 2020 Posted June 26, 2020 4 minutes ago, 473geo said: Fully agree ban all Brits until UK is covid free - no problem No problem because you have not been absent from your family. The quarantine and testing prevent the risk of further spread - so, why would you want to ban specifically Brits? Would you also want to ban Thai’s entering Thailand from the UK or is it ‘just every single person of British Nationality’ you would ban? 1
CorpusChristie Posted June 26, 2020 Posted June 26, 2020 5 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said: ["It doesn't seem like it's just a few”] that depends if you see the actions of a minority as the actions of a nation. The overcrowding at at time of social distancing is one despicable facet of these self-centred people, the state of the beaches after they left is atrocious. It’s highly embarrassing (as Brit), but this chavy behaviour is not representative of a nation. Unfortunately, it is representative of a proportion of society, soft laws have enabled this. Pretty much everyone I know would turn around and go home if they ever saw a beach this busy under normal circumstances. Who wants to be in a crowd of that many people at a beach? Its not just the beaches though is it ? The numerous demonstrations and counter demonstrations in various UK towns and cities . Numerous illegal raves , football fans congregating , it does seem quite widespread 1
IAMHERE Posted June 26, 2020 Posted June 26, 2020 Sweden will be much better in the 2nd and 3rd wave than countries destroying their economies to flatten the first wave. Sweden will have fewer deaths from the coming vaccine too. Sweden knew they'd get hit hard but also figured they'd most all survive and be that much ahead while the rest of Europe is still dealing with the Covid-19. Those on the beach may all have already had Covid-19 or decided they'd rather catch it and get over it now than later. The media is lying about how deadly the virus is and not telling the truth about who is dying from Covid-19. Most on those beaches have no reason to fear their own death from Covid-19. 1
473geo Posted June 26, 2020 Posted June 26, 2020 Just now, CorpusChristie said: We are pretty much back to normal here in Thailand , just a few precautionary measures still being taken , Thailand has handled it very well, just 53 deaths and 3000 infections . Compared to the UK's 300 000 infections and 50 000 deaths and the virus hasnt been controlled yet and theres a distinct possibility that there could be a second wave . We may have been "running scared" of the virus here in Thailand............but we conquered it . Touch & go as to whether there will be a spike in contractions in the UK and then you will all then have to get locked down again Let me explain, you are making comments based on a photograph of people on the beach, actually the British public have been rather relaxed about masks, congregating and social distancing, something you will know little about. this leads me to believe the virus has effectively run it's course and is no longer the danger it originally was. Hence my reaction to all the political rubbish and the what if statements on this thread. Thailand has every right to keep out people from areas where there is still infection. Why don't we just wait and see the exact impact of the day at the beach eh!!
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