Trump posts video of couple brandishing guns towards protesters

[ChouDoufu]

34 minutes ago, spiekerjozef said:

A civilian with an automatic rifle....

Are these people braindead? Also the ones accepting these kinda laws.

 

actually, that's a civilian with a scary-looking semi-automatic assualt-style rifle.

 

not an automatic weapon.

not an assault rifle.

not military grade.

[welovesundaysatspace]

2 hours ago, DoctorG said:

Well, Sleepy would need a 4 hour nanna nap each day.

I guess that would still give him plenty more hours that he’s not hiding in his bunker and raging on Twitter like a teenager. 

[riclag]

49 minutes ago, luckyluke said:

Self - defense  if the couple had shot at the crowd, thinking they were threatened by the protesters?

 

Self - defense if one or more protesters carrying a legal gun and licence, had shot at the 2 residents, thinking they were threatened by them,  as they were  pointing firearms ?

You forgot something ! The blm people enter private property! Thats illegal!

More than likely if those residents were shot and killed ,those thugs all would be accessory to murder!

 

And if the other way around the husband and wife would have every right to use deadly force according to Missouri law 

[DoctorG]

40 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

The right to carry arms was written at a time when people used muskets.

Do you honestly think it would have been written if they had known rifles would become what they are now?

One could take your argument and say there should not be freedom of the press, because hardly anyone uses a printing press nowadays.

Furthermore, in those earlier times it was legal to own a canon. 

[DoctorG]

26 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

That is not accurate as regards to assault weapons. Majority of people are against law allowing ownership of assault weapons in the 2018 poll. It is the GOP lawmakers that were resisting the ban. 

You do know that "assault weapon" is not a real term? Right? Technically a butter knife is an assault weapon if you use it to stab somebody.

[Eric Loh]

16 minutes ago, ChouDoufu said:

 

actually, that's a civilian with a scary-looking semi-automatic assualt-style rifle.

 

not an automatic weapon.

not an assault rifle.

not military grade.

You got some right that it is a semi-auto assault rifle. I am quite certain that it is a M-16. I was trained in the M-16 precursor AR-15 to recognize the features. It was a US military standard service rifle and also used by other armed forces around the world. While the US military has largely replaced the M16 in frontline combat, the rifle is still standard army issue assault rifle aka military grade.  

[Matzzon]

4 hours ago, Mama Noodle said:

 

Except Im talking about defending my home and my wife defending hers. 

 

Ive had guns since I was a kid, and the US government tought me how to use them, so I wouldn't worry too much about me or the wife killing people. 

What are you talking about here? The military thought you how to use weapons or war, right? That´s far from using them for defense to have the knowledge to kill somebody with them. As I understand your wife had a gun too. Thai government have probably not thought her how to use it. You probably did that. Meaning that you have the knowledge how to kill people with a weapon or war, which means that she has the same knowledge now. 

In reality you should worry a lot about that.

However, all of how you use a gun is irrelevant. This thread was about a madman and his wife, trying to tell people that they were protecting their homes and lifes. How can that be possible when there is no information about any threats or that anybody were trespassing. Nobody tried to break into their homes or kill them. 

If they just let them walk by with their protest all had been good. Oh sorry, I forgot! You had been thought to shoot first and ask later.

[ChouDoufu]

1 hour ago, luckyluke said:

Self - defense  if the couple had shot at the crowd, thinking they were threatened by the protesters?

 

Self - defense if one or more protesters carrying a legal gun and licence, had shot at the 2 residents, thinking they were threatened by them,  as they were  pointing firearms ?

 

breaking into private property, vandalizing property, shouting threats, carrying AND brandishing firearms, legal or not.  i think the homeowners are covered under the law.  missouri, like many states, allows open carry...but NOT on someone else's property without their permission.

 

the criminals in the mob, though, i'm not so sure about, although i'm sure the media would play it as rayciss white folks oppressing a collection of gentle giants minding their own business.

[oobar]

6 hours ago, Puchaiyank said:

Honestly,  he needs a full time censor and public relations advisor...

He needs confining in an institution for the mentally ill.

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[riclag]

33 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

That is not accurate as regards to assault weapons. Majority of people are against law allowing ownership of assault weapons in the 2018 poll. It is the GOP lawmakers that were resisting the ban. 

https://www.nraila.org/gun-laws/state-gun-laws/missouri/

 

Missouri is very favorable to semi automatic rifles  .Same goes for the right to protect your self with deadly force

 

[ChouDoufu]

4 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

You got some right that it is a semi-auto assault rifle. I am quite certain that it is a M-16. I was trained in the M-16 precursor AR-15 to recognize the features. It was a US military standard service rifle and also used by other armed forces around the world. While the US military has largely replaced the M16 in frontline combat, the rifle is still standard army issue assault rifle aka military grade.  

that is incorrect.  the m-16 is the military grade automatic assault rifle.

 

the ar-15 is the civilian semi-automatic copy.  all the scary cosmetic features without the military functions.  it looks like an m-16 to appeal to the chairborn rangers.

 

 

 

 

[tifino]

6 hours ago, Phulublub said:

And for trespass, a property owner has the right to shoot a trespasser?  Proportionate response?  I think not.

 

PH

she's a lawyer... but still just anothe dumb civvie. How's she supposed to know that what was beinf pointed twards her was not a gun, but either a telecopic mike, or a paintball gun muzzle...  

 - even a Sherrifs Deputy would 'shoot first' at a brandished plastic toy gun   

 

[ChouDoufu]

5 minutes ago, tifino said:

she's a lawyer... but still just anothe dumb civvie. How's she supposed to know that what was beinf pointed twards her was not a gun, but either a telecopic mike, or a paintball gun muzzle...  

 - even a Sherrifs Deputy would 'shoot first' at a brandished plastic toy gun   

 

 

from this angle, it appears to be the handle of a katana sword.

[Eric Loh]

7 minutes ago, ChouDoufu said:

that is incorrect.  the m-16 is the military grade automatic assault rifle.

 

the ar-15 is the civilian semi-automatic copy.  all the scary cosmetic features without the military functions.  it looks like an m-16 to appeal to the chairborn rangers.

 

 

 

 

Dude, I was in the army and the AR15 is a military issued assault weapon. AR-15 was used in the Vietnam war. AR15 can also be used as grenade launcher; a military function far from being cosmetic feature. 

[tifino]

2 minutes ago, ChouDoufu said:

 

from this angle, it appears to be the handle of a katana sword.

and a goes to show evolves into a show to go

[CraigInBangkok]

3 minutes ago, ChouDoufu said:

 

from this angle, it appears to be the handle of a katana sword.

it appears to be a microphone to me

[tifino]

Just now, CraigInBangkok said:

4 minutes ago, ChouDoufu said:

 

from this angle, it appears to be the handle of a katana sword.

it appears to be a microphone to me

but to a scared woman in the heat of the moment

- can at the time be a little short on hindsight

[ChouDoufu]

3 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Dude, I was in the army and the AR15 is a military issued assault weapon. AR-15 was used in the Vietnam war. AR15 can also be used as grenade launcher; a military function far from being cosmetic feature. 

 

dude, you won the internets today!  please google it.

[CraigInBangkok]

Just now, tifino said:

but to a scared woman in the heat of the moment

- can at the time be a little short on hindsight

I think thats why you should'nt go waving guns about willy nilly

[riclag]

4 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Dude, I was in the army and the AR15 is a military issued assault weapon. AR-15 was used in the Vietnam war. AR15 can also be used as grenade launcher; a military function far from being cosmetic feature. 

So your saying all ar 15 are assault weapons

[tifino]

1 minute ago, riclag said:

So your saying all ar 15 are assault weapons

puny 5.5mm 

 

 

gotta at least have a 7.62 

[riclag]

4 minutes ago, tifino said:

puny 5.5mm 

 

 

gotta at least have a 7.62 

Sorry no offense I asked  if all  ar 15 were assault weapons ! That poster was referring that it was a assault weapon

[riclag]

Oh well !  I expect more to come from citizens protecting themselves especially due to the last 3 weeks of mayhem in the streets

[nausea]

The rumour is this couple are Democrats and BLM supporters, and that the husband is representing some black guy in an action against the police. If that's true, oh, the irony, liberal NIMBYs, now vilified by the left and eulogised by the right. Incidentally, they need some serious gun training, they're lucky they didn't shoot each other by accident, never mind one of the "protesters".

[spidermike007]

3 hours ago, Mama Noodle said:

 

And a large portion in the USA is black on black but that doesn't stop imbeciles in here from clutching their pearls and searching for their fainting couch when talking about murder. 

 

Absolute BS and every available metric disproves that statement. Feel free to post statistics to disprove what im saying ????

Total deflection. What about the school kids getting gunned down? 

 

Of the 36,383 Americans killed with guns each year, 22,274 are gun suicides (61%), 12,830 are gun homicides (35%), 496 are law enforcement shootings (1.4%), and 487 are unintentional shootings (1.3%).

On average, 100,000 Americans are wounded with guns each year, often with life-altering consequences.

 

Roughly three-quarters of nonfatal shootings are gun assaults. About a fifth are unintentional shootings. Very few nonfatal shootings are suicide attempts—less than 5%—and between 1 and 2% are shootings by law enforcement.

 

https://lawcenter.giffords.org/facts/gun-violence-statistics/

Edited June 30, 2020 by spidermike007

[Isaan sailor]

Americans cherish their Second Amendment rights.

[mike787]

whatever...life goes on...

[Eric Loh]

41 minutes ago, riclag said:

So your saying all ar 15 are assault weapons

I admit that I omitted the word Colt which may lead to misunderstanding. The Colt AR 15 is an assault rifle. 

[Baerboxer]

7 hours ago, RJRS1301 said:

These people were not rioting, or looting or burning, it was a peaceful protest.

If worried wait inside and have your escape/defense ready, not become confrontational out front and risk stirring people up.

 

 

The protesters were trespassing on private property. They were not on public property, a gate had been damaged to gain entrance, and they were illegally remaining on private property.

 

Are there any trespass laws in the US?

 

No need to confront them and engage in insult slinging though. Should have just stood there with weapons clearly visible.

 

People have the right to protest peacefully. There is no right to trespass and cause criminal damage afaik.