Jeffrey Epstein friend Ghislaine Maxwell arrested on sex abuse charges

[twocatsmac]

5 minutes ago, Saint Nick said:

You are aware, that some of the accusations include pedophillia, aren't you?

 

I detest this man along with Hilary, Bill and most democrats and kiddie fiddlers.

The 4 part series I mentioned also alleged some pre-teens but again allegations and accusations, unfounded.

 

I’d liked to have seen him stand trial like most decent people.

[Saint Nick]

52 minutes ago, giddyup said:

Girls can marry as young as 12 with parents permission in Massachusetts and 13 in New Hampshire, so there's a bit of a double standard going on.

I bet, you are one of those people, who (rightfully so) go apepoo, when it comes to Muslim childbrides, yet you have little problems with 12 year olds getting married with parents consent! 

[giddyup]

Just now, Saint Nick said:

I bet, you are one of those people, who (rightfully so) go apepoo, when it comes to Muslim childbrides, yet you have little problems with 12 year olds getting married with parents consent! 

I'm stating the law, the facts. Take your grievances up with the lawmakers.

[Eindhoven]

7 minutes ago, giddyup said:

 Pointing out the facts, the morals/ethics of it is something else.

 

But you are not pointing out the facts, you are only trying to mislead.

Because the age of consent does not pertain to adults having sex with children. More teenagers being allowed to be with each other.

Again....most suspect.

 

[JCauto]

3 hours ago, BritManToo said:

16 is legal in Europe ........ 15 is still legal in France, until a year or so back 13 was legal in Spain.

Depends on your 'puritan' background, morality is just a function of geography.

 

America is a funny country, you dress your underage girls as sex objects (cheerleaders), then act all outraged when someone bangs them!

 

Yes, you carry on Sir! This is the hill I'd choose to die on. I'm sure you're a man of stellar background and morals with views like this.

So so glad it is exclusively the perverted Right who are the ones posting in favour of the disgusting sexual exploitation of minors. No wonder they cheerlead for the Donald.

[Eindhoven]

2 minutes ago, twocatsmac said:

I detest this man along with Hilary, Bill and most democrats and kiddie fiddlers.

The 4 part series I mentioned also alleged some pre-teens but again allegations and accusations, unfounded.

 

I’d liked to have seen him stand trial like most decent people.

 

Is Trump a Democrat? Not sure what being a Democrat has to do with anything. You need to cool down on the hate. It usually doesn't affect anyone else but yourself.

[Krataiboy]

Good news. Why it took so long to run such a well known high-society madam as Ghislaine to earth has yet to emerge. Hopefully, to save her skin, she will be persuaded to spill the beans on at least some of the powerful and wealthy pedophiles she and her former lover catered for.

 

Maxwell's publishing tycoon father Robert is believed to have been a double agent, who worked for Mossad as well as UK intelligence services, and we know Epstein had links to US intelligence. The Epstein saga is far more than than the tawdry "sex scandal" depicted by the controlled mass media.

 

For an idea of the depth of the swamp the millionaire playboy ran and the subreptary creatures he shared it with, I recommend the meticulous work of YouTube blogger Amazing Polly. Her probe into the mysterious Maxwell connection is a good place to start.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7j_JjvKK1VE

 

 

Edited July 3, 2020 by Krataiboy

[Saint Nick]

44 minutes ago, giddyup said:

They were procured by other schoolgirls who said they could earn a quick buck and went willingly, not in chains. Some of those same girls visited him regularly for years. Show me evidence that he molested 12 year olds.

There is a reason, wehy we call girls of that age "underaged" and the law is mostly pretty clear, why sex with minors can not be consentual!

It is sometimes up to grown up humans to make decissions for them, so they don't harm themselves!

Every adult man, who has sex with a minor and agues "but she wanted it", "she was in it for the money", "she said she enjoyed it"...is a scumbag!

So are those, who - in any way, shape or form- defend such behaviour! 

[lannarebirth]

According to Epstein's Virgin Islands IT guy, Epstein had a very elaborate audio and video recording system installed all over the island. If those recordings exist, and are in the hands of a third party, say a lawyer or journalist, then I like Ghislaine's chances of living out the year.

 

 

 

 

Edited July 3, 2020 by lannarebirth

[giddyup]

1 minute ago, Eindhoven said:

 

But you are not pointing out the facts, you are only trying to mislead.

Because the age of consent does not pertain to adults having sex with children. More teenagers being allowed to be with each other.

Again....most suspect.

 

But I have never said or agreed with adults having sex with a 14 or 16 year old, that's just something that you suggested. 

[Curt1591]

4 hours ago, twocatsmac said:

 

I’ll take it as a no then. You don’t have any pics of Trump on the Lolita Express.

 

And have edited your post accordingly. ???? 

These telling photos all seem posed and in public settings.

[Eindhoven]

4 minutes ago, giddyup said:

I'm stating the law, the facts. Take your grievances up with the lawmakers.

 

Which law have you stated? 

 

Let's just begin with the first two on the list;

 

Quote

Albania[edit]

Since 2001, the age of consent in Albania is 14, regardless of gender and sexual orientation. In the case of a girl, however, sex is illegal if she is over 14 but has not reached "sexual maturity", as provided by article 100 of the criminal code.^[4]

Andorra[edit]

The age of consent in Andorra is 14, as specified by Article 147 of the penal code, which reads: (1) "Whoever carries out a sexual act with a person younger than fourteen years ... shall be punished with imprisonment for between three months and three years." Paragraph 2 states that if the sexual act involves sexual penetration the punishment is three to ten years.^[5]

As specified by Articles 148 and 149, it is illegal - regardless of age - for a person occupying a position of authority or superiority over a person to engage in sexual activity with them, or when it involves the abuse of trust or situation of need or dependence. The penalty is more severe when the subject is below the age of 18.

 

There are caveats in almost every case. So to quote a law, you would also need to include all of the information.

As you know, ignorance of the law is not an excuse.

Try it. You can write us letters from jail.

Edited July 3, 2020 by Eindhoven

[Saint Nick]

30 minutes ago, giddyup said:

And at 13 (with parents permission) in some US states.

In some Us-states you can also <deleted> your sister!

What is your point!

[twocatsmac]

2 minutes ago, Eindhoven said:

 

Is Trump a Democrat? Not sure what being a Democrat has to do with anything. You need to cool down on the hate. It usually doesn't affect anyone else but yourself.

I’m sorry for not feeling the love for Epstein, his dem party cronies and the people who shielded him. 

 

[Pilotman]

2 minutes ago, Saint Nick said:

In some Us-states you can also <deleted> your sister!

What is your point!

have you seen my sister? 

 

Sorry Sis. Joke   

Edited July 3, 2020 by Pilotman

[giddyup]

Just now, Saint Nick said:

In some Us-states you can also <deleted> your sister!

What is your point!

Double standards.

[Eindhoven]

2 minutes ago, giddyup said:

But I have never said or agreed with adults having sex with a 14 or 16 year old, that's just something that you suggested. 

 

I asked you and you tried to deflect. I'm think that says it all.

[Pilotman]

3 minutes ago, Saint Nick said:

In some Us-states you can also <deleted> your sister!

What is your point!

I understood that it was mandatory in Alabama? 

[Eindhoven]

Just now, giddyup said:

Double standards.

 

Deflection. We are trying to determine YOUR moral stance. It is only you who attempts to use the Age of Consent(and failed) as your moral compass.

If you don't agree with the laws(even though you clearly do not understand them), what is your stance?

[Eindhoven]

3 minutes ago, twocatsmac said:

I’m sorry for not feeling the love for Epstein, his dem party cronies and the people who shielded him. 

 

 

But isn't Trump also involved? Just wondering why he's not on your list.

[giddyup]

Just now, Eindhoven said:

 

I asked you and you tried to deflect. I'm think that says it all.

I'll say this. Different times, different standards. What was off limits 50 years ago is now permissible, what was acceptable 200 years ago is maybe now illegal or unacceptable. Porn is everywhere, catering to every taste, no matter how deviant. I try not to get too het up about a few 16 year olds giving hand jobs as the end of the world.

[giddyup]

5 minutes ago, Eindhoven said:

 

Deflection. We are trying to determine YOUR moral stance. It is only you who attempts to use the Age of Consent(and failed) as your moral compass.

If you don't agree with the laws(even though you clearly do not understand them), what is your stance?

See post #142.

Edited July 3, 2020 by giddyup

[CorpusChristie]

14 minutes ago, giddyup said:

But I have never said or agreed with adults having sex with a 14 or 16 year old, that's just something that you suggested. 

You do seem to be suggesting that Child abuse is acceptable as long as its legal for them to get married . and you choose an anomaly like Massachusetts which has no  minimum age on people getting married .  

Edited July 3, 2020 by CorpusChristie

[Jai Dee]

Several troll posts as well as replies have been removed.

[giddyup]

Just now, CorpusChristie said:

You do seem to be suggesting that Child abuse is acceptable as long as its legal from them to get married . and you choose an anomaly like Massachusetts which has no  minimum age on people getting married .  

Different times, different standards.

[CorpusChristie]

1 minute ago, giddyup said:

I try not to get too het up about a few 16 year olds giving hand jobs as the end of the world.

What about 12 year old girls getting flown in to provide sexual services for old men .

How do you fell about that ?

[giddyup]

Just now, CorpusChristie said:

What about 12 year old girls getting flown in to provide sexual services for old men .

How do you fell about that ?

Unproven, and I don't answer to hypotheticals.

[candide]

48 minutes ago, CGW said:

I'm sure ewe are correct, doubtless Clinton and the other "suspects" are innocent of any "conspiracy" and Berman was mere coincidence.

Have a nice day!

Are you claiming that a Grand Jury procedure can last less than 2 weeks?

[welovesundaysatspace]

24 minutes ago, giddyup said:

I'm stating the law, the facts. Take your grievances up with the lawmakers.

You’re refusing to answer whether you find it ok that a 50 something years old man pays 12-16 years old girls for sexual acts. 
 

You’re refusing to answer how all your definitions about children are any relevant. 
 

We can all imagine what kind of person you are and why you are in(to) Thailand. 

[CorpusChristie]

1 minute ago, giddyup said:

Unproven, and I don't answer to hypotheticals.

Yes, he killed himself (or was murdered )in jail before the case came to trial and thus remain as just allegations