Popular Post rvaviator Posted July 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2020 5 hours ago, johnpetersen said: Below are a few photos taken of the crowd. Count the masks. Not hard even if you have a problem counting to 2. As reported in the press ???? ... "From previous estimates .. the wearing of masks have now increased by 50% due to Trumps support of masks" .... (I counted 3 .. not 2 ...) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rvaviator Posted July 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2020 https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/07/when-trumps-understanding-of-the-world-is-flipped-on-its-head/613840/ Interesting viewpoint 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post checkered flag Posted July 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2020 1 minute ago, rvaviator said: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/07/when-trumps-understanding-of-the-world-is-flipped-on-its-head/613840/ Interesting viewpoint This is an alt left propaganda rag at best. Like CNN and NYT. 1 1 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dap Posted July 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Canuck1966 said: But you support defunding the police, breaking down the nuclear family, releasing thousands and thousands of criminals from prison etc etc? Your words, not his. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post johnpetersen Posted July 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2020 29 minutes ago, Orton Rd said: Trump will likely destroy Biden in Tv debates, should be entertaining Because of his command of the facts? 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Slip Posted July 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2020 5 minutes ago, checkered flag said: This is an alt left propaganda rag at best. Like CNN and NYT. Really? You're swinging and missing this morning I'm afraid: Quote Driven by its staunch opposition to Donald Trump, The Atlantic has endorsed Hillary Clinton for President of the United States, marking just the third time in the magazine's 160-year history that it has made a presidential endorsement. "The Atlantic does not have a tradition of weighing in on presidential contests except when there is perceived to be a danger to the Republic," Jeffrey Goldberg, the Atlantic's national correspondent and the man who wrote the first draft of the endorsement, told CNNMoney. "The founding manifesto of The Atlantic was that it would be 'the organ of no party or clique,'" Goldberg continued. "We adhere to that. Only when a candidate is so obviously dangerous, or so obviously unqualified for the job, does The Atlantic decide to weigh in." https://money.cnn.com/2016/10/05/media/the-atlantic-endorsement-hillary-clinton/index.html 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post johnpetersen Posted July 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2020 47 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said: In 2016 Trump's win wasn't expected either, what makes you think Nov. will be any different? ???? George H.W. Bush won in 1988? Why would anyone think 1992 would be different? Jimmy Carter won in 1976. Why would anyone think 1980 would be any different? You know the expression "what a difference a year makes"? Multiply that by 4. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orton Rd Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 7 minutes ago, johnpetersen said: Because of his command of the facts? Together with Biden's lack of any, even of where he is ???? 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dap Posted July 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2020 40 minutes ago, xylophone said: Oh do give it a rest, especially when you are saying that "what my country has seen recently is peaceful protests turn into mob rule", this because such things have been ongoing for many decades in the USA. Peaceful protests have turned violent, the police have been responsible for unnecessary beatings and deaths, statues have been defaced, and one particular demonstration which I found to be absolutely disgusting, was where white people were screaming, hissing and spitting at a black person because they were being escorted to a white school. This has been endemic within the USA for decades/centuries, as I said, and sadly demonstrations there and around the world have turned violent, or have been hijacked by an unruly element, or even paid unruly elements, so this is just history repeating itself. Unfortunately it has gained momentum because of the unlawful killing of black folk of late, and the grievances that these people have against law enforcement officers that have brutalised them for decades has become something much bigger, now it is a need to be able to respect blacks, and this has mushroomed into something that encompasses their grievances from the past until today. Mob rule has been around forever and the problem here is that trump and his divisive rhetoric is just stoking the fires, so a divisive president is getting exactly what he wants. This is not a "left-wing cultural revolution" but a bringing to the fore of grievances that have been unanswered and unsettled. Absolutely well said!! and thank you. 4 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LomSak27 Posted July 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2020 If the pandemic keeps the surge its on, into next week, and we get above the 80K a day. The pandemic will be OUT OF CONTROL. Trump seemed to give up doing anything about it as of a week ago. A former CIA chief said, 'he's went AWOL' tossed in the towel. He has no stomach for national leadership required to fight a pandemic. As such Trump reckoned his best bet, maybe only one, is to try and ignite a culture/social war. And he has a media propaganda site just for that, to poor gas, FOX NEWS. While riots & white rage in the street are fun, once the pandemic goes critical, the cost of the meltdown will enormous. They bitch about the lockdown & masks, just wait. Once it gets out of control it will roar right through till election day. I wonder if he will just quit instead of facing judgement day. stock up 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post earlinclaifornia Posted July 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2020 1 hour ago, simon43 said: I'm not American, no great interest in US politics. But I'd bet $10 that Trump will win the next election hands down! I think that there is a huge silent majority who will vote for him in November.... I want that bet ok? 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post klauskunkel Posted July 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2020 2 hours ago, riclag said: 5 hours ago, klauskunkel said: 2 Statues: Donald J. Trump and Ronald McDonald Two popular institutions that represents beautiful capitalism! and clogged arteries... 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Morch Posted July 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2020 30 minutes ago, checkered flag said: This is an alt left propaganda rag at best. Like CNN and NYT. All of these are "alt left" only if one if firmly entrenched at the extreme right. As for being "propaganda rags", you'd be hard pressed to support this view with anything of substance. Regardless of your views, they are acceptable sources on this forum. 5 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 56 minutes ago, Orton Rd said: Trump will likely destroy Biden in Tv debates, should be entertaining That might happen, but it's not what my comment was about. Very Trumpian there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkered flag Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 35 minutes ago, johnpetersen said: Because of his command of the facts? Finally you said something that's true. Great! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkered flag Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 17 minutes ago, Morch said: All of these are "alt left" only if one if firmly entrenched at the extreme right. As for being "propaganda rags", you'd be hard pressed to support this view with anything of substance. Regardless of your views, they are acceptable sources on this forum. For you and the radical lefties only. Not for those of us that can think. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post J Town Posted July 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2020 Remember when politicians had honorable platforms and argued ideas instead of just flinging poo at each other?I miss those days. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 2 hours ago, wwest5829 said: And their speeches were similar in tone and content? Perhaps the difference lies there as The Donald has made clear he wants to project. As an American, I oppose his words, his policies and his actions ... As is your right. It's also the right of millions of Americans to support him. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thaibeachlovers Posted July 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2020 19 minutes ago, J Town said: Remember when politicians had honorable platforms and argued ideas instead of just flinging poo at each other?I miss those days. Blame the media for making anyone with integrity or that loves their family stay well away from the sewer mess that is modern politics. IMO no sensible person puts themselves and their family through the outrageous media attacks. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post samran Posted July 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2020 1 hour ago, checkered flag said: A vote against Trump seems to be a vote for lawlessness and mob rule. Like the Animal Farm story playing out. Which alternate universe version of the book did you read? 8 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkered flag Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: Blame the media for making anyone with integrity or that loves their family stay well away from the sewer mess that is modern politics. IMO no sensible person puts themselves and their family through the outrageous media attacks. But in the ballot box they'll vote for law and order and not chaos and destruction. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post xylophone Posted July 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2020 1 hour ago, rvaviator said: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/07/when-trumps-understanding-of-the-world-is-flipped-on-its-head/613840/ Interesting viewpoint A superbly written and elucidated article, great work. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post xylophone Posted July 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2020 2 hours ago, MyTHaiMyKe said: Because I know President Trump is smarter and better than all of yours put together! In that case, remind me not to believe anything you say. 11 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post samran Posted July 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2020 (edited) 16 minutes ago, checkered flag said: But in the ballot box they'll vote for law and order and not chaos and destruction. You know he is actually the president at the moment. The chaos and destruction is happening on his watch. Not to mention the 140k deaths and rising. The guy is a poster boy for incompetence. And somehow - this will all vanish when he gets re-elected? Edited July 4, 2020 by samran 14 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickG16 Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 @earlinclaifornia If you can try explain why you are confused I'm happy to explain my post. (As a non American with a vague interest in the well-being of the world) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 A troll post has been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post riclag Posted July 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2020 1 hour ago, checkered flag said: A vote against Trump seems to be a vote for lawlessness and mob rule. Like the Animal Farm story playing out. I think you nailed it! Give the animals a inch and they'll take miles upon miles! In the beginning it started as a peaceful protest ,to riots to anarchy and mob rule politics. By keeping the focus on the destructive force of the mob,combined with the dems contributing to it ,through their silence,it will <deleted> off that swing state voter, who still wants a safe secure environment ,that these far left wing radicals want to take away, by dismantling law and order! He's gonna paint biden, dems, the far left and the activist pretending to be journalist, as supporters, of the party that's attacking the foundation of America 2 2 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post klikster Posted July 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2020 4 hours ago, Isaan sailor said: Yep, they don’t like the Washington Redskins or the Cleveland Indians. So how racist are the Cleveland Browns or the Chicago Blackhawks? The Cleveland "Browns" is not racist, but a tribute to Paul Brown 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riclag Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 56 minutes ago, J Town said: Remember when politicians had honorable platforms and argued ideas instead of just flinging poo at each other?I miss those days. They were never honorable imop excluding Jimmy Carter. Many were all rich elitists who all played politics together. Many people don't like politicians,lawyers and used car salespeople, their professions are stereotyped as having a license to steal! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post johnpetersen Posted July 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2020 7 hours ago, klauskunkel said: 2 Statues: Donald J. Trump and Ronald McDonald 4 hours ago, riclag said: Two popular institutions that represents beautiful capitalism! And both riddled with cholesterol! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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