Two Seattle protesters hit by car on highway, one critically injured

[ThailandRyan]

14 minutes ago, neverere said:

I find it incredible that so many on this thread are condoning murder, how did so many of you become morally derelict ? You should all take a look in the mirror and ask yourselves how you would feel in one of your children or siblings was killed in cold blood by some nutjob, standing up for what they believed was right, regardless of your political stance.

It is Manslaughter and nothing more.  Either with Gross Negligence or without.  Unless the DA has enough, with prior planning, premeditation or other evidence to charge murder then Manslaughter is what will be the true charge.

[Don Mega]

15 minutes ago, neverere said:

I find it incredible that so many on this thread are condoning murder, how did so many of you become morally derelict ? You should all take a look in the mirror and ask yourselves how you would feel in one of your children or siblings was killed in cold blood by some nutjob, standing up for what they believed was right, regardless of your political stance.

Has the driver been charged with murder ?

[The Barmbeker]

4 hours ago, ftpjtm said:

So you're saying that an entire ethnicity or profession shouldn't be judged by the actions of a few of their members? ????

I know!

Crazy concept!

Any follow up uestions?

[neverere]

9 minutes ago, tlandtday said:

Yeah the guy should have slowed down but it is undersandable that if protesters can get angry and beat people, burn down buildings, occupy property and block highways that it is entiredly possible that this guy had a fit of rage and was not thinking streaight much like the protester putting his life at risk on a freeway.... 

Slowed down ? Did you read what actually happened ?

[neverere]

6 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said:

I find it incredible that so many that want to "defund the police" and (presumably) have group hugs and chats with a social worker in emergencies suddenly want law and order now that their own got hurt. If this tragedy serves as a warning to the left, that if they are going to block highways at nights or other silly tricks, they may well get hurt well so much the better.

 Trump should extend his 10 year mandatory sentence for these thugs blocking the road. And to the authorities in Washington that let anarchy spread to the extent that many lives have been lost in the mayhem. Totally inexcusable.

You talk about law & order, yet you condone murder ? Get a grip.

 

 

[neverere]

7 minutes ago, Don Mega said:

Has the driver been charged with murder ?

Yes he has. Read the article.

[neverere]

9 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

It is Manslaughter and nothing more.  Either with Gross Negligence or without.  Unless the DA has enough, with prior planning, premeditation or other evidence to charge murder then Manslaughter is what will be the true charge.

He is being charged with murder. Educate yourself prior to posting please.

[The Barmbeker]

8 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said:

I find it incredible that so many that want to "defund the police" and (presumably) have group hugs and chats with a social worker in emergencies suddenly want law and order now that their own got hurt. If this tragedy serves as a warning to the left, that if they are going to block highways at nights or other silly tricks, they may well get hurt well so much the better.

 Trump should extend his 10 year mandatory sentence for these thugs blocking the road. And to the authorities in Washington that let anarchy spread to the extent that many lives have been lost in the mayhem. Totally inexcusable.

Just because you still don't understand what "defunding" means,...

[DoctorG]

9 minutes ago, neverere said:

He is being charged with murder. Educate yourself prior to posting please.

Can you show me where in the OP it says that please. I have just re-read it and it does not mention murder. Thanks.

[Don Mega]

26 minutes ago, neverere said:

Yes he has. Read the article.

Can you link the article please, the ones posted in the this thread thus far don't mention a murder charge.

[neverere]

19 minutes ago, DoctorG said:

Can you show me where in the OP it says that please. I have just re-read it and it does not mention murder. Thanks.

It doesn't say it in the OP. I read it in a news article. Further reading shows that he actually hasn't been charged with murder yet. Pending the investigation I assume he will be.  

"Mr Kelete was charged with two counts of vehicular assault on Saturday and denied bail.

Local officials were trying to determine the motive for the attack on the freeway, which has been shut for the last 19 days due to protests."

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-05/black-lives-matter-protesters-injured-by-car-on-seattle-highway/12423502

 

Edited July 5, 2020 by neverere
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[neverere]

5 minutes ago, Don Mega said:

Can you link the article please, the ones posted in the this thread thus far don't mention a murder charge.

See above.

Edited July 5, 2020 by neverere
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[Don Mega]

Just now, neverere said:

See below.

Yeah am not seeing much.

 

[DoctorG]

1 minute ago, neverere said:

It doesn't say it in the OP. I read it in a news article. I further reading shows that he actually hasn't been charged with murder yet. Pending the investigation I assume he will be.  

"Mr Kelete was charged with two counts of vehicular assault on Saturday and denied bail.

Local officials were trying to determine the motive for the attack on the freeway, which has been shut for the last 19 days due to protests."

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-05/black-lives-matter-protesters-injured-by-car-on-seattle-highway/12423502

 

Thanks for responding. As usual we will have to wait for the full story to evolve. Depending upon his motive he may well be charged with murder or vehicular homicide later.

[Youlike]

Why is Trump allowing all this bs? Taking over Seattle and blocking highways for 19 days....is he too scared to arrest those protestors, one might get hurt during the arrests...maybe even a black person....owwwww..

 

Arrest them! What are you waiting for?

[sherwood]

What was the protest by the victims about in the first place?

Not free tampons again surely.

The world has gone nuts.

 

I miss the news for a year or two and things seem out of control. Now they are telling me China is about ready to start a war. 

[TopDeadSenter]

11 minutes ago, Youlike said:

Why is Trump allowing all this bs? Taking over Seattle and blocking highways for 19 days....is he too scared to arrest those protestors, one might get hurt during the arrests...maybe even a black person....owwwww..

 

Arrest them! What are you waiting for?

Understand your frustration. But Trump is playing this beautifully. The left want Trump to send in the army and end the mayhem in a few minutes, but he knows that would leave a body count and they would forever beat him with that. Especially if, (shock horror) a black person died. So, he let them set up a pure socialist state in the heart of Seattle. He let them OD on drugs and beat people not appearing to be lefties, he let them shoot each other, he let them set up racially segregated areas(apartheid?) and extort each other, and for chaos to take over this wonderful pure socialist state. Masterful, and point proven. He lets them block highways, and end up killing each other doing so. Again, Trump wins, the left loses.

 Seeing so many posts here supporting the car driver just proves it. Normal people are not impressed with the BLM rioters, no matter what spin MSM puts on it all. Election is in November, just a few months away.

[TopDeadSenter]

1 hour ago, The Barmbeker said:

Just because you still don't understand what "defunding" means,...

"Yes, We Mean Literally Abolish the Police. Because reform won’t happen."

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/12/opinion/sunday/floyd-abolish-defund-police.html

[simple1]

1 hour ago, TopDeadSenter said:

"Yes, We Mean Literally Abolish the Police. Because reform won’t happen."

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/12/opinion/sunday/floyd-abolish-defund-police.html

As you well know it is an extremist interpretation - it is not the true message or meaning of 'defund policing', nor will it ever be enacted in legislation.

 

What does defund the police really mean - some examples...

 

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-09/what-does-defund-the-police-actually-mean/12335028#:~:text="Defund the police" means taking,them into other public programs.&text=Supporters want those funds redirected,Education

 

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2020/06/19/what-does-defund-the-police-mean-and-does-it-have-merit/#:~:text=%E2%80%9CDefund%20the%20police%E2%80%9D%20means%20reallocating,That's%20it.

 

 

Edited July 5, 2020 by simple1

[Sujo]

2 hours ago, tlandtday said:

Yeah the guy should have slowed down but it is undersandable that if protesters can get angry and beat people, burn down buildings, occupy property and block highways that it is entiredly possible that this guy had a fit of rage and was not thinking streaight much like the protester putting his life at risk on a freeway.... 

The freeway was closed, by police. The driver entered the wrong way and was driving the wrong way.

[berrec]

Well no idiots on highway, no incident to report; you can't put brains in statues!

[tgw]

10 hours ago, nausea said:

The driver was black, I hear, that's going to disrupt a few potential narratives; anyway, blocking an interstate in the middle of the night, no reflective gear or what have you - what could go wrong?

well, the media are totally allowed to change his color into white or report that "he felt white" at the moment, if that makes for a better story.

[Shot]

Mayor Jenny is so 'woke' she's asleep. She has allowed the protests on I5 with support of the WSP, who works for gov. inslee. Two murders of black men in CHOP/CHAZ, and they don't have a suspect, even though there were witnesses. Something stinks here.  

[johnpetersen]

9 minutes ago, tgw said:

well, the media are totally allowed to change his color into white or report that "he felt white" at the moment, if that makes for a better story.

And I'm sure you have evidence to share with us that this is something that the media does. I await it with interest.

[Mama Noodle]

3 minutes ago, Shot said:

Mayor Jenny is so 'woke' she's asleep. She has allowed the protests on I5 with support of the WSP, who works for gov. inslee. Two murders of black men in CHOP/CHAZ, and they don't have a suspect, even though there were witnesses. Something stinks here.  

Liberalism and politics are what stinks here. This <deleted> has been going on for weeks now and the politicians have several bodies stacked up in their quest to be “woke”. 
 

Antifa/BLM are currently rioting in Portland and federal police are using CS gas FINALLY

[johnpetersen]

56 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said:

Liberalism and politics are what stinks here. This <deleted> has been going on for weeks now and the politicians have several bodies stacked up in their quest to be “woke”. 
 

Antifa/BLM are currently rioting in Portland and federal police are using CS gas FINALLY

Sure Anitifa. So small in numbers that they're almost imaginary. This is the same kind of prejudice that the civil right movement experienced during the 50's and the 60's. Then it was communists who were blamed for inciting black americans.

[BadBouy]

"Summer of Love" continues!

[steven100]

one has to be careful walking on a freeway at night, it's fraught with all kinds of dangers and especially if it's dark, and it's illegal.

[Enzian]

50 minutes ago, johnpetersen said:

Sure Anitifa. So small in numbers that they're almost imaginary. This is the same kind of prejudice that the civil right movement experienced during the 50's and the 60's. Then it was communists who were blamed for inciting black americans.

Yes, I just imagined all that burning and looting, sitting here in peaceful Thailand. And as a matter of historical fact the CPUSA did co-opt the civil rights movement starting in the 30s and right on basically to present, and to some degree the political right in America deserved it, but it has left a very difficult legacy.

[IAMHERE]

13 hours ago, rooster59 said:

At this time we're not suspecting drugs or alcohol as a factor in the crash."

I bet the authorities in Seattle didn't bother to do tests on the middle of the superhighway at night.