32 Pheu Thai MPs vow to stand by student protesters

[rooster59]

32 Pheu Thai MPs vow to stand by student protesters

By THE NATION

 

 

Several Pheu Thai Party lawmakers pledged to support pro-democracy student protesters and have offered to provide bail in case they are arrested.

 

 

Somkid Chuakhong, a Pheu Thai member of Parliament from Ubon Ratchathani and deputy president of the Committee on Administration at the House of Representatives, said on Friday (August 14) that the committee president and Pheu Thai MP from Nakhon Phanom Phaijit Sriworakhan had tasked him with monitoring the protests of pro-democracy students and the public that are taking place in Bangkok, the North and the Northeast regions.

 

“Myself and 31 other MPs will stand with the protesters to ensure their safety, and will prepare our salary certificates to pay bail money in case any of the protesters are arrested,” he said.

 

The list of 32 MPs:

 

Somkid Chuakhong, Kriang Kantinan, Anudit Nakornthap, Chuwit Pitakpornpanlop, Karun Hosakul, Somying Buabut, Jirayu Huangsub, Warasit Kantinan, Aekkachai Songamnatcharoen, Ratthakit Phaleepat, Praphusak Jintawet, Danai Mahiphan, Piyawat Pansaichua, Boonkaew Somwong, Thanakorn Chaisakul, Chanok Janthathong, Saran Timsuwan, Phakawat Srisurapol, Sayam Hatthasongkro, Natthawut Kongjandee, Thassanee Buranupakorn, Ongart Wongprayoon, Phananat Sri-insut, Wan Yubamrung, Anusorn Panthong, Theerarat Samretwanich, Suphaphorn Khongwutpanya, Chirathat Kraidecha, Chakkaphol Tangsuttitham, Wanniwat Somboon, Kitthanya Wajadee, Jiraphorn Sinthuphrai.

 

Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30392993

 

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[OneMoreFarang]

7 minutes ago, rooster59 said:

Several Pheu Thai Party lawmakers pledged to support pro-democracy student protesters and have offered to provide

Pheu Thai want power for dear leader and they pretend his crimes didn't happen.

They want more of the same.

We all remember what happened last time when the paid Pheu Thai supporters pretended to protest peacefully for democracy. Never forget!

 

I hope the real pro democracy students stay far away from the red mob or whatever color they use this time.

Protesters are not supposed to get paid. In the moment they get paid they make themselves the tools of the paymaster.

Don't do that!

 

The picture is from Wikipedia, no problem with copyright.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Thai_political_protests

 

[nausea]

If you sup with the devil use a long spoon.

[scorecard]

3 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Pheu Thai want power for dear leader and they pretend his crimes didn't happen.

They want more of the same.

We all remember what happened last time when the paid Pheu Thai supporters pretended to protest peacefully for democracy. Never forget!

 

I hope the real pro democracy students stay far away from the red mob or whatever color they use this time.

Protesters are not supposed to get paid. In the moment they get paid they make themselves the tools of the paymaster.

Don't do that!

 

The picture is from Wikipedia, no problem with copyright.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Thai_political_protests

 

Very well said indeed!  "We all remember what happened last time when the paid Pheu Thai supporters pretended to protest peacefully for democracy. Never forget!

 

I hope the real pro democracy students stay far away from the red mob or whatever color they use this time.

 

Protesters are not supposed to get paid. In the moment they get paid they make themselves the tools of the paymaster.

Don't do that!"

 

I really hope the students stick to their demands and their policies and morals and don't allow red folks to infiltrate their numbers.

 

As said PT ultimately have their own aims which don't align at all with what the students are tying to achieve. And don't align to quality democracy. Their own gang is not democratically developed or organized.

 

[sweatalot]

I hope the students know where peu Thai is coming from and will not go for Thaksin to come back - that would not improve the situation at all.

[pegman]

1 hour ago, sweatalot said:

I hope the students know where peu Thai is coming from and will not go for Thaksin to come back - that would not improve the situation at all.

So you have a problem with what democracy produces? Don't pretend to be a democrate  then. To turn this country back into a democracy it's going to take some rough sledding. For that to happen the Reds are going to have to hit the streets again. Revolutions aren't for the faint hearted. The thugs running things aren't going to go  quietly into the night without some persuasion. They are going  to have to be shoved out.

[Scot123]

6 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Pheu Thai want power for dear leader and they pretend his crimes didn't happen.

They want more of the same.

We all remember what happened last time when the paid Pheu Thai supporters pretended to protest peacefully for democracy. Never forget!

 

I hope the real pro democracy students stay far away from the red mob or whatever color they use this time.

Protesters are not supposed to get paid. In the moment they get paid they make themselves the tools of the paymaster.

Don't do that!

 

The picture is from Wikipedia, no problem with copyright.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Thai_political_protests

 

Yes innocents were murdered by the military at a temple then the brave nurse who aided them and witnessed was persecuted then just disappeared/silenced.  What about the coup makers preventing people from voting as they new who the people wanted wasnt them.

[rasmus5150]

Keep the demonstrations "clean", keep out Pheu Thai.

 

If they involve Pheu Thai, then the end result will not be democracy but only more corruption and incompetence.

[Dap]

1 hour ago, pegman said:

So you have a problem with what democracy produces? Don't pretend to be a democrate  then. To turn this country back into a democracy it's going to take some rough sledding. For that to happen the Reds are going to have to hit the streets again. Revolutions aren't for the faint hearted. The thugs running things aren't going to go  quietly into the night without some persuasion. They are going  to have to be shoved out.

Very well said - thank you.

[holy cow cm]

No comment 

Edited August 16, 2020 by holy cow cm

[JimGant]

28 minutes ago, pegman said:

So you have a problem with what democracy produces?

Sometimes. I'm not too happy with what's happened in America, where now everyone with a television has the vote, and can just make decisions based on sound bites that are lies, as they don't have the IQ or wherewithal to read up on all the facts. The original America allowed only for educated people to have the vote (white, male landowners). Universal suffrage, alas, allowed the overweight, tattooed bikers of recent South Dakota fame to elect (reelect) a president who, if bikers good read, research, analyze, and make a reasoned decision, wouldn't have a chance.

Anyway, as for Thailand and their universal suffrage, as such -- I'm not too comfortable with the masses making a reasoned decision on any future election.

Unfortunately, the current economic mess in Thailand, due to corvid, will scream for a change of gov't, particularly since the pedigree of the current one isn't too spick and span. Not that another gov't could, or would, do any better...

No, I kind of wish Thailand could semi-democratically find and embed their own Lee Kuan Yew. All this <deleted> about Western style democracy is, well, just <deleted> over here in Asia. And I wish Thailand, like Singapore, would preclude seditionist street rallies -- as they, unfortunately, can end up in bloody confrontations of idealists vs pragmatists.

None of this is going to help the tough road ahead for Thailand in recovering from corvid. And, actually, the current gov't, by world assessment, is not doing too badly.

 

[Yinn]

6 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

We all remember what happened last time when the paid Pheu Thai supporters pretended to protest peacefully for democracy.

They win 4 election.

up to the people right?

They win the election last time same. 

 

But 

 parliamentarians should consider the fact that Prayut lacks a mandate from the people since he did not run for election. Also, he is the sole PM candidate nominated by Phalang Pracharat, which failed to win a majority of seats in the March election and thereby has little in the way of legitimacy to form a government. 

Link 

https://www.nationthailand.com/opinion/30370562

 

 

[OneMoreFarang]

19 minutes ago, Scot123 said:

Yes innocents were murdered by the military at a temple then the brave nurse who aided them and witnessed was persecuted then just disappeared/silenced.  What about the coup makers preventing people from voting as they new who the people wanted wasnt them.

Yes, lots of innocent soldiers died because Thaksin wanted "his" money back. The red-shirts could all have gone home. The free busses were ready to bring them back to their homes.

 

And please look up the definition of murder. You obviously don't understand the meaning.

[from the home of CC]

the billionaire not leading the charge? lol, figures. Just waiting for all the armchair Che Guevara's on this site to suggest that Thais should forego working to provide for the family table and instead hit the streets.  

[OneMoreFarang]

11 minutes ago, Yinn said:

They win 4 election.

up to the people right?

They win the election last time same. 

Winning elections does not mean the winners are above the law.

Thaksin and Yingluck are wanted criminal fugitives because they broke the laws.

They could still be happy in Thailand if they wouldn't have been so greedy.

 

No, PT did not win the majority of the votes in the last election.

[FarFlungFalang]

2 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Winning elections does not mean the winners are above the law.

Thaksin and Yingluck are wanted criminal fugitives because they broke the laws.

They could still be happy in Thailand if they wouldn't have been so greedy.

 

No, PT did not win the majority of the votes in the last election.

Was not Prayuth above the law when he executed his coup in 2014?

[OneMoreFarang]

1 minute ago, FarFlungFalang said:

Was not Prayuth above the law when he executed his coup in 2014?

He helped to remove the criminal Thaksin, his little sister and he stopped the red mob.

That's why lots of people gave flowers to the soldiers. Thank you Prayuth.

 

[Scot123]

6 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Yes, lots of innocent soldiers died because Thaksin wanted "his" money back. The red-shirts could all have gone home. The free busses were ready to bring them back to their homes.

 

And please look up the definition of murder. You obviously don't understand the meaning.

Oh yes I understand the meaning having served 3 years of my life on active service with 2 and a half of those years on the streets of NI so I'm well aware what constitutes being a soldier doing ones which involves taking lives and those of murdering unarmed people. The man who gave those orders should not be strutting about on the international stage. Yes I know the difference. 

[bobbin]

7 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Winning elections does not mean the winners are above the law.

Thaksin and Yingluck are wanted criminal fugitives because they broke the laws.

They could still be happy in Thailand if they wouldn't have been so greedy.

 

No, PT did not win the majority of the votes in the last election.

What don't you understand about political persecution, as regards Thaksin and Yingluck?

 

PT didn't have a snowball's chance of winning the last election given the restructuring of the process, yet still received much support. And his/her point was that PP did not receive a majority either, even with the playing field tilted in their favour.

[OneMoreFarang]

8 minutes ago, bobbin said:

What don't you understand about political persecution, as regards Thaksin and Yingluck?

Which part about being a criminal don't you understand.

A criminal who is at the time when he commits his crimes a politician is still a criminal.

The list of Thaksin's crimes is long and it's not too difficult to see that he used his political position to commit many crimes.

Or do you really believe he is innocent? 555

[TooBigToFit]

2 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Which part about being a criminal don't you understand.

A criminal who is at the time when he commits his crimes a politician is still a criminal.

The list of Thaksin's crimes is long and it's not too difficult to see that he used his political position to commit many crimes.

Or do you really believe he is innocent? 555

Thaksin doesn't seem to have the human rights abuses to his name like the people he is opposite to. Of course, we can't talk about the truth under the regime you think is so much better than others. I guess if Thaksin had murdered those opposed to him like the fascists you love, you probably would like him.

[TooBigToFit]

While Thaksin was in things weren't too bad in terms of freedom of expression, but once kicked out everything went fascist.

 

"Between 1990 and 2005, there were an average of five new cases per year. Since then, however, there have been at least 400 cases - an estimated 1,500 percent increase." -Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lèse_majesté_in_Thailand

 

I don't even know if that's been updated to the current year.

 

Bodies of Thai citizens found in the Mekong river with their stomachs cut open and filled with concrete and this regime and the other powerful institutions in Thailand don't react one bit to it. They don't do an investigation. They don't care. This is why the people are angry. It's not this event, it's the endless history of this abuse and the apathy by the same military-royalist regimes that has thrown people over the edge. In decades past, the news of these types of murders wouldn't even get in the news.

Edited August 16, 2020 by TooBigToFit
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[Sujo]

27 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

He helped to remove the criminal Thaksin, his little sister and he stopped the red mob.

That's why lots of people gave flowers to the soldiers. Thank you Prayuth.

 

To do that they acted illegally so are also criminals, but above the law. Then prayut did not get elected.

 

Prayut should be in jail.

[morrobay]

59 minutes ago, Yinn said:

They win 4 election.

up to the people right?

They win the election last time same. 

 

But 

 parliamentarians should consider the fact that Prayut lacks a mandate from the people since he did not run for election. Also, he is the sole PM candidate nominated by Phalang Pracharat, which failed to win a majority of seats in the March election and thereby has little in the way of legitimacy to form a government. 

Link 

https://www.nationthailand.com/opinion/30370562

 

 

What a difference a second paragraph made. Nice English syntax. 

[FarFlungFalang]

55 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

He helped to remove the criminal Thaksin, his little sister and he stopped the red mob.

That's why lots of people gave flowers to the soldiers. Thank you Prayuth.

 

A democracy is when the people choose which criminals govern not the army.

[greg71]

 

[Grumpy John]

An uprising, rebellion, bringing true democracy to the people will be measured by the number of dead bodies in the streets.  It always ends up that way.  If the Red shirts get involved maybe some of the dead will be those opposing an uprising,  rebellion,  bringing true democracy to the country. 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

9 hours ago, rooster59 said:

Wan Yubamrung,

 

That's not the kind of supporter or family you want behind a student, pro-democracy movement. 

 

Chalerm, Wan, Duang... 

[Sujo]

The govt should also support the protests.

[scorecard]

2 hours ago, TooBigToFit said:

Thaksin doesn't seem to have the human rights abuses to his name like the people he is opposite to. Of course, we can't talk about the truth under the regime you think is so much better than others. I guess if Thaksin had murdered those opposed to him like the fascists you love, you probably would like him.

Seems to me you're assuming that because someone doesn't like Thaksin that automatically means that person loves the other side.

 

That can't be an automatic truth, because it ignores many other factors no the least that many TV folks have stated clearly it's not a valid assumption. 

 

Further it's very possible and many have already said it, they seriously didn't like both sides.