chicowoodduck Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 Well, in the big picture that is what keeps the wheels on the cart......money and lots of it....???????????????????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Curt1591 Posted August 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 18, 2020 I am not into institutionalized charity - too much "administration. I'd rather give directly to those in need. I don't give "hand outs". I don't give to beggars I do often buy from poor street vendors and give my recyclables and no longer used items to local salvagers. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 I donate directly to university girls whom need help with their university fees. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Saltire Posted August 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 18, 2020 32 minutes ago, JWRC said: Bamboo orphanage school on the Kanchanaburi/Myanmar border. Run by a wonderful lady, English I think. she can have up to 70 odd kids. You can sponsor a child for a very minimal yearly amount, or just make a one off donation. No corruption here. how she actually manages to feed and educate everybody I don't know, but she does an amazing job and really appreciates any help she can get. 1 hour ago, Katipo said: I have been supporting www.baanunrak.org in Sangklaburi for over 10 years. Completely transparent and no corruption. I just got back from a visit there last week. It is a home that supports and educates over 120 children, many of whom even get scholarships through university. They are over 50% self sufficient through their growing their own vegetables and farming animals (80 goats if I remember correctly). They also look after some single mothers who have been abandoned or ostracised for a variety of reasons. It truly is a wonderful place. I am very intersted in places like this especially as I live near Sangkhlaburi and did not know they existed. So I did a quick google and read their info. Bamboo for me was an instant 'I'm out' due to their recurring 'God is number one' theme - I could not support a place that pushes one religion down the throats of very vulnerable children. They also recommend for 2 and 3 week volunteers you have to come on a tourist visa and don't mention work. This is just wrong advice and could get you into real trouble with immigration. Baan UnRak though seems like an ok choice as their philosphy is more spiritual along the lines of Buddhism, encouraging meditation and love. This I feel is more culturally appropriate for Thai kids. Will look into them a bit more. After 5 years at an NGO school in Cambodia I came here hoping to continue in some way, only finding out voluteers are classed as workers and need a special volunteer visa. None of the above mention this. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Fairynuff Posted August 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 18, 2020 I support a dog rescue centre in the south. A woman whose entire life is taking care of between 100 and 200 dogs. I found out about her about 10 years ago from a Bangkok Post article. I went to see her, she’s an amazing woman, and totally honest. I visit when I can and donate regularly. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWRC Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 38 minutes ago, Saltire said: Bamboo for me was an instant 'I'm out' due to their recurring 'God is number one' theme - I could not support a place that pushes one religion down the throats of very vulnerable children. They also recommend for 2 and 3 week volunteers you have to come on a tourist visa and don't mention work. This is just wrong advice and could get you into real trouble with immigration. A bit harsh saying religion is pushed down children's throats, They can make their own minds up, and many keep their own religion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairynuff Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, JWRC said: A bit harsh saying religion is pushed down children's throats, They can make their own minds up, and many keep their own religion. I visited an orphanage operated by a Christian organisation, donated goods rather than cash as was suggested to me. So I took towels, pens, toothpaste and brushes etc. I went a couple of times until it was made clear that the kids had to live as Christians. At Christmas they used to tour the hotels singing carols. They were Buddhist kids and I wasn’t comfortable with their situation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilotman Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 6 minutes ago, JWRC said: A bit harsh saying religion is pushed down children's throats, They can make their own minds up, and many keep their own religion. I agree with Saltire Any charity that mentions God, or any other religious affiliations, I avoid. I particular avoid temples and monks. The are just a means of propaganda. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilotman Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Fairynuff said: I visited an orphanage operated by a Christian organisation, donated goods rather than cash as was suggested to me. So I took towels, pens, toothpaste and brushes etc. I went a couple of times until it was made clear that the kids had to live as Christians. At Christmas they used to tour the hotels singing carols. They were Buddhist kids and I wasn’t comfortable with their situation. plain propaganda and brain washing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saltire Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 7 minutes ago, JWRC said: A bit harsh saying religion is pushed down children's throats, They can make their own minds up, and many keep their own religion. Possibly, but that's the way their website came accross to me. 'School Rules God is Number One, so take care of His school and its environment.The children belong to God. Your lifestyle and choices will impact our children so we require:' 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairynuff Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 Just now, Pilotman said: plain propaganda and brain washing. What’s going on? We’re finding much common ground recently! Totally agree, I won’t support anything to do with religion 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pilotman Posted August 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Fairynuff said: What’s going on? We’re finding much common ground recently! Totally agree, I won’t support anything to do with religion It was bound to happen at some point. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saltire Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Saltire said: Possibly, but that's the way their website came accross to me. 'School Rules God is Number One, so take care of His school and its environment.The children belong to God. Your lifestyle and choices will impact our children so we require:' And this - note BYOB ???? We are a place for training God’s future workers so your presence with us should add to our children’s training. If the Lord calls you to come, it must be with a specific purpose in mind, either a specific project or with the plan to help in the practical things of everyday life, like baby care, cooking, washing dishes, carrying water, gardening, landscaping, construction, teaching, medical work, etc. Plan to live like we live – we are vegetarian, and have a basic vegetarian diet with rice for every meal. If you would like bread, feel free to bring your own. Edited August 18, 2020 by Saltire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilotman Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 12 minutes ago, Saltire said: And this - note BYOB ???? We are a place for training God’s future workers so your presence with us should add to our children’s training. If the Lord calls you to come, it must be with a specific purpose in mind, either a specific project or with the plan to help in the practical things of everyday life, like baby care, cooking, washing dishes, carrying water, gardening, landscaping, construction, teaching, medical work, etc. Plan to live like we live – we are vegetarian, and have a basic vegetarian diet with rice for every meal. If you would like bread, feel free to bring your own. vegetarians as well; it just gets worse. All we need now is a set of Vegans and we have the full set of deluded souls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipButty Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Saltire said: After 5 years at an NGO school in Cambodia I came here hoping to continue in some way, only finding out voluteers are classed as workers and need a special volunteer visa. None of the above mention this. The same when the Tsunami I met some guys building homes and shelter for the homeless on a volunteer basis then all of a sudden they clamped down and made people get work permits 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilotman Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 1 minute ago, ChipButty said: The same when the Tsunami I met some guys building homes and shelter for the homeless on a volunteer basis then all of a sudden they clamped down and made people get work permits We can hardly blame the authorities for this. You can bet that if they didn't have that rule, some low life farangs would have a scam going in days. The history in this place is teeming with such scams, from foreigners living here, often illegally and scamming others. Yes, the Thais do it as well, but the well known mafia wars of several years back in Pattaya and in Phuket showed the scale of the problem. If people genuinely want to do volunteer work here, it's not complicated (in normal pre covid times) to get the appropriate visa and short term work permit. My eldest kids did that for a few years during their school/ Uni holidays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairynuff Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Saltire said: And this - note BYOB ???? We are a place for training God’s future workers so your presence with us should add to our children’s training. If the Lord calls you to come, it must be with a specific purpose in mind, either a specific project or with the plan to help in the practical things of everyday life, like baby care, cooking, washing dishes, carrying water, gardening, landscaping, construction, teaching, medical work, etc. Plan to live like we live – we are vegetarian, and have a basic vegetarian diet with rice for every meal. If you would like bread, feel free to bring your own. That looks more like nutty evangelicals than just a religious organisation. I’d run a mile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toofarnorth Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 On my travels in late '70 we were on a train going from Delhi to Madras. Sharing the compartment were 2 Indian Airforce pilots , 0ne was reading a newspaper and it showed a picture of the top dog's luxury house , the top dog being the head of the biggest charity in the UK. It told of how much this head was taking for himself. Another article in the same paper was about a grain ship arriving at an Indian port ( Calcutta ? ) The authorities wanted a fee for the tying up and emptying of the container ship. The captain said it was free grain for starving people , he had no money for dock fees. The grain started to grow after a week or two and it got dumped in the sea. My charity goes mainly in tips for the locals where I eat , street food etc. Every Little Helps. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorpusChristie Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 1 hour ago, ChipButty said: The same when the Tsunami I met some guys building homes and shelter for the homeless on a volunteer basis then all of a sudden they clamped down and made people get work permits Wasnt that after six weeks when all the shelters had been built ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shammy Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 Most are scamming frauds. When looking for my condo in 2014 I asked the agent who could afford to pay 120000 to 140,000 baht a month for the condos near the embassies in Chitlom... He replied many are rented to govts, a lot to charities... I was amazed...saw same in Australia. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pravda Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 The charity of my stomach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavideol Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 none in Thailand but to 1 ex wife in France and 1 ex wife in the US, after that nothing left to give to anyone else 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katipo Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 3 hours ago, Saltire said: Baan UnRak though seems like an ok choice as their philosphy is more spiritual along the lines of Buddhism, encouraging meditation and love. This I feel is more culturally appropriate for Thai kids. Will look into them a bit more. After 5 years at an NGO school in Cambodia I came here hoping to continue in some way, only finding out voluteers are classed as workers and need a special volunteer visa. None of the above mention this. Baan Unrak is non-denominational. They don't mind whether you are Muslim, Buddhist, Christian, or whatever. They use daily meditation as a way for the children to find balance and peace. Many have experienced a lot of trauma, and meditation is one of the tools they use to help with this. If you live near Sangklaburi, you can visit their restaurant and bakery. There you can talk with someone about a visit to the actual home/school. You're heart will melt, and your mind will be blown. It's such an amazing place. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jvs Posted August 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 18, 2020 Charities,don't even get me started!!!Some posters already have told us where a lot of the money goes. How many % goes to where it is needed? 15 % at the most? Charities all over the world are asking for money to help the poor and needy. Most temples in Thailand are being paid for by poor people who can not afford to give money but they do!! When i was a kid i remember a big televised event asking for the starving people in Biafra,lots of pictures and video of starving kids. We all gave and it was the biggest event of that time and i do remember it well. Much later i saw videos made in Nigeria and all of the palaces and riches over there,if they would have cared for their own people there would have been no need for charity. You think this is a rant?Keep reading!! Real charities should receive a lot of government money and let the people who want to fight a war go door to door and ask for donations. When my mother died we found out she was living in poverty,we did not know and she never said anything. Old folks homes are great and easy hunting grounds for charity collectors,old people are easily intimidated and tricked. My mom donated around 50 euros each month to different agencies,heart foundation,kidney fund,cancer research and one or two more. They even made her sign up so it was deducted from her bank every month. Bunch of crooks.!!!! I have to add to this that there are a lot of dedicated organizations who are doing the right thing. If and when i give i do so where i can see what is being done and the result there off. I believe organized charities are almost the same as organized crime. Rant over. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5633572526 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 I donate to a children’s orphanage in Pattaya. My girlfriend and I will be delivering needed supplies next month. Monks in my opinion just a bunch of men too lazy to get a job. Don’t see any evidence of them doing anything for the people of Thailand. I will admit however to bending to the will of the girlfriend and leaving a little donation when visiting temples on Buddha days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 15 hours ago, Meat Pie 47 said: That's a bit rude in my opinion I am a pensioner living in OZ now, I don't have any family I still donate to 'Doctors Without Frontiers' Red Cross,Salvation Army and animal protection. No point saving any money (which I don't have a lot of) and lose it all when I kick the bucket. Well I have family a big one so therefore there's no money left for anyone else nothing rude about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthainess Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, nobodysfriend said: Very good , thank you . I programmed a monthly donation to Soi Dog . Do you have a link to Paws ? The way i see these dog charities near me, the people living off this money ( if you think the dogs get all the benefit wrong) have nice trucks and houses with swimming pools all paid for by your money. They also fill their place with barking yapping dogs. Edited August 18, 2020 by brianthainess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthainess Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 I give my empty bottles to a young kid up the road, comes on a push bike, she also delivers 20 lit water bottles with a hand cart she makes 8 baht. i admire any kids willing to do a bit of work as i did when a kid, but not at only 10 yrs old. The last place would be dogs before humans. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptic7 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 NONE. Charity starts (and stays) at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 (edited) Regular charities? Just about never. Too much money goes to administrative costs in most charities which in other words means that some people make their living by running charities, and a very lucrative living at that. Then suddenly 80%+ goes to 'administrative costs" (salaries) and a little of the money makes it to whatever the charity supports. Most are scams in my humble opinion. If I feel like giving locally I give to Adopt Me-ow Chiangmai. These folks are doing some great humanitarian work for cats and kittens on a shoe-string budget and making it work. Kudos. It's the way it should be done. Edited August 18, 2020 by connda 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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