Survey shows people worried about protests leading to hatred, violence

[Roadman]

It’s students that are protesting not Thaksins thugs running riot with their hit men. 
I struggle to see what the issue is in that poll as 69.43% of Thais are telling the government to talk to the students and take a hike. 

[spidermike007]

1 hour ago, Flying Saucage said:

I think they will commit a massacre again. They did it so often already, and always it worked well for them. And we all know they are absolutely immune to understand and to adapt to the new, modern world.

 

They will do it, I fear. They are not aware about the outcry of the world afterwards, but they don't care about this anymore anyway. An outrcy in the western world simply doesnt matter anymore for them. Because for sure they will have the backing of their Chinese buddies, and this will be enough for them already.

 

They will hand over Thailand to China economically, and China will give protection and good money to the generals in return, and also China will protect the coming archaic political system in Thailand. The lacking 'moral'-authority which they had before will be replaced by even more violence later. Hongkong is a blueprint.

 

Dark times are coming. Trigger-happy Apirat will be happy and proud soon.

Let us hope your dire prediction does not come to pass. I see the chances of a youth led movement wrestling power from the army at 40% or better. It is long overdue. Times are changing. Dinosaurs like Prayuth and Prawit are despised now. And people are really starting to understand just who and what they are. And what they represent.

 

Let us hope. I would love to see Thailand finally moving forward, after this toxic and retrograde army are dismissed. 

Edited August 24, 2020 by spidermike007

[soalbundy]

I think most a quite happy with the hatred without the demonstrations.

[from the home of CC]

if there was a movement to get rid of the monarchy in the UK would people care?

[soalbundy]

Just now, from the home of CC said:

if there was a movement to get rid of the monarchy in the UK would people care?

Lot of flag wavers in the UK so I think a lot would care about the sweet old lady in Windsor

[chilli42]

5 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Don't even concern yourself with it. It is a totally fake poll. The parts about the tree planting, and the support of the army gave that away. 

 

Just part of the army propaganda machine. 

I agree with you but it’s a very clear tell about how the Army/Government plan to play this as it develops.  They need scape goats

[Jenkins9039]

6 hours ago, webfact said:

protests would spread hatred in society, according to a NIDA Poll.

Would have to agree, just look at the Thaiger NEWS Portal, doing everything it can to incite a farang uprising supporting the peaceful demonstrations.

Edited August 24, 2020 by Jenkins9039

[DUNROAMIN]

5 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Don't even concern yourself with it. It is a totally fake poll. The parts about the tree planting, and the support of the army gave that away. 

 

Just part of the army propaganda machine. 

Must be getting a few tips from CCP.

[Sydebolle]

Tik Tok Tik Tok - the wick is getting shorter and shorter ......... 

[Enoon]

46 minutes ago, from the home of CC said:

if there was a movement to get rid of the monarchy in the UK would people care?

 

There is one.

 

Its "headline" commitment is to do so.

 

However the LM laws in Thailand also prohibit criticism of foreign monarchs/heirs. So as it would contravene TVF rules for me to post its website address I shall not do so.

 

Using the words "Republic", "Movement" and "UK" it is easily found.

 

 

 

Edited August 24, 2020 by Enoon

[DrTuner]

22 minutes ago, DUNROAMIN said:

Must be getting a few tips from CCP.

A bit more than a few.

 

https://www.thaienquirer.com/7301/thai-media-is-outsourcing-much-of-its-coronavirus-coverage-to-beijing-and-thats-just-the-start/

[tomauasia]

6 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Another fake, army sponsored poll, no doubt. My guess is that about 90% of the population supports the youth, this time around. 

 

The toxic army is despised like never before. They have over extended their welcome. They need to go, and the sooner, the better. They know that. We know that. 

Yes the real poll reads. People don't want coup leaders or fake elections. No stand over and bullying either. 100% hated is the real poll. Please empty desks and leave watches in the boxes on departure by taxis.

[Old Dissenter]

4 hours ago, Matzzon said:

Ops! Strange! But, that´s impossible! They say that Thailand have been free from Covid-19 for about 100 days now.

Are they saying that they have parties and protest groups that are importing filthy foreigners they bring in without the need of quarantine?

Manfarangs not wearing masks!

[Old Dissenter]

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

Let us hope your dire prediction does not come to pass. I see the chances of a youth led movement wrestling power from the army at 40% or better. It is long overdue. Times are changing. Dinosaurs like Prayuth and Prawit are despised now. And people are really starting to understand just who and what they are. And what they represent.

 

Let us hope. I would love to see Thailand finally moving forward, after this toxic and retrograde army are dismissed. 

There will be another erection.

[Matzzon]

8 minutes ago, Old Dissenter said:

There will be another erection.

Yes, I surely hope so. Hate to think it was the last time yesterday.

[ThailandRyan]

2 minutes ago, Matzzon said:

Yes, I surely hope so. Hate to think it was the last time yesterday.

But they make some items you can pick up at the pharmacy or along Sukhumvit if needed at decent prices to help

[Burma Bill]

8 hours ago, webfact said:

More than one-third of people

What about the other two-thirds - the majority??

[Flying Saucage]

3 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Let us hope your dire prediction does not come to pass. I see the chances of a youth led movement wrestling power from the army at 40% or better. It is long overdue. Times are changing. Dinosaurs like Prayuth and Prawit are despised now. And people are really starting to understand just who and what they are. And what they represent.

 

Let us hope. I would love to see Thailand finally moving forward, after this toxic and retrograde army are dismissed. 

I so much hope the same Mike. But I am quite pessimistic.

 

Just remember how the politics changed during the years after the coup. In the first years, till around 2018, issues like 'damaging the [international] tourism' and 'damaging the reputation of Thailand in the world' still had a relevance to the Prayut-government. But during the last year this changed completely. The tourism eventually was destroyed totally by the government itself, and they don't do the slightest attempt to improve anything soon. They don't care anymore. And also they don't care about the 'image of Thailand' in the Western world anymore. Not at all.

 

Instead, they do this:

 

https://www.thaienquirer.com/17341/is-thailands-foreign-minister-refusing-to-meet-with-western-countries/

 

It is part of Chinas road-and-belt initiative to increase the sphere of influence in South East Asia, and they do it by buying corrupt local governments. They have already very good control in Cambodia, Laos, Myanmar and Thailand, and maybe in the Philippines. They lost some grip in Malaysia after Najib was kicked out of the office. Where do you think Prawit got his watches from? From a living, very strong friend, I guess.

 

Will the Chinese succeed in Thailand? I fear yes, quite sure. Even if Prayut will be kicked out of office, the debt for all these multi-billion-$ projects like Chinese high-speed-trains, Chinese submarines and so on will be there, and allow the Chinese to control future Thai governments. And in the meantime many bancrupt Thai companies, hotels, airlines will be taken over by Chinese investors.

 

Will there be a massacre? Quite sure, in my opinion. These generals will not leave the arena peacefully. No way. What will follow after the massacre might depend on the amount of loyalty of lower ranks in the army, towards their country-raping generals. The romanian revolution against Ceaucescu comes to my mind. But, without a real revolution, nothing substantial and nothing sustainable will happen. 1932 was an unfinished revolution already.

 

If the government lies good enough and if the people are still gullible enough (which I doubt), there might be a temporary peaceful outcome, for the next 10 years, till the whole game will start again. 

[Surasak]

9 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Imagine the hatred when the army starts shooting the students and schoolkids.

We all know it's coming.

Should that happen I would hope the western countries would implement sanctions enough to cripple Thailand and its corrupt junta.

[DrTuner]

9 minutes ago, Surasak said:

Should that happen I would hope the western countries would implement sanctions enough to cripple Thailand and its corrupt junta.

They will, at which point usurpers will run straight to their CCP daddy.

[Scott Tracy]

The protests are not violent. They would only get violent when the authorities do a Lukoshenko.

 

The peasants are revolting.

 

I despair with some countries, but then, I look at the history of China, Vietnam and Cambodia and their 'popular uprisings' and wonder where Thailand is going. Apirat hasn't got long before he retires, he can see the protesters as country or nation haters and he's itching.....

[Scott Tracy]

I also think that there will not be a revolution. Most Thais just want to live and politics is something in passing. They despair about he who cannot be named, but can do nothing. The wife says Chan o Cha is not her Prime minister, but doesn't really care that much with her nose burried in the phone on Facebook day and night. She cares about handbags, perfume, buying stuff. She doesn't care about anything else. Meanwhile, the rest of the village is struggling to put food on the table. They don't care either, and why should they? They have bigger things to worry about than submarines and VIP aircraft.

[sead]

ITS called a protest. So clearly they protest to something.......

[jerolamo]

We think what we want, but it is always difficult to deny in figures the history of the country on this subject and the acts of violence against unarmed demonstrators, or against universities, students, disappearances, etc ...
Who is violent?

[jerolamo]

4 hours ago, Burma Bill said:

What about the other two-thirds - the majority??

they have been divided by dilution two times from year 2008.

[jerolamo]

1 hour ago, Scott Tracy said:

I also think that there will not be a revolution. Most Thais just want to live and politics is something in passing. They despair about he who cannot be named, but can do nothing. The wife says Chan o Cha is not her Prime minister, but doesn't really care that much with her nose burried in the phone on Facebook day and night. She cares about handbags, perfume, buying stuff. She doesn't care about anything else. Meanwhile, the rest of the village is struggling to put food on the table. They don't care either, and why should they? They have bigger things to worry about than submarines and VIP aircraft.

I think, on the contrary, that the Thais are very politicized because they have a very strong human bond, that they have very strong notions of patriotism (not necessarily nationalist, but certainly patriots), that they practice a lot of festivals all year round. National bodies loaded with symbolism, that they have a very present hierarchy in the administrations and that these are very present in the territories with very good job apply by very competent territories and elected people.

 

I think it is complicate for European people to see and well understand how it works to and what are they thinking. They are terribly human.

I think that just because people don't talk a lot doesn't mean they don't think about anything.

I think their story and their methods are threatening enough to silence a lot of people around.

 

There is an history, why not just read about this one to see ?

[DrTuner]

1 hour ago, jerolamo said:

There is an history, why not just read about this one to see ?

Yes, why not. A good starting place to learn about Thai hierachy is Sakdina.

 

http://www.thai-blogs.com/2009/03/11/last-bastion-of-the-orient/

 

Doesn't it look grand? I'm sure every Thai would love to squirm on the ground to please their masters, just like good old times.

[Flying Saucage]

48 minutes ago, DrTuner said:

Yes, why not. A good starting place to learn about Thai hierachy is Sakdina.

 

http://www.thai-blogs.com/2009/03/11/last-bastion-of-the-orient/

 

Doesn't it look grand? I'm sure every Thai would love to squirm on the ground to please their masters, just like good old times.

Wonderful article! Thanks for sharing it! 

 

Thais love to say "foreigners don't understan' Thailand'" but this article shows how simple and archaic the Thai system and the whole country works in reality. This masterpiece explains everything in the daily life in Thailand, in politics and jurisdiction, and the daily experiences in this country confirm everything written in this masterpiece. 

[kiwikeith]

14 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Another fake, army sponsored poll, no doubt. My guess is that about 90% of the population supports the youth, this time around. 

 

The toxic army is despised like never before. They have over extended their welcome. They need to go, and the sooner, the better. They know that. We know that. 

Stuck here in NZ, I asked my Thai wife (no university education) about this__ she knew nothing. 

I then asked my Thai niece who is uni educated and staying with us on working holiday about this and she's well aware of the situation. 

I suspect that to a degree, this may be the case. 

[hotchilli]

16 hours ago, steven100 said:

bingo  !   that's what I keep telling the TV farang on here but they know better.  lol  

Who did they ask?

Apathetic parents who have done nothing for the last 6 years?

Or did they ask the students.. because if they did the percentage would have been 100% not worried !