Hotel body demands govt reopen the country to foreigners

[Ireland32]

Tell the Hoteliers to tell  Army we don’t need stinking Submarines 

[Ireland32]

56 minutes ago, Max69xl said:

You do know that the numbers in cases and deaths in Thailand are ridiculously low compared to any country in Europe? We're taking about a country with ~69 million people. What's to be afraid about? There will of course be more cases if the borders opens up, but that's pretty normal. 

Let’s keep it that Way

[Ireland32]

1 hour ago, androokery said:

The Safe and Sealed proposition, as described regarding Phuket, would allow you to spend the first 15 nights within a 1 km radius of your hotel. Locals and employees of the hotel would have to stay there too.

In addition the entire island would be sealed off.

 

While it would be theoretically almost possible to seal off a place like Patong beach with its three major connecting roads (no, it isn’t because you could always get in and out using the trails or trek through the jungle), I do see some problems in sealing off parts of a place like Udon Thani.

 

So if Udon Thani ever gets a Safe and Sealed program, the details and rules may differ from those of Phuket. 

Too many Lao and Chinese swimming Mekong River they just caught 22 Chinese ,  cant seal it and when water level slows you can walk it 

Edited August 26, 2020 by Ireland32

[brucegoniners]

Demands? They demand? LOL Uh nice try guys. Not until it's safe.

[CGW]

4 minutes ago, Ireland32 said:

Let’s keep it that Way

Don't you know any of the 27 million that are suffering due to the "agenda"? obviously not! ???? 

If you were queuing up with a begging bowl and were going through the process of having your house and car repossessed I'm sure you would feel different!

[FarFlungFalang]

11 hours ago, daveAustin said:

Fighting on sleazy Sikandvomit?

An absolute classic!Reminds of the "Wine and Dine" at a festival we called it the "Chew and Spew"!

[FarFlungFalang]

52 minutes ago, Ireland32 said:

Too many Lao and Chinese swimming Mekong River they just caught 22 Chinese ,  cant seal it and when water level slows you can walk it 

Yeah I was thinking of running across to Suvanakhet to renew my visa at the Thai Consulate but apparently they're closed.

Edited August 26, 2020 by FarFlungFalang

[belfast3]

18 hours ago, Disparate Dan said:

I can see where OP's coming from but I have no connection to the tourism industry and can therefore say I LIKE Thailand far better without tourists clogging the place up. Last few months have been really pleasant (except of course I can't travel anywhere else either).

Thailand needs tourists like it needs more submarines. Keep the doors shut.

 

Compared to almost anywhere else in the world right now, here is less authoritarian (in terms of virus crackdowns) and more easy-going. Unable to fulfil my usual travel schedule, I can't think of anywhere better to be and tourists would only spoil it (again).

What an extremely selfish attitude. Millions of Thais are out of work because of the lack of tourism, and here you are supporting their suffering because you want to have a 'really pleasant' time.

[Reigntax]

I hope they also quaritine the money i send for the sick buffalo

[paulikens]

JESUS. finally someone in the thai tourism sector is putting the government under pressure, has only taken em 5 months. must have just dawned on em that its high season soon.

[Ireland32]

1 hour ago, Ireland32 said:

Are the hotel owners Epidemiologist,Negative,Bali remaining closed  Why

 

1 hour ago, brucegoniners said:

Demands? They demand? LOL Uh nice try guys. Not until it's safe.

Bruce gets it , Greed over Safety 

[roquefort]

19 hours ago, ripstanley said:

Open up borders and open up Covid cases and deaths.   

More people dies on the roads every day than have died from Covid since this outbreak began. Close the roads?

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[connda]

6 hours ago, DLock said:

Surely it is the COVID19 virus that destroyed your life (and millions of others) and Thai Government has done a pretty good job keeping you and your family safe...and you are not thankful?

Covid-19 didn't lock anything down.  So call 'leaders' (dictators) in government did.
Me personally?  I wished they would have minded their own business.  I don't need a nanny to keep me safe.  Especially a nanny who burns the house down to "keep me safe." 

[Raphael54]

Growing up is not easy.  Thailand has never grown up politically.  And Thailand is neither growing up in terms of Covid-19.  It sticks frantically to being a "safe" closed country. For how much longer can it sustain that?  Are there really only 2 million unemployed in the tourist industry?  Or is it perhaps 4 or 5 million?

 

Eventually there will come the day of reckoning. With or without a vaccin that will be ok or not ok?  The 100 percent guarantees that Thailand seems to be waiting for do not exist.  Come on, grow up, there is a middle path between Thailand and Brazil.

[DaveCW]

8 hours ago, Sharp said:

Or just make the numbers up from any source of accidents !! 

The FT ran a story a couple of months ago where they had done some research into reported C19 deaths throughout Europe. As an example: in a particular day the UK reported 345 deaths, but if measured in the say way as Spain that figure would be 35. However, I'd be interested to know how many folk have died due to cancelled operations, lack of medical attention (due to fear of visiting a hospital. doctor etc) how many folks health has deteriorated due to lack of medical intervention, that they would have received prior to C19. I would bet its far higher than those C19 cases.

[Kadilo]

2 hours ago, Reigntax said:

I hope they also quaritine the money i send for the sick buffalo

Sod the money, quarantine the sick buffalo!

[kg1947]

12 hours ago, vangrop said:

If they want Reopen the country to foreigners: welcome and value them as any businessminded person should do with his customers.

We all know what this means:

-easen visa procedures  -eradicate scams  -safe roads  -correct pricing

-logic anti-corona regulations (ex if yr country issues a certificate, that will do it)  -a helping police force   -clean beaches  -ban pollution

-educated natives against racism (fe. a minister treating alliens as dirty people should be dismissed and sued)  -use a correct exchange rate policy

-this list is not exhaustive...

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So this is not only about simply reopen. Its about a fundamental cahnge of mentality.  Hope brings life

 

Your points are very valid & too logical for the bureaucrazy ( ! ) ......

in Pattaya - soi 7 , 8, 13 , are ghost town after 8 pm -  no more Walking Street

it is now DRIVING STREET and motobike parking lot for employees of Gogo Bars

Be careful you're not run over by them .....

[rumak]

22 hours ago, vangrop said:

If they want Reopen the country to foreigners: welcome and value them as any businessminded person should do with his customers.

We all know what this means:

-easen visa procedures

-eradicate scams

-safe roads

-correct pricing

-logic anti-corona regulations (ex if yr country issues a certificate, that will do it)

-a helping police force

-clean beaches

-ban pollution

-educated natives against racism (fe. a minister treating alliens as dirty people should be dismissed and sued)

-use a correct exchange rate policy

-this list is not exhaustive...

 

So this is not only about simply reopen. Its about a fundamental cahnge of mentality.

Hope brings life

 

Now this , my friends,  is the definition of optimism !!    

  to show my support I will suppress any urge to write a cynical response

  Good luck,  young  man !

 

[Gustomucho]

Thai hotel body should work on a plan to house quarantined people for a reasonable price with the government.  Look at the Philippines, not saying they have the best way to deal with Covid (far from it) but tourist (long time visa holder) get tested, sent to their hotel for 24-48h while they get their test result.  Tourist have to make sure they "can" stay at hotel for 2 weeks if someone in the plane test positive.

 

Thailand should try to cater to long-time visa (90 days+) travelers, they are the one who will not mind staying 14 days in quarantine if they need to...  If they want mass tourism of short stay, that will be spell doom on re-opening the country. 

[joecoolfrog]

On 8/25/2020 at 1:45 PM, ripstanley said:

Open up borders and open up Covid cases and deaths.   

There are many countries , far less reliant on tourism than Thailand , being far more pro active in response to this crisis.

Perhaps you imagine these countries have ill regard for their citizens , or do you think the Thai military leadership has suddenly developed overwhelming empathy in regard to the peasantry ?

Edited August 26, 2020 by joecoolfrog

[joecoolfrog]

1 hour ago, Gustomucho said:

Thai hotel body should work on a plan to house quarantined people for a reasonable price with the government.  Look at the Philippines, not saying they have the best way to deal with Covid (far from it) but tourist (long time visa holder) get tested, sent to their hotel for 24-48h while they get their test result.  Tourist have to make sure they "can" stay at hotel for 2 weeks if someone in the plane test positive.

 

Thailand should try to cater to long-time visa (90 days+) travelers, they are the one who will not mind staying 14 days in quarantine if they need to...  If they want mass tourism of short stay, that will be spell doom on re-opening the country. 

Thailand is in no position to dictate terms to the entire world. Selective ,targeted ,short term quarantine makes sense , as a blunt instrument it is simply economic suicide.

[shdmn]

Lockdowns don't work.  Peru had strict lockdowns early on and they are now #6 for total cases per 1 Mil. 

Edited August 26, 2020 by shdmn

[spidermike007]

Marisa is just being reasonable and sensible. Huge investments are on the line here. Livelihoods are being threatened. Millions of them. 

 

I think what she is saying is DO SOMETHING! Do not do nothing! We need your help. We need your creative juice. We need a lifeline. We need leadership. We depend on you guys. Come on now. Get with it. Step up. Man up. 

 

Caution is one thing. You guys are being timid, cowardly, fearful, afraid of the dark, paranoid and it amounts to sadism. 

[Mark Nothing]

 

I demand, excuse me, respectfully request politicians and tv media to commence telling the truth.

[MRToMRT]

10 hours ago, Kadilo said:

That’s not how I read it. 
 

The “resort” is describing the hotel complex where you have to stay inside for 2 weeks followed by another week where you can wander outside. They would have no control over anyone wandering around the beer bars etc in Udon. 
 

I hope you are right. 

I agree with you, I can't think of anywhere else except central downtown. I could do two weeks inside it, I would be going bananas after the first week but nice rooms and decent food.

 

Only for "returnees" and quarantiners - not for "tourism though ☺️

Edited August 26, 2020 by MRToMRT

[MRToMRT]

I know everybody is throwing rocks at the junta/government BUT Prayut said this today...

 

Thailand needs to attract foreign tourists back and have a welcoming system of disease control in place, so local people can start earning money again, Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha said on Wednesday.

 

Thats quite positive for me.

[CANSIAM]

On 8/25/2020 at 5:45 AM, ripstanley said:

Open up borders and open up Covid cases and deaths.   

They'll be surprised how low the numbers will be........

[CANSIAM]

1 minute ago, MRToMRT said:

I know everybody is throwing rocks at the junta/government BUT Prayut said this today...

 

Thailand needs to attract foreign tourists back and have a welcoming system of disease control in place, so local people can start earning money again, Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha said on Wednesday.

 

Thats quite positive for me.

He's visualizing the BIG picture....

[Meat Pie 47]

On 8/25/2020 at 8:45 PM, ripstanley said:

Open up borders and open up Covid cases and deaths.   

Hahaha I live in WA we had no public infection for 134 days so you tell me I am dangerous get real