National Guard deployed to Wisconsin city as racism protests continue

[simple1]

27 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said:

Portland mayor, today, after over 90 days of continued rioting and violence that’s cost the lives of several people, hundreds of assaults, and massive property damage - also note the galactic ratio on the tweet indicating nobody is buying this <deleted> anymore. 

 

 

Does not support your claim "Dem policy to align with rioters and refuse to quell the riots." it is a difference of opinion, by one particular major, on resources to quell violence and rioting.

Edited August 29, 2020 by simple1

[Mama Noodle]

5 minutes ago, simple1 said:

Does not support your claim "Dem policy to align with rioters and refuse to quell the riots." it is a difference by one particular major of opinion on resources to quell violence and rioting.

So should one honestly view hamstringing your own police force and refusing federal aid after more than NINETY DAYS of riots. 

[simple1]

1 minute ago, Mama Noodle said:

So should one honestly view hamstringing your own police force and refusing federal aid after more than NINETY DAYS of riots. 

Your changing the subject to which I responded - deflection

[Scott]

Off-topic post removed.   The thread has nothing to do with sanctuary cities.  

 

[Mama Noodle]

Just now, simple1 said:

Your changing the subject to which I responded - deflection

I’m asking you how we should view their actions. If, even though we have insurmountable evidence to the contrary, we are supposed to view these decisions as anything other than partisan nonsense and support for rioters, then please tell us why. 
 

I have you one high profile example, you’ve done nothing. 

[simple1]

1 minute ago, Mama Noodle said:

I’m asking you how we should view their actions. If, even though we have insurmountable evidence to the contrary, we are supposed to view these decisions as anything other than partisan nonsense and support for rioters, then please tell us why. 
 

I have you one high profile example, you’ve done nothing. 

More deflection from your post to which I responded - personal honesty from you wouldn't go astray.

[Cryingdick]

6 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said:

So should one honestly view hamstringing your own police force and refusing federal aid after more than NINETY DAYS of riots. 

 

Portland doesn't want people to actually know what's going on there. Kenosha has nothing to really hide. The last thing the Portland Mayor wants now is to be subjected to the watchful eye of the Feds and their ability to investigate.

 

If everything was so transparent they would gladly take help.

[Mama Noodle]

5 minutes ago, simple1 said:

More deflection from your post to which I responded - personal honesty from you wouldn't go astray.

You asked for proof, I gave you proof. You said that’s not proof. If it’s not proof then what is it? 
 

You’re saying I’m “deflecting” ????

[Sujo]

16 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said:

You asked for proof, I gave you proof. You said that’s not proof. If it’s not proof then what is it? 
 

You’re saying I’m “deflecting” ????

Its not proof of what you said, at all.

[Pattaya Spotter]

The national guard - but why, these are peaceful riots right...I mean that's what the "mainstream" media keep telling us. How many cars have to be destroyed and businesses (often minority owned) burned to the ground before a "mostly peaceful" riot turns into wanton destruction? 

 

Edited August 29, 2020 by Pattaya Spotter

[baansgr]

1 hour ago, Mama Noodle said:

He was armed with a knife, had warrants for domestic abuse and sexual assault against the mother of his kids, refused to comply with his arrest, fought the cops on the ground, got tased, escaped and went like he was on a mission to the drivers side floorboard of a car. 

The knife was in the car, so he was unarmed but even so, 7 rounds....I wouldn't dispute that US cops have a very difficult and dangerous job but it seems rather excessive force.

[RoadWarrior371]

1 minute ago, baansgr said:

The knife was in the car, so he was unarmed but even so, 7 rounds....I wouldn't dispute that US cops have a very difficult and dangerous job but it seems rather excessive force.

You resist arrest violently, there is a chance that you die.  That is on you.  Black and White same same.  Why is this hard to comprende'.  Geez

[Pattaya Spotter]

2 minutes ago, baansgr said:

The knife was in the car, so he was unarmed but even so, 7 rounds....I wouldn't dispute that US cops have a very difficult and dangerous job but it seems rather excessive force.

Anyone trained in firearms will tell you that once you've reached the point of firing your gun, you fire until all the rounds have been expended and then reload and ases the situation.

[Pattaya Spotter]

3 minutes ago, RoadWarrior371 said:

You resist arrest violently, there is a chance that you die.  That is on you.  Black and White same same.  Why is this hard to comprende'.  Geez

Agree...the time to contest your arrest is at the police station or in court, not on the street with armed LEOs empowered to use lethal force. 

[Tug]

7 minutes ago, RoadWarrior371 said:

You resist arrest violently, there is a chance that you die.  That is on you.  Black and White same same.  Why is this hard to comprende'.  Geez

4 cops couldn’t control one skinny black dude so they maim the guy in front of his kids that’s way excessive now if he got his ass kicked and spent 2 weeks in the can that’s appropriate naaa this screw up is on the coppers 

[Mama Noodle]

34 minutes ago, baansgr said:

The knife was in the car, so he was unarmed

 

Source for him being unarmed please. 

[Scott]

Off-topic posts removed. 

 

[Sujo]

17 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said:

 

Source for him being unarmed please. 

Police said they found a knife in the car.

[Logosone]

It's very difficult for cops, of course that was how Christopher Bernard Wilder was shot, he was approached by police, went back to his car reached in for his gun and a struggle ensued where he shot a policeman and then himself accidentally. So obviously police want to avoid a suspect grabbing a weapon from the car as it has ended with police being shot many times, riclag also posted a good video on this earlier.

 

Nevertheless, in hindsight, with the calm video analysis at home, yes, you say police overreacted and should have done it differently. If you were in that situation and had a gun however odds are you would use it too.

 

What is tragic is that Blake apparently was calming a fight between two females one of whom called police. There was no need to act for him the way he did, unless he was concerned about something he did.

[baansgr]

1 hour ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

Anyone trained in firearms will tell you that once you've reached the point of firing your gun, you fire until all the rounds have been expended and then reload and ases the situation.

That just isn't true in any armed law enforcement or military unit. Considering most auto sidearms carried in today's forces have mags of 16 or more rounds, If that was the case, he would have discharged far more than 7.

[Pattaya Spotter]

4 hours ago, baansgr said:

That just isn't true in any armed law enforcement or military unit. Considering most auto sidearms carried in today's forces have mags of 16 or more rounds, If that was the case, he would have discharged far more than 7.

Only if magazine extenders are used, which isn't the case with law enforcement agencies. They use standard magazines of 7-10 rounds.

[Bluespunk]

Constantly amazed at those who can’t tell the difference between protesting and rioting. 

https://www.king5.com/amp/article/news/local/protesters-stage-sit-in-at-portland-mayor-wheelers-apartment-complex/283-ea5af842-b188-4282-bba9-c9879de569e2

 

https://www.opb.org/news/article/portland-protesters-attempted-occupied-area-mayor-home/?outputType=amp

[bannork]

On 8/28/2020 at 5:24 PM, Foghorn said:

Some people are just so simple 

Mr and Mrs Rittenhouse.

 

[herfiehandbag]

On 8/28/2020 at 12:58 PM, RichardColeman said:

Nothing speaks racial black equality more than a good riot, looting and arson  !

Except perhaps shooting the poor <deleted> in the back seven times - only to find apparently he had a knife - on the floor of his car.

 

Yes he may have had a criminal past, as did that Floyd chap, and no doubt several others, but that does not excuse their summary executions.

 

These summary executions, essentially because they are black, are what leads to " riot, looting and arson"

[impulse]

18 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said:

Except perhaps shooting the poor <deleted> in the back seven times - only to find apparently he had a knife - on the floor of his car.

 

Yes he may have had a criminal past, as did that Floyd chap, and no doubt several others, but that does not excuse their summary executions.

 

These summary executions, essentially because they are black, are what leads to " riot, looting and arson"

 

And what do you figure their options were if he had jumped into his 3000 pound weapon, fired it up, and started running people over with it?

 

They already wrestled with the guy and tased him.  Twice, according to reports.  There's still some question what he was holding in his hand- knife, sunglasses, etc.  So another wrestling match would have represented a significant danger to any cops that chose to engage in one.

 

Seems like the only 2 options available were to shoot him, or let him start 'er up and do whatever he chose to do with 3,000 pounds of steel.

 

Edited August 29, 2020 by impulse

[Scott]

Off-topic posts and replies removed.  The topic isn't about Portland. 

[RoadWarrior371]

3 hours ago, herfiehandbag said:

These summary executions, essentially because they are black, are what leads to " riot, looting and arson"

Equal number or more white people were killed by Police last year.  There were no WLM riots.  But please, keep stirring the pot, why waste a good killing during an election year when the socialist Dems are on the ropes..... ????

[torturedsole]

6 hours ago, bannork said:

Mr and Mrs Rittenhouse.

Not sure what the photos of Kyle Rittenhouse's parents adds to the story. I suspect you consider the photos you've posted to be so unflattering that they add evidence and truth to your belief that Kyle's parents are irresponsible and criminally assisted him in arriving in Kenosha.  

[Mama Noodle]

Kenosha burned, people died, politicians lied, Blake raised over 2 million dollars, murals were painted, professional sports were called off, the list is endless - and it was all for a rapist and domestic abuser.

 

The "breaking up a fight" narrative? Hogwash. "Cops didn't know who he was" Narrative? Dog poo. It was all nonsense. 

 

He put at least one cop in a headlock and was tased at least twice. 

 

The house he was at supposedly "Break up a fight"? It was a woman who put a restraining order out on him for sexual assault.

 

This is why Jacob Blake had a warrant out for his arrest

 

Quote

The cops involved in the shooting of Jacob Blake — which touched off a fresh wave of angry, anti-police sentiment across the country — were attempting to arrest him for violating a restraining order stemming from an alleged sexual assault, The Post has learned.

 

Blake, 29, was forbidden from going to the Kenosha home of his alleged victim from the May 3 incident, and police were dispatched Sunday following a 911 call saying he was there.

 

The responding officers were aware he had an open warrant for felony sexual assault, according to dispatch records and the Kenosha Professional Police Association, which released a statement on the incident on Friday.

 

Continued:

 

https://nypost.com/2020/08/28/this-is-why-jacob-blake-had-a-warrant-out-for-his-arrest/

[EVENKEEL]

Don't understand the "why" Blake was there is such a secret. The why is what a story should start with.