PM: Rumours of a coup are utter nonsense

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2 hours ago, micmichd said:

You know why he became the PM of Thailand :

Yingluck's rice scheme was about to fail. It might have been set up with good intention, but it was not realistic. The hard-core capitalistic way (build up a new infrastructure) worked better. That's why many Thais have cars now. 

And of course it's nationalistic. The Thai PM is not the ruler of the world. 

 

 

"...It might have been set up with good intention. ..."

 

Sure, the absolute specific intention to bring big money to the shin clan and a few cronies (2 of whom are serving jail sentences of several decades), and this item all planned and executed/controlled by big sister in CM.

 

 

[Hanuman2547]

21 hours ago, webfact said:

Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha yesterday (September 8 ) scotched rumours of a coup d’etat, telling the press they were pure nonsense.

That's usually what they say...……...right before a coup d'etat happens!

[rott]

1 hour ago, micmichd said:

As an ex-worker I wouldn't give a damn if a dictatorship of the working class would be established in Thailand. 

Better than the establishment of a European leisure class of scroungers. 

No-one has suggested any such thing. And who exactly would they be scrounging off.? So the voices in your head are Karl Marx and Derek Hatton? 

[outsider]

21 hours ago, darksidedog said:

That is a shame. Be tragically ironic if someone stole power, in exactly the way he did to take it himself in the first place.

 

Exactly. I'd love to see his face when the boot is on the other foot, and up him where daylight doesn't shine.

[wazzupnow]

ok lets think,

where do i go submarine ? or bunker?

 

[herfiehandbag]

12 minutes ago, wazzupnow said:

ok lets think,

where do i go submarine ? or bunker?

 

Easy one - submarines will take you away.

 

"Leaders" going into bunkers does not have a good record...

[chainarong]

Well you're over due for one Prayut, 6 years is up. ????????

[micmichd]

8 hours ago, PatOngo said:

Has the current dict authoritarian rule improved production?

In infrastructure: yes. 

In medicine : yes. 

In education : yet to see. 

Edited September 10, 2020 by micmichd

[PatOngo]

7 minutes ago, micmichd said:

In infrastructure: yes. 

In medicine : yes. 

In education : yet to see. 

In road safety?

In assistance to the poor?

In gun control?

[micmichd]

9 minutes ago, PatOngo said:

In road safety?

In assistance to the poor?

In gun control?

You can't have everything at the same time. 

Assistance to the poor is certainly an issue. But if they create jobs for the poor from Issan in the EEC you'll slightly see that the poor get a little richer. In the area where I live that works. 

[PatOngo]

9 hours ago, micmichd said:

You can't have everything at the same time. 

Assistance to the poor is certainly an issue. But if they create jobs for the poor from Issan in the EEC you'll slightly see that the poor get a little richer. In the area where I live that works. 

What I see is the rich get a lot richer!

[micmichd]

7 hours ago, PatOngo said:

What I see is the rich get a lot richer!

Yes, sure. I wouldn't worry too much as long as they invest in creating modern jobs. Where modern jobs today are more expensive to create than ever before. 

BTW even the rich have to rely on loyal workers, and they know that. 

[TERMINATOR3AB]

Loyal  Thai  workers  I  doubt that  they  dont care about Thai workers or  loyalty  they rely on numbers  and plenty  to choose from

They just  import  workers  from other  close by countries  that can  hop the  borders ...feel  so sorry  for the real Thai  people  in the  majority that are  poor 

Good  Luck Thailand  

[elgenon]

The General is doing a fine job. Tourism will save the economy in October, or January, or June, or in 2024.

 

Remember though, we have always been told tourism is only a small share of the economy. So it's up to the Thais to save themselves. And with such a dynamic leader they will. Only the alcohol companies have a reason to overthrow him. 

[Moo 2]

Dear PM, If you want a "coup" have it now while the country is empty of tourists. It's never pleasant

to have a "coup" at tis time of the year as everyone wear a mask.

 

   "Soldiers, never interrupt an enemy who is about to make a mistake"    Napoleon

[honcho]

he lies like a flat fish, so if he says no coupe expect the opposite!

[DouglasTsui]

Tanks, Apcs, what's the bloody difference. Having them. Around silences the majority and if the masses gets out of hand, well then the plot. Thickens with bullets spraying for sure. 

 

[black tabby]

If his senseless border blockade goes  on, he would certainly  help increase political support for his political enemy.

10 millions of the new jobless without any income & living allowance, will certainly not support P's regime.

Just like creating own political time bomb.

[herfiehandbag]

8 minutes ago, black tabby said:

If his senseless border blockade goes  on, he would certainly  help increase political support for his political enemy.

10 millions of the new jobless without any income & living allowance, will certainly not support P's regime.

Just like creating own political time bomb.

I doubt that popular support features anywhere in the "coup making" process here. It is entirely a game for assorted senior figures in the military, and their shadowy backers (sponsors) from amongst the very, very rich, whose :influence: is held in numbered offshore bank accounts. The views of the masses are simply regarded, if at all, as irrelevant.

 

This of course may one day prove to be a major miscalculation.

[daveAustin]

On 9/9/2020 at 6:45 AM, darksidedog said:

That is a shame. Be tragically ironic if someone stole power, in exactly the way he did to take it himself in the first place.

Justice eh, but don't work like that with these types, bruh. Would dearly love to see him and his twot entourage removed, preferably embarrassingly so by that man Thanatorn, but only way to get him is from higher up or inside out by same same. Million Thais on streets won't do it.

[micmichd]

2 hours ago, daveAustin said:

Justice eh, but don't work like that with these types, bruh. Would dearly love to see him and his twot entourage removed, preferably embarrassingly so by that man Thanatorn, but only way to get him is from higher up or inside out by same same. Million Thais on streets won't do it.

Prayuth is a man from the Issan. I would not like to see him replaced. 

[polpott]

35 minutes ago, micmichd said:

Prayuth is a man from the Issan. I would not like to see him replaced. 

Issan or not Prayuth is Thai Chin. Thai Chin trumps Issan.

[micmichd]

12 minutes ago, polpott said:

Issan or not Prayuth is Thai Chin. Thai Chin trumps Issan.

If you ever been to Bangkok and talk to the people, you'd find out who actually does the work in Bangkok. Surprise : not the "Thai Chin" And guess Prayuth knows this very well.

Once again : Prayuth is a grassroot Issani. Yes, he's also a man who knows who got the money in Thailand. It was a good idea to take that money to build up the EEC in Greater Chonburi and create new jobs here. 

Edited September 13, 2020 by micmichd

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On 9/11/2020 at 5:34 AM, PatOngo said:

What I see is the rich get a lot richer!

True, because although some of the poor gain higher incomes there's basically no attention to reducing the gross, unethical, immoral and frightening gap. 

[micmichd]

13 hours ago, scorecard said:

True, because although some of the poor gain higher incomes there's basically no attention to reducing the gross, unethical, immoral and frightening gap. 

There's no gap in the West? 

Guess there is. 

 

The current Thai government is at least creating jobs - here in Chonburi. And yes, a new middle-class is emerging - also here in Chonburi, for Issan folks who don't have to work in rice fields anymore. 

So, no coup really needed. 

[scorecard]

18 minutes ago, micmichd said:

There's no gap in the West? 

Guess there is. 

 

The current Thai government is at least creating jobs - here in Chonburi. And yes, a new middle-class is emerging - also here in Chonburi, for Issan folks who don't have to work in rice fields anymore. 

So, no coup really needed. 

Sorry but I think it's a lot more complicated that you suggest.

[micmichd]

24 minutes ago, scorecard said:

Sorry but I think it's a lot more complicated that you suggest.

You mean what Norwegian peace researcher Johan Galtung called "Structural violence"? 

Yes, that’s more complex. But here is not the place to start a lecture in structuralism that would only shock you. 

[scorecard]

2 hours ago, micmichd said:

You mean what Norwegian peace researcher Johan Galtung called "Structural violence"? 

Yes, that’s more complex. But here is not the place to start a lecture in structuralism that would only shock you. 

Actually I am aware of "structural Violence", the subject was mentioned briefly in the submission of a PH.D. candidate when I was on the doctoral studies dissertation committee at a Singapore university where I was a visiting professor. So I did some further reading to well understand the term.

 

I would agree that the worst possible such scenarios are shocking, even deeply disturbing & frightening.

 

In the early days of my 30+ years in Thailand I became well aware of the income gap and the gap in justice and opportunity in the LOS, especially (but not exclusively) in the Nth. East. Further, my dear departed Thai wife was a doctor of medicine. She completed the last 2 years of high school, her initial medical degree and her medical specialization in Australia (all of that on grants and scholarships - she came from poverty) and fell in love with the Australian egalitarian attitudes and values.

 

This all well worked for me, I was born in Australia and both of my parents were active in strengthening the egalitarian attitudes and values; in those days the term they used was 'equal society'. Bottom line is that I believe in what I call capitalism and selected socialism (but I'm not wanting to start any discussion on this point). Back in Thailand my wife organized/conducted clinics for the poorest Thai folks, in the Nth East., and also in Bkk.

 

I worked alongside her to give her whatever support I could, which often included emotional support. In those days I couldn't speak much Thai and even less of the Nth. East dialect. A number of times she told about disturbing situations she had come across, including whole villages which were deliberately pinned down in poverty, no justice etc., by ruthless scaly politicians, police and more and incidents where there had been deliberate shocking violence and death to warn the villagers to keep 'their place in society'. And a couple of times 'third parties' had told my wife to not be vocal.  

 

I would agree that the situation has improved for some folks in the LOS but I would also be quick to add that IMHO the gaps for many Thais are still deep.  

 

I say '...gaps are still deep...' because at heart I'm a socialist and I'm hoping that the gaps will reduce much more. And of course there are many examples across the world where the gap is much smaller.

[internationalism]

one of the leading royalists call for a bloody military coup, and as many killed as possible, as in 1976, when hundreds of students were murdered by police, army and royalist paramilitary.

 

"“There is a need to be cruel about it like what happened on October 6, 1976, which made the leftist movement in disarray for 30 years, that is need for that again this time,” he said.

“First we must completely destroy the trash and give back the power to the institution. Thailand has to be rule by constitutional monarchy not absolute monarchy and there is no need for a democracy.”

https://www.thaienquirer.com/26931/ultra-royalist-academic-sparks-backlash-after-calling-for-further-coup/

 

as such there is a running campaign to NIDA, where he is an associate professor, to examine his political stance as inciting violence and hate speech. Since yesterday so far signed by 12k petitioners 

https://www.change.org/p/สถาบันบัณฑิตพัฒนบริหารศาสตร์-nida-เรียกร้องให้นิด้าสอบจริยธรรม-ผศ-ดร-อานนท์-ศักดิ์วรวิชญ์

Edited April 28, 2021 by internationalism