Pattaya Smart City enters the digital era with electric "baht buses"

[3NUMBAS]

still the same variable prices ? pay up or you get a kicking from the driver ?

[mikebell]

'transport, traffic and helping the environment.'

 

I snorted coffee down the nostrils again.  He hasn't got it yet.  Pattaya Transport is in the middle of something similar to the Bermuda Triangle.  There is a peculiar electric force field that prevents all meters on taxis from working; all Pattaya traffic officers from working; the only exception to the non-working ideal are the fly-tippers assisting in the deterioration of the environment.

[bluesofa]

33 minutes ago, mikebell said:

'transport, traffic and helping the environment.'

 

I snorted coffee down the nostrils again.  He hasn't got it yet.  Pattaya Transport is in the middle of something similar to the Bermuda Triangle.  There is a peculiar electric force field that prevents all meters on taxis from working; all Pattaya traffic officers from working; the only exception to the non-working ideal are the fly-tippers assisting in the deterioration of the environment.

'Bermuda Triangle' Isn't that quite a thin strip? I knew a girl with one.

[Lemonltr]

17 hours ago, balo said:

I will pay 20 baht for an electric ride. If they charge more, forget it. 

Thais won't pay 20 baht. 

[Burma Bill]

On 9/10/2020 at 11:27 AM, ianezy0 said:

But how will they charge these electric baht buses. No suitable plugs at home.

maybe we will be seeing many wires  from power  poles into the vehicles!

[Burma Bill]

On 9/10/2020 at 11:27 AM, ianezy0 said:

But how will they charge these electric baht buses. No suitable plugs at home.

maybe we will be seeing many wires  from power  poles into the vehicles!

[redwood1]

On 9/10/2020 at 11:30 AM, Jingthing said:

Good.

Bad....

[redwood1]

You can not run a vehicle 24/7 with electric...........The baht bus drivers are poor they will not invest 1 baht into electric.......

The baht buses work perfect no need to change anything.....

[Leaver]

26 minutes ago, redwood1 said:

You can not run a vehicle 24/7 with electric...........The baht bus drivers are poor they will not invest 1 baht into electric.......

The baht buses work perfect no need to change anything.....

Those in power can outlaw gasoline baht buses. 

 

The wealthy Thai elite can then buy electric baht buses with no competition from cheaper gasoline baht buses.  People may have to wait longer for a ride than in the past, so service delivery is down.

 

The price to ride will then be raised to 20 baht, or more, to ride.  

 

Somchai, with his traditional baht bus, goes broke.  

 

Just more of those in power looking after their own interests, or their friends or family, with everyone else suffering, on way or another.  

[kingofthemountain]

If i am not wrong the bathbus drivers in Pattaya

don't own the vehicle, they just rent it to the structure owning the fleet

that's why they are all the same type of vehicles, with just the number

printed  on the door being different.

 

They could easily get ride of the oldest ones (The vehicle, not the driver lol)

and replace them by electrics 

Anyway even in normal time, there are far too much of them on the road

 

However i don't know if the structure is a public one, linked to the city hall

or a private corporation. Maybe someone has the answer?

[redwood1]

15 minutes ago, kingofthemountain said:

If i am not wrong the bathbus drivers in Pattaya

don't own the vehicle, they just rent it to the structure owning the fleet

that's why they are all the same type of vehicles, with just the number

printed  on the door being different.

 

They could easily get ride of the oldest ones (The vehicle, not the driver lol)

and replace them by electrics 

Anyway even in normal time, there are far too much of them on the road

 

However i don't know if the structure is a public one, linked to the city hall

or a private corporation. Maybe someone has the answer?

I believe the baht bus collective is 100% private......Some of the baht buses are owned by the driver some baht buses the drivers rent daily......

They operate like taxis Day shift 12 hours Night shift 12 hours.....

Electric would not add one shred of value to anyone except to those selling the electric baht buses.......Everyone else would pay and pay and pay.....

[DrTuner]

Since Toyota is supplying those, why not offer a conversion kit for the existing ones. Make them hybrids.

[impulse]

On 9/10/2020 at 4:30 AM, Cake Monster said:

Great Idea !

Its time to get rid of the present Baht Bus Mafia, and for the City Hall to buy / Lease all the new Electric Vehicles  and then for them to rent them out.

 

Rent them out to the new Baht Bus Mafia?

 

[Leaver]

4 hours ago, impulse said:

 

Rent them out to the new Baht Bus Mafia?

 

Army mafia squeezing out the old police mafia.  

[a977]

On 9/10/2020 at 12:29 PM, spidermike007 said:

It should all be city sponsored. They cannot expect the songtaew owners to invest, nor maintain. And this is NOT about the digital age. This is about the year 2020. Let's get with it guys. Thailand is way behind the electric/hybrid curve, to the point of being embarrassing. If the officials only had any pride. 

If the officials only had half a brain they would have introduced an  electric tram system years ago. You go down Soi Bukhaow now when no one around and the only thing holding up the traffic is the songtaew driver crawling along beeping his horn

[jacko45k]

11 hours ago, DrTuner said:

Since Toyota is supplying those, why not offer a conversion kit for the existing ones. Make them hybrids.

How much space would the batteries need?

[Henryford]

"ratified in November" which year? Another pie in the sky proposal.

[scammed]

im generally against subsidizing, but these baht buses

does send a long plume of diesel sot a long way,

best of luck

[thaibeachlovers]

On 9/10/2020 at 4:17 PM, webfact said:

Mayor Sontaya Khunpluem said this was all part of his digital vision for Pattaya as a "Smart City" modernizing things like transport, traffic and helping the environment. 

 

Nothing said about charging points or disposal of worn out batteries then?

 

Years and years ago some bright spark came up with electric tuk tuks. Today there are how many electric tuk tuks in Thailand?

 

 

[thaibeachlovers]

53 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

How much space would the batteries need?

The batteries could fit under the seats- no problem.

[thaibeachlovers]

20 hours ago, Lemonltr said:

Thais won't pay 20 baht. 

They do in Chiang Mai.

[thaibeachlovers]

13 hours ago, redwood1 said:

You can not run a vehicle 24/7 with electric...........The baht bus drivers are poor they will not invest 1 baht into electric.......

The baht buses work perfect no need to change anything.....

There's too many of them. I'd change the numbers to about 50% of current numbers ( pre corona ).

[thaibeachlovers]

12 hours ago, kingofthemountain said:

If i am not wrong the bathbus drivers in Pattaya

don't own the vehicle, they just rent it to the structure owning the fleet

that's why they are all the same type of vehicles, with just the number

printed  on the door being different.

 

They could easily get ride of the oldest ones (The vehicle, not the driver lol)

and replace them by electrics 

Anyway even in normal time, there are far too much of them on the road

 

However i don't know if the structure is a public one, linked to the city hall

or a private corporation. Maybe someone has the answer?

There is certainly a link to City Hall 55555555555555555555

[thaibeachlovers]

On 9/10/2020 at 7:41 PM, Catoni said:

I can’t see the songthaew drivers switching to electric songthaews any time soon.  They’ll need city wide quick charging stations. 
   Nothing wrong with the regular songthaews.. like the Isuzu ones. 
(I’ve never called them “baht busses” like some foreigners do. Even after my first four months in Thailand, I only heard them called “songthaews” so that’s what I called them. The first I heard them called “baht busses” was here on Thai Visa... and at first I was wondering what the heck is a “baht bus” and how come I’ve never seen one? LOL ????)

555555555555555555555

Baht buses refers to songtheaws in PATTAYA.

 

Edited September 12, 2020 by thaibeachlovers

[thaibeachlovers]

On 9/10/2020 at 7:55 PM, Oldie said:

It is a great idea to change them to electric vehicles. But in the end ideas mean nothing and Pattaya had very many of them already. Many never materialized. Perhaps they could start with fixing many sidewalks and traffic lights for pedestrians. Just an idea... 

Perhaps even removing all the signs from the sidewalks on Buakhao so pedestrians could walk on them. Didn't they turn the pedestrian crossing lights off because no one stopped for them?

[mikebell]

22 hours ago, bluesofa said:

'Bermuda Triangle' Isn't that quite a thin strip? I knew a girl with one.

She wasn't Thai then.  It's why razor blades are so expensive here.

[bluesofa]

1 hour ago, mikebell said:

23 hours ago, bluesofa said:

'Bermuda Triangle' Isn't that quite a thin strip? I knew a girl with one.

She wasn't Thai then.  It's why razor blades are so expensive here.

A thin strip of plaster (or duct tape) to cover the area to be preserved. Depilatory cream over the remainder.

[jacko45k]

1 hour ago, bluesofa said:

A thin strip of plaster (or duct tape) to cover the area to be preserved. Depilatory cream over the remainder.

Clam strip?

[DrTuner]

7 hours ago, jacko45k said:

How much space would the batteries need?

Dunno. They fit in the Camry hybrids. I suppose that could be adapted. Pickups have plenty of space.

[kingofthemountain]

7 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Perhaps even removing all the signs from the sidewalks on Buakhao so pedestrians could walk on them. Didn't they turn the pedestrian crossing lights off because no one stopped for them?

The problem is there is no sidewalk at all in the most part of soi Bukkaho

if they want create one all along  they need to turn the street in a one way

traffic, should be possible but the sidewalk will be immediatly invaded and

occupied by the usual suspects, foodcarts, motorbike rental, signs and so on