webfact Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 Thai conscript dies after just two weeks in military service “An end to conscription” hashtag has become a hot trend on Twitter today, with more than 56,000 tweets, after a Facebook post about the death of a young man only ten days after he entered military service. The Facebook post reads “Our family has received the word “sorry” for the lifeless body of a younger brother, plus 20,000 baht for initial funeral costs. Is that the price of a family’s loss? The family is suspicious of the true cause of the death. Our brother walked into a camp, but came out in a coffin.” According to the post, the victim, identified as 21-year old Seri Bootwong, was enlisted into military service and reported to a military camp on September 1st. On September 14th, an army general notified the family that the new conscript died at about 1.45am of a blood clot, preventing blood flow to the brain. Full story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/thai-conscript-dies-after-just-two-weeks-in-military-service/ -- © Copyright Thai PBS 2020-09-15 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ChipButty Posted September 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 15, 2020 Sorry to hear that RIP young man I only hope there was no foul play connected to his death can be brutal in the army on basic training 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RotBenz8888 Posted September 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 15, 2020 "He said that doctors at Bhumibol Hospital had diagnosed the conscript’s cause of death as being an irregular heartbeat and not due to any physical attack, adding that the victim’s father, Somsong, does not doubt doctors’ diagnosis." How do you detect irregular heartbeats on a dead person? Any pathologists on TV? 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ChipButty Posted September 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 15, 2020 Just now, RotBenz8888 said: "He said that doctors at Bhumibol Hospital had diagnosed the conscript’s cause of death as being an irregular heartbeat and not due to any physical attack, adding that the victim’s father, Somsong, does not doubt doctors’ diagnosis." How do you detect irregular heartbeats on a dead person? Any pathologists on TV? Loads just wait 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 2 is 1 Posted September 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 15, 2020 So he have to be sick already if that is truth what they say! How you let ill person in army at all! They not examine bouy's first!? 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Hayduke Posted September 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 15, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, webfact said: Thai conscript dies after just two weeks in military service RIP young man…your self-respect and your honor are intact. You were only trying to do what your country asked you of you…and they have cruelly, grievously, and disgracefully betrayed both you and your family. Edited September 15, 2020 by Hayduke 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted September 15, 2020 Author Share Posted September 15, 2020 Young conscript found dead 10 days into military service By The Nation Thai netizens on Tuesday demanded an end to military conscription after a Facebook post announced the death of another young conscript in mysterious circumstances. Seree Butwong, 21, was found dead at his base on Monday, just 10 days after entering military service, said the post, which was apparently written by the victim’s family. It went on to say: “Our family has received the word “sorry” for the lifeless body of a younger brother, plus Bt20,000 for initial funeral costs. Is that the price of a family’s loss? The family is suspicious of the true cause of the death. Our brother walked into a camp, but came out in a coffin.” On Monday, an Army general notified the family that the victim died of a blood clot, preventing blood flow to the brain, at about at 1.45am on Monday morning. On Tuesday, the hashtag “end conscription” began trending on Twitter along with pictures of Seree. Thai PBS reports that the Army has returned Seree’s body to his hometown in the Northeast province of Surin. Army spokesman Maj-General Thirapong Patthamasing na Ayudhya told media on Tuesday that doctors at Bhumibol Hospital had diagnosed the conscript’s cause of death as an irregular heartbeat and not due to any physical attack. He added that the victim’s father, Somsong, had accepted the doctors’ findings. The Army has offered to pay funeral costs and Bt200,000 in compensation to Seree’s family. Several conscripts have died in mysterious circumstances at military bases in recent years. Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30394578 -- © Copyright The Nation Thailand 2020-09-15 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AhFarangJa Posted September 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 16, 2020 Not the first, and definitely will not be the last. When is this Country going to wake up and end these archaic practices. IF he had an irregular heartbeat that should have been picked up at the medical surely. However, the medical is probably just breath in, breath out, and cough. R.I.P. Young Man and condolences to the Family. 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post yellowboat Posted September 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 16, 2020 It is a great humiliation to have anyone die under your command during peacetime. Hope the family can afford an independent autopsy. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post soalbundy Posted September 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 16, 2020 16 hours ago, RotBenz8888 said: "He said that doctors at Bhumibol Hospital had diagnosed the conscript’s cause of death as being an irregular heartbeat and not due to any physical attack, adding that the victim’s father, Somsong, does not doubt doctors’ diagnosis." How do you detect irregular heartbeats on a dead person? Any pathologists on TV? Maybe the whole thing was just so irregular it was the first thing that came to mind. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4reaL Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 15 hours ago, webfact said: Young conscript found dead 10 days into military service By The Nation Thai netizens on Tuesday demanded an end to military conscription after a Facebook post announced the death of another young conscript in mysterious circumstances. Seree Butwong, 21, was found dead at his base on Monday, just 10 days after entering military service, said the post, which was apparently written by the victim’s family. It went on to say: “Our family has received the word “sorry” for the lifeless body of a younger brother, plus Bt20,000 for initial funeral costs. Is that the price of a family’s loss? The family is suspicious of the true cause of the death. Our brother walked into a camp, but came out in a coffin.” On Monday, an Army general notified the family that the victim died of a blood clot, preventing blood flow to the brain, at about at 1.45am on Monday morning. On Tuesday, the hashtag “end conscription” began trending on Twitter along with pictures of Seree. Thai PBS reports that the Army has returned Seree’s body to his hometown in the Northeast province of Surin. Army spokesman Maj-General Thirapong Patthamasing na Ayudhya told media on Tuesday that doctors at Bhumibol Hospital had diagnosed the conscript’s cause of death as an irregular heartbeat and not due to any physical attack. He added that the victim’s father, Somsong, had accepted the doctors’ findings. The Army has offered to pay funeral costs and Bt200,000 in compensation to Seree’s family. Several conscripts have died in mysterious circumstances at military bases in recent years. Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30394578 -- © Copyright The Nation Thailand 2020-09-15 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 10 days in and has a row of salad bar already? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herfiehandbag Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 16 hours ago, ChipButty said: Sorry to hear that RIP young man I only hope there was no foul play connected to his death can be brutal in the army on basic training Basic training should be hard, physically and mentally demanding and exhausting. Its aim should be to produce a soldier who can face the physical and mental stress and demands of the battlefield. It doesn't need to be brutal. The instructors can be brutal. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geriatrickid Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 There are some inconsistencies; 1. First Story states; an army general notified the family that the new conscript died at about 1.45am of a blood clot, preventing blood flow to the brain 2. Second story states: doctors at Bhumibol Hospital had diagnosed the conscript’s cause of death as being an irregular heartbeat and not due to any physical attack Story 1 indicates a fatal ischemic stroke. It is most unusual for a 21 year old in good health to die in this manner. Usually it occurs as a result of; - Physical injury, e.g. head trauma - Drug abuse - Genetic predisposition and other unknown causes - infections - Inflammatory disease If the deceased was not physically injured and there are no indications other family members experiencing sudden death in this manner, then one would wonder about Covid19. We know that the infection is an inflammatory illness and can give rise to blood clots in the infected, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moe666 Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 1 hour ago, AhFarangJa said: Not the first, and definitely will not be the last. When is this Country going to wake up and end these archaic practices. IF he had an irregular heartbeat that should have been picked up at the medical surely. However, the medical is probably just breath in, breath out, and cough. R.I.P. Young Man and condolences to the Family. That is not true. A person can have a irregular heart beat and the Dr. can miss it using a stethiscope. A friend was found to have a problem after years of physicals and also cardiograms. He went in for a bowel issue while recieving a finger wave the Dr. says cannot do a thing for you until you get your heart problem repaired. The Dr. detected the irregular heart beat thru the bowel pulse. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBKK Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 1 hour ago, yellowboat said: It is a great humiliation to have anyone die under your command during peacetime. Hope the family can afford an independent autopsy. 'humiliation'? Jeeze 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipButty Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 1 hour ago, herfiehandbag said: Basic training should be hard, physically and mentally demanding and exhausting. Its aim should be to produce a soldier who can face the physical and mental stress and demands of the battlefield. It doesn't need to be brutal. The instructors can be brutal. Im well aware of that I was born in the army and my old man was a RSM only one word to describe him but I cant print it here 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Orton Rd Posted September 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 16, 2020 Conscription is military slavery, needs to be a mass refusal to serve their feudal overlords 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipButty Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, Orton Rd said: Conscription is military slavery, needs to be a mass refusal to serve their feudal overlords Imagine that? mass refusal fun and games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardColeman Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 Maybe they should make drunk driving and street racing and gang fighting all conscriptable and do away with the 'ball bag' ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAMHERE Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 12 hours ago, soalbundy said: Maybe the whole thing was just so irregular it was the first thing that came to mind. I was under the impression that this is regular. These kinds of deaths are all too often. More dead conscripts from 'irregular heartbeat' than defending the borders of Thailand, seems to me. I don't doubt he died from a blood clot obtained from a clout to the head. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Grumpy John Posted September 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 16, 2020 12 hours ago, herfiehandbag said: physical and mental stress and demands of the battlefield Well there's the problem! No battles are in Thailand future as long as they have a white flag on hand. The military truly are a huge unnecessary expense for the taxpayers to bare. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 12 hours ago, 4reaL said: 10 days in and has a row of salad bar already? Do you feel better now for such an insightful observation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumbastheycome Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 It seems be forgot to most. Condolences to the family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthainess Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 On 9/16/2020 at 7:36 AM, 4reaL said: 10 days in and has a row of salad bar already? Yeh it looks like its been photoshoped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthainess Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 On 9/15/2020 at 3:41 PM, Hayduke said: You were only trying to do what your country asked you of you… No he was doing what his country Ordered him to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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