EU-bound trucks from UK could face two-day delays after Brexit, Britain says

[snoop1130]

EU-bound trucks from UK could face two-day delays after Brexit, Britain says

 

FILE PHOTO: Freight trucks queue to enter the terminal at the Port of Dover, Britain October 11, 2019 REUTERS/Simon Dawson

 

LONDON (Reuters) - British trucks could face delays of up to two days to enter Europe and queues of around 7,000 lorries after Britain leaves the bloc at the end of this year, disrupting imports and exports of crucial goods, the government has warned.

 

Michael Gove, the minister overseeing the Brexit talks, told the logistics and freight industry that truck drivers would face new customs controls and processes irrespective of whether a trade deal can be agreed between the two sides.

 

He said under the government's reasonable worst case scenario, up to 70% of trucks travelling to the EU might not be ready for new border controls.

 

"This could lead to maximum queues of around 7,000 port bound trucks in Kent (in England) and associated maximum delays of up to two days," he said.

 

Britain formally left the bloc in January but remains in a status quo transition period that will expire at the end of this year. The government assumes EU member states will impose third country controls on Britain at the end of the transition period.

 

"Irrespective of the outcome of negotiations between the UK and EU, traders will face new customs controls and processes," he said. "Simply put, if traders, both in the UK and EU, have not completed the right paperwork, their goods will be stopped when entering the EU and disruption will occur."

 

Dover, in the southeast of England, has been Britain's most important gateway to Europe since Roman times and the port now handles 17 percent of the United Kingdom's goods trade. Up to 10,000 trucks a day pass through with everything from perishable food to medicines.

 

A government spokesman said this was not a forecast or prediction of what will happen but rather a "stretching scenario".

 

It is also launching a Smart Freight IT service that will enable drivers and hauliers to complete a border readiness check, and only allow compliant vehicles to enter the port area.

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2020-09-23

 

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[Rookiescot]

And the good news keeps coming.

What about goods coming in the other direction? Delays for them as well?

What a wonderful, well conceived and executed utopia the UK has to look forward to come January. 

Someone really should have pointed this stuff out prior to the vote.

[david555]

PROBLEM SOLVED  already  by Boris other naming for extension .....: "implementation "period !!

 

No extension anymore brexiteers 

???????????????????????? but implementation period  ????????????????????

 

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/09/23/boris-johnson-new-lockdown-rules-update-brexit-news-latest/#comments

 

• Catherine Neilan, Politics Live Editor

23 September 2020 • 1:13pm

 

Politics latest news: Last-minute Brexit deal could be followed by 'one or two year implementation period' 

Edited September 23, 2020 by david555

[Rookiescot]

3 minutes ago, david555 said:

PROBLEM SOLVED  already  by Boris other naming for extension .....: "implementation "period !!

 

No extension anymore brexiteers 

???????????????????????? but implementation period  ????????????????????

 

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/09/23/boris-johnson-new-lockdown-rules-update-brexit-news-latest/#comments

 

• Catherine Neilan, Politics Live Editor

23 September 2020 • 1:13pm

 

Politics latest news: Last-minute Brexit deal could be followed by 'one or two year implementation period' 

Get Brexit done ????

[david555]

3 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

Get Brexit done ????

He did not forgot his " roader go ly in a ditch " 1 liner ....so different naming it ????

[Loiner]

Not going to change anything - we are still getting fully the hell out of it. It’s up to the businesses to get their paperwork in order. 

Any word on the queues for goods entering UK, or is this just another attempt at Project Fear for UK exports? Why does it not mention foreign trucks, the scourge of our motorways?

[In the jungle]

I know I have been pooping in my truck parked on the motorway for days but LOOK AT MY BLUE PASSPORT!

 

Hilarious.

Edited September 23, 2020 by In the jungle
Initial version blocked for language.

[sammieuk1]

Nothing to worry about the M25 has enough room for hundreds of thousands of trucks all part of the better off out than in oven ready deal where we take back control of our tarmac ???? 

[jvs]

1 hour ago, Loiner said:

Not going to change anything - we are still getting fully the hell out of it. It’s up to the businesses to get their paperwork in order. 

Any word on the queues for goods entering UK, or is this just another attempt at Project Fear for UK exports? Why does it not mention foreign trucks, the scourge of our motorways?

Remember me?You just want it all to go your way and to hell with everybody else,is not going to work.

Yes inbound and outbound traffic(not only trucks)touring buses and private cars are all going to sit there and wait.Papers in order or not.

One of the biggest perks of the EU(on my side of the channel) is the ability to freely move inside the EU,

saves absolutely millions of Euros!!!!!

[Rookiescot]

1 hour ago, Loiner said:

Not going to change anything - we are still getting fully the hell out of it. It’s up to the businesses to get their paperwork in order. 

Any word on the queues for goods entering UK, or is this just another attempt at Project Fear for UK exports? Why does it not mention foreign trucks, the scourge of our motorways?

You think foreign trucks also being stuck when we have to import 40% of our food from the EU is a good thing?

Tell me. Can you eat sovereignty? Still this is taking back control of our borders so you Brexiteers must have factored all this in when you voted.

[welovesundaysatspace]

1 hour ago, Loiner said:

Not going to change anything - we are still getting fully the hell out of it. It’s up to the businesses to get their paperwork in order. 

What magic paperwork is that exactly that prevents a business from ending up in a two days delay? 

 

1 hour ago, Loiner said:

Any word on the queues for goods entering UK, or is this just another attempt at Project Fear for UK exports?

Project Fear from Michael Gove? 

 

 

 

[RuamRudy]

46 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

You think foreign trucks also being stuck when we have to import 40% of our food from the EU is a good thing?

Tell me. Can you eat sovereignty? Still this is taking back control of our borders so you Brexiteers must have factored all this in when you voted.

And to prove they now have control of the border, they have decided to annexe Kent - 'Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells' is going to be livid now! 

Edited September 23, 2020 by RuamRudy

[RayC]

2 hours ago, Loiner said:

Not going to change anything - we are still getting fully the hell out of it. It’s up to the businesses to get their paperwork in order. 

Any word on the queues for goods entering UK, or is this just another attempt at Project Fear for UK exports? Why does it not mention foreign trucks, the scourge of our motorways?

It's more anti-Johnson and anti-UK propaganda. You can tell that from the source: The British Government.

[RayC]

Thinking positively, Kent will probably be the biggest truck park on earth: Truly 'world beating'.

 

Jokes to one side: The incompetence of this government is truly staggering.

[CG1 Blue]

To me it sounds like Gove is simply warning companies to prepare, make sure paperwork is in order and make any necessary procedural changes. If companies ignore the advice there will be hold ups. Why anti-Brexiters have to be such drama queens over simple advisory announcements I'll never know. 

[RayC]

6 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said:

To me it sounds like Gove is simply warning companies to prepare, make sure paperwork is in order and make any necessary procedural changes. If companies ignore the advice there will be hold ups. Why anti-Brexiters have to be such drama queens over simple advisory announcements I'll never know. 

How can businesses prepare when they don't know what they need to prepare for? Preparation also costs.

[Loiner]

1 hour ago, jvs said:

Remember me?You just want it all to go your way and to hell with everybody else,is not going to work.

Yes inbound and outbound traffic(not only trucks)touring buses and private cars are all going to sit there and wait.Papers in order or not.

One of the biggest perks of the EU(on my side of the channel) is the ability to freely move inside the EU,

saves absolutely millions of Euros!!!!!

Who were you again? Yes, it's certainly to hell with all you on the other side of the channel. That's not what the report says - it only refers to UK trucks entering the EU having delays. Nothing about UK inbound or buses and cars - you made that up, like your saving millions.

[Loiner]

1 hour ago, Rookiescot said:

You think foreign trucks also being stuck when we have to import 40% of our food from the EU is a good thing?

Tell me. Can you eat sovereignty? Still this is taking back control of our borders so you Brexiteers must have factored all this in when you voted.

Empty foreign trucks presumably, but that's not what the report says is it? Do you think all our imported food comes through Calais and Dover? I can assure you it does not.

[Loiner]

1 hour ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

What magic paperwork is that exactly that prevents a business from ending up in a two days delay? 

 

Project Fear from Michael Gove? 

 

 

 

The right paperwork. 

 

No, Project Fear is from Reuters, that infamous anti-Brexit agency. Michael Gove was giving a warning to all those Remainer trucking businesses to ensure their paperwork is correct. Didn't you read and understand it? 

[CG1 Blue]

9 minutes ago, RayC said:

How can businesses prepare when they don't know what they need to prepare for? Preparation also costs.

I'm sure that will all be clarified once we know for sure if it's deal or no deal. 

Yes, preparation for change costs. That's part and parcel of running a business. 

 

Edited September 23, 2020 by CG1 Blue

[Loiner]

25 minutes ago, RayC said:

It's more anti-Johnson and anti-UK propaganda. You can tell that from the source: The British Government.

No I can tell it's from that Reuters source, trying to spin its' anti-Brexit agenda again. Simple warning from the UK govt but you Remainers and Euros lap it all up.

[RuamRudy]

37 minutes ago, Loiner said:

No I can tell it's from that Reuters source, trying to spin its' anti-Brexit agenda again. Simple warning from the UK govt but you Remainers and Euros lap it all up.

Whereas the Brexiteers are flailing around like Clive Dunn, shouting 'don't panic, don't panic' as the relentless flow of incompetence and Brexit induced stupidity streams by. 

[RayC]

1 hour ago, Loiner said:

The right paperwork. 

 

No, Project Fear is from Reuters, that infamous anti-Brexit agency. Michael Gove was giving a warning to all those Remainer trucking businesses to ensure their paperwork is correct. Didn't you read and understand it? 

So any truckers who voted 'Leave' have got it all sorted?

[RayC]

1 hour ago, CG1 Blue said:

I'm sure that will all be clarified once we know for sure if it's deal or no deal. 

But when? Businesses need to plan for the future. What about businesses who are part of a JIT process or deal with perishables? Their businesses will be severely impacted by delays.

1 hour ago, CG1 Blue said:

Yes, preparation for change costs. That's part and parcel of running a business. 

 

Agreed but businesses shouldn't have to plan for numerous possible outcomes coming into effect in +/-3 months. They should be some definites by now.

[RayC]

1 hour ago, Loiner said:

No I can tell it's from that Reuters source, trying to spin its' anti-Brexit agenda again. Simple warning from the UK govt but you Remainers and Euros lap it all up.

Serious question. By what criteria do you come to the conclusion that this government is doing a good job?

[candide]

1 hour ago, Loiner said:

The right paperwork. 

 

No, Project Fear is from Reuters, that infamous anti-Brexit agency. Michael Gove was giving a warning to all those Remainer trucking businesses to ensure their paperwork is correct. Didn't you read and understand it? 

Right! They should be happy to escape EU's red tape regulation by doing more paperwork! ????

[CG1 Blue]

24 minutes ago, RayC said:

But when? Businesses need to plan for the future. What about businesses who are part of a JIT process or deal with perishables? Their businesses will be severely impacted by delays.

Agreed but businesses shouldn't have to plan for numerous possible outcomes coming into effect in +/-3 months. They should be some definites by now.

I don't think it's possible to have those definites at this stage. If it was possible they would have been provided. It's not in the government's interests to have businesses fail. 

[RayC]

2 hours ago, CG1 Blue said:

I don't think it's possible to have those definites at this stage.

And therein lies the problem. The government is asking businesses to prepare but for what? It's difficult, if not impossible, to plan for all eventuaties.

2 hours ago, CG1 Blue said:

 It's not in the government's interests to have businesses fail. 

You wouldn't have thought so, but that may well be the outcome. Businesses - large and small - in almost all sectors are struggling to deal with the effects of COVID. The lack of clarity re Brexit and the insistence - repeated today by Gove - that the transition period will not be extended just compounds the difficulties that businesses face.

[Chomper Higgot]

8 hours ago, Loiner said:

Not going to change anything - we are still getting fully the hell out of it. It’s up to the businesses to get their paperwork in order. 

Any word on the queues for goods entering UK, or is this just another attempt at Project Fear for UK exports? Why does it not mention foreign trucks, the scourge of our motorways?

‘Project Fear’ you say.

 

So I take it Michael Gove is now the Government minister for ‘Project Fear’.

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

What a month this has turned out to be, having abandoned their claim to be the party of law and order the Tories are now going back on decades of claiming they are the party of business, the party of cutting red tape and paperwork.

 

‘The easiest deal in history’.