webfact Posted October 2, 2020 Posted October 2, 2020 Farang kindergarten teacher suspended after alleged "for two finger neck" assault as Sarasas troubles widen Trouble continued to plague the schools of the Sarasas group as parents demanded more transparency. Sarasas, that has 42 branches, are facing trouble over Thais and a Filipino who allegedly assaulted children at their Ratchapreuk branch. Now parents at other Sarasas schools are questioning their procedures demanding answers including procedures connected to the hiring of foreign staff and CCTV provision in classes. And a case has emerged in which a parent of a kindergarten boy is claiming that a "farang" teacher manhandled their child and bundled him out of the class. Yesterday school administrators at Sarasas Witaed Rom Klao in Lat Krabang faced a group of 150 parents who had four demands outlined by a parent rep. They wanted to have CCTV provision in all classes, answers about staff hiring, how parents should interact with the school over their concerns and answers about budgets. At one point a K3 parent stood up and asked about the latest developments regarding an incident with their male child. The mother - named only as "Mild" - said that a foreign teacher had forced the boy down back into his second row seat using his thumb and forefinger then bundled him out of the classroom to stay outside. She alleged that her boy couldn't breathe and had suffered other symptoms after the incident on February 29th. She said that after she complained about the manhandling of her child the school agreed to transfer the teacher to another class and replace them with a new one. She was not okay with this action. Foreign staff liaison person Kamonyuth Thatcharoen said that he was aware of the case and that the teacher concerned had been suspended. He asked for time to settle it. He said that the teacher concerned would be sacked if it could be proven what he had done. He assured parents that all teachers both Thai and foreign had been called to meetings in the wake of the turmoil at Ratchapreuk and that all staff had been told they will be sacked if there is a repeat of what has been seen there. While the body of the story spoke of a foreigner as having been involved in this case, the Daily News story specifically mentioned "farang" (white caucasian) as the 'ethnicity' of the person involved in their headline, notes Thaivisa. Sarasak employs many hundreds of foreign teachers. At Ratchapreuk alone there are currently 74, the majority Filipino. Source: Daily News -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2020-10-02 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates
Popular Post tonray Posted October 2, 2020 Popular Post Posted October 2, 2020 Wow...he used his thumb and forefinger to gently guide the kid into his seat...what a monster 6 1 2 1
Popular Post colinneil Posted October 2, 2020 Popular Post Posted October 2, 2020 It would appear some parents smell money is to be made, so lets jump on the band wagon. 14 4 4
Popular Post simon43 Posted October 2, 2020 Popular Post Posted October 2, 2020 When I taught in Myanmar schools, there were CCTV cameras in all classrooms, for both the protection of the students and the teacher (eg - if 2 kids hit each other, the CCTV recording would show that it was not the teacher who caused the bruises etc). When teaching younger students, it can be necessary to 'manhandle' them, but only as a means to guide them in the room, not to assault them. 4
Popular Post moe666 Posted October 2, 2020 Popular Post Posted October 2, 2020 41 minutes ago, simon43 said: When I taught in Myanmar schools, there were CCTV cameras in all classrooms, for both the protection of the students and the teacher (eg - if 2 kids hit each other, the CCTV recording would show that it was not the teacher who caused the bruises etc). When teaching younger students, it can be necessary to 'manhandle' them, but only as a means to guide them in the room, not to assault them. Look at the admi. in this how did this go own. The principals need to visit the class rooms and monitor the way teachers are teaching and make it a suprise visit. Surely there where rumors floating around the school about harsh disipline. My wife who was a teacher many years ago was appalled by the treatment the kids where getting. 2 1 1
Popular Post ben2talk Posted October 2, 2020 Popular Post Posted October 2, 2020 I think this is normal for Thai schools, and only in the news because foreigners are involved. My son gets upset when I tell him it's okay to write a certain way because his teachers will hit him if he does that... stupid stuff like writing in English on squared writing paper and not leaving a full square between every letter. Recently we bought him a phone-watch which is locked into time-only mode from 7.30 to 4pm and he now has ONE Thai sports teacher threatening to check up on him and take it away because that one teacher is offended by the possibility that it is not strictly allowed under school rules. The whole Thai education system is what's to blame - no point picking on individuals, because abuse is rife and it's the system that's to blame - and such treatment doesn't improve after school when Thai's go to work. Schools are merely preparing them for real Thai culture in a militaristic and unsympathetic country. 9 1
Popular Post Colabamumbai Posted October 2, 2020 Popular Post Posted October 2, 2020 Lot of whining parents, taught in ten schools here never saw any of this, nor participated in it. 3 1
Popular Post Ventenio Posted October 2, 2020 Popular Post Posted October 2, 2020 6 hours ago, webfact said: are currently 74, the majority Filipino. soon they will know what it is like to be targeted signed every farang sorry not fun times ahead 4
Popular Post Dumbastheycome Posted October 2, 2020 Popular Post Posted October 2, 2020 5 hours ago, tonray said: Wow...he used his thumb and forefinger to gently guide the kid into his seat...what a monster Placed where? In the throat or on the back of the neck? 3
Popular Post Bender Rodriguez Posted October 2, 2020 Popular Post Posted October 2, 2020 6 hours ago, webfact said: Yesterday school administrators at Sarasas Witaed Rom Klao in Lat Krabang faced a group of 150 parents who had four demands outlined by a parent rep. the problem is mainly THE VICE DIRECTOR that acts like she is GOD and shouts and scream at children, mine was victim too !!! changed schools !!! 2 1
Andrew65 Posted October 2, 2020 Posted October 2, 2020 A Filipino (an oriental) isn't really a 'farang'!? 2
Popular Post J Town Posted October 2, 2020 Popular Post Posted October 2, 2020 4 minutes ago, Andrew65 said: A Filipino (an oriental) isn't really a 'farang'!? The term "oriental" has long ago been deemed offensive. From my understanding (Thai girlfriend from Sa Kaeo area), "farang" means anyone not connected to the Asian continent. Someone from India is not a farang, someone from the Philippines or Japan are farangs. 2 3 1 2
Popular Post polpott Posted October 2, 2020 Popular Post Posted October 2, 2020 6 hours ago, tonray said: Wow...he used his thumb and forefinger to gently guide the kid into his seat...what a monster I call it the Vulcan death grip. Used it on all my kids. Place thumb and index finger either side of the neck from behind. Instant paralysis/compliance. 1 1 3
Popular Post polpott Posted October 2, 2020 Popular Post Posted October 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, J Town said: The term "oriental" has long ago been deemed offensive. From my understanding (Thai girlfriend from Sa Kaeo area), "farang" means anyone not connected to the Asian continent. Someone from India is not a farang, someone from the Philippines or Japan are farangs. Farang = white Westerner. Doesn't include Phillipinos or Japanese. BTW. The Phillipines and Japan are in Asia. 5 1
Andrew65 Posted October 2, 2020 Posted October 2, 2020 8 minutes ago, J Town said: The term "oriental" has long ago been deemed offensive. From my understanding (Thai girlfriend from Sa Kaeo area), "farang" means anyone not connected to the Asian continent. Someone from India is not a farang, someone from the Philippines or Japan are farangs. Someone, somewhere, is always going to find something 'offensive', even when it isn't meant to be so. What is the current acceptable word when referring to someone from the Far East? (It's sure to change at some point). Farang is also deemed to be 'offensive' by some caucasians (but not by me). Also, is 'oriental' any more 'offensive' than 'westerner'? Bear in mind that racism is something that it seems only white people can be accused of. 2
Popular Post steven100 Posted October 2, 2020 Popular Post Posted October 2, 2020 some kids need a good clip under the ear to make them behave .... imo 2 1 1 1
Popular Post colinneil Posted October 2, 2020 Popular Post Posted October 2, 2020 4 minutes ago, steven100 said: some kids need a good clip under the ear to make them behave .... imo Fully agree with you Steven, there are also a few members on here who need the same.???? 1 2
Captain Monday Posted October 2, 2020 Posted October 2, 2020 23 minutes ago, Andrew65 said: A Filipino (an oriental) isn't really a 'farang'!? Nobody says oriental its offensive unless talking about a rug or vase. A Filipino is Asian, Japanese don't think they are Asian. Farang is for white westerners. Russians are white but not really westerners. Do Thais call them farang? They call call African Americans "Booraku" never ever farang, same as for Africans. Does that make sense? Racist naming conventions for a racist society. in Thai schools it is worse. Here different only the parents smell money blaming foreigners. 1 1
Andrew65 Posted October 2, 2020 Posted October 2, 2020 Just now, Captain Monday said: Nobody says oriental its offensive unless talking about a rug or vase. A Filipino is Asian, Japanese don't think they are Asian. Farang is for white westerners. Russians are white but not really westerners. Do Thais call them farang? They call call African Americans "Booraku" never ever farang, same as for Africans. Does that make sense? Racist naming conventions for a racist society. in Thai schools it is worse. Here different only the parents smell money blaming foreigners. What I liked about living in Thailand is that you can away from all the identity politics and political correctness that we have in the West. BTW, a black (is it ok to say black?) African name for white people is "Mazungu", it's just a name, I don't care what it means, or whether I or someone else finds it 'offensive'. 1 1
simon43 Posted October 2, 2020 Posted October 2, 2020 25 minutes ago, steven100 said: some kids need a good clip under the ear to make them behave .... imo I remember teaching a class of 25 5-year old kids, with no teaching assistant. I needed them to change places/seats. Great fun, but it was like herding cats....... ???? 2
polpott Posted October 2, 2020 Posted October 2, 2020 15 minutes ago, Captain Monday said: Farang is for white westerners. Russians are white but not really westerners. Do Thais call them farang? Yes.
holy cow cm Posted October 2, 2020 Posted October 2, 2020 7 hours ago, webfact said: She said that after she complained about the manhandling of her child the school agreed to transfer the teacher to another class and replace them with a new one. She was not okay with this action. Well could it be she possibly raised a spoiled little mouthy unruly brat? In many cases for the K 1-2-3, they are either normal little kids and act as kids should act or spoiled little *******. I can say my kids never had any problems in school. but we raised them the right way. 1 1
holy cow cm Posted October 2, 2020 Posted October 2, 2020 52 minutes ago, Andrew65 said: A Filipino (an oriental) isn't really a 'farang'!? Coming form the Bay Area in the US, I have never considered Philippines oriental.
Cod Face Posted October 2, 2020 Posted October 2, 2020 7 hours ago, colinneil said: It would appear some parents smell money is to be made, so lets jump on the band wagon. Jumping on the bandwagon of unfounded speculation, eh, colinneil? The parents involved have been quoted in the Bangkok Post as saying, specifically, that they do not want money from the school. They want the situation regarding the safety of their children rectified, that's all. Maybe you've seen a quote somewhere indicating that they do want money, where would that be? 1 1
phantomfiddler Posted October 2, 2020 Posted October 2, 2020 I sense another pathetic attempt to smear the westerner, who somehow has managed to become the spreaders of Covid instead of the real culprits, the Chinese ! A very subtle piece of media spin, albeit disgusting ! I would be very surprised if a white Caucasian teacher were to behave in this fashion, refuse to believe it unless actual video shown. Abuse of children is a totally Asian domain ! 1
Cod Face Posted October 2, 2020 Posted October 2, 2020 5 hours ago, ben2talk said: Recently we bought him a phone-watch which is locked into time-only mode from 7.30 to 4pm and he now has ONE Thai sports teacher threatening to check up on him and take it away because that one teacher is offended by the possibility that it is not strictly allowed under school rules. Why did you put him in that position by giving him the phone-watch for school if the rules don't allow them? Perhaps a phone in a temporary locked mode can also be unlocked?
Cod Face Posted October 2, 2020 Posted October 2, 2020 52 minutes ago, steven100 said: some kids need a good clip under the ear to make them behave .... imo Kindergarten children? 1
Cod Face Posted October 2, 2020 Posted October 2, 2020 45 minutes ago, colinneil said: Fully agree with you Steven, there are also a few members on here who need the same.???? You're not kidding. 2
rkidlad Posted October 2, 2020 Posted October 2, 2020 14 minutes ago, Cod Face said: Jumping on the bandwagon of unfounded speculation, eh, colinneil? The parents involved have been quoted in the Bangkok Post as saying, specifically, that they do not want money from the school. They want the situation regarding the safety of their children rectified, that's all. Maybe you've seen a quote somewhere indicating that they do want money, where would that be? Welcome, Cod Face. I like your style of writing. Seems eerily similar to a style I've seen before. 1
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