ThailandRyan Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 (edited) 38 minutes ago, gunderhill said: Yes ALL. You really believe that all riders are a menace. Wow, I guess I must also be a menace when I ride my bike with all my safety gear on. 30+ years of riding large bikes and Police motorbikes in the US, must just make me worse then those locals riding in t-shirts, shorts, flip-flops, no helmet, and carrying the wife and two kids on the 110 or 125. Good on you to take a stand and paint all riders with the same broad brush. Edited October 7, 2020 by ThailandRyan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt1591 Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 33 minutes ago, gunderhill said: Yet they can afford to buy the bike. Unfortunately, the bike is a necessity. If they could buy a cheaper bike they would. Some of the better helmets can cost a good percentage of the cost of the bike. At 49, the poor guy was probably a family man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt1591 Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said: You really believe that all riders are a menace. Wow, I guess I must also be a menace when I ride my bike with all my safety gear on. 30+ years of riding large bikes and Police motorbikes in the US, must just make me worse then those locals riding in t-shirts, shorts, flip-flops, no helmet, and carrying the wife and two kids on the 110 or 125. Good on you to take a stand and paint all riders with the same broad brush. "Police motorbikes" - HD, BMW, or Moto Guzzi ? Although I don't see Thai riders a threat to society, after years riding in the States, starting in the 60s, I must say I haven't seen so many American riders ride with the total abandoned for saftey that I see here. One again: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricklev Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 (edited) I rode my motorcycle down Rajadamri Road today to the MRT station at 8:30 in the morning and caught a red light at Sarasin at Lumpini Park. So 50 motorcycles cued up at front, a few buses and 100 cars taking off from the red light heading into a bottleneck where 2 of the 3 lanes were cars waiting to turn into Lumpini Park. What a mindset the motorcycle and bus drivers have. They have to go fast and they have to go first. Just insanity. A bus honked at me while driving so close I could have reached back and touched its front bumper. There was no where I could go and that was obvious. I was quite judgmental and then, honestly, I reminded myself of the 200,000 people dead of Covid in my country and the reason why and that stopped me in my tracks. I had to ask myself, is my country really that much better? Edited October 7, 2020 by ricklev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tracker1 Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 he was a Grab delivery man I as a guess he was in a hurry like 99% of the idiot delivery riders here in Chiang Rai I am surprised there isn't one taken out every day of the week total idiots ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matzzon Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 3 hours ago, ThailandRyan said: Poor man RIP, I wonder if he was wearing the helmet at the time he was unfortunately run over since his helmet was found next to the bike 5 meters away from his body. Unfortunately they deliver and take off the helmet, and then thinks it´s such a short way to the next stop that they do not put them on. Tragic and sad, but nothing much to have time to do if the bus driver speaks the truth. 3 hours ago, sammieuk1 said: No one can ever stop in time here ????Rip How easy do you think it is to stop a bus full with people driving in 60 km/h in 2 seconds? Ever driven a big truck or a bus? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HashBrownHarry Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 God, all the war stories are coming out now........"i've seen this / i've been in that" There's no doubt it makes more sense to wear a helmet, however in the case the chap was run over by a B U S, so i'm quite confident in saying a helmet in this particular accident that was mentioned the helmet would have made little or no difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammieuk1 Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 6 hours ago, Matzzon said: Unfortunately they deliver and take off the helmet, and then thinks it´s such a short way to the next stop that they do not put them on. Tragic and sad, but nothing much to have time to do if the bus driver speaks the truth. How easy do you think it is to stop a bus full with people driving in 60 km/h in 2 seconds? Ever driven a big truck or a bus? Why drive a bus full of people at 60kph on an inner city road in rush hour could be a clue your lacking ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matzzon Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 4 hours ago, sammieuk1 said: Why drive a bus full of people at 60kph on an inner city road in rush hour could be a clue your lacking ???? Probably because that is the speed the traffic is usually moving in. Have you tried to drive a big bus in floating traffic at rush hour? Did you try to drive slower than the other traffic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunderhill Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 (edited) 14 hours ago, teacherclaire said: You must be kidding! We're now talking about people who have to trust each other when doing speeds of over 250 km/h. Don't you think that these guys are worse riders when they ride through Bangkok city? Were you ever riding on a track before? It would be best if you rode in a way, thinking that another rider might come off, and your reaction will be very sharp by doing so. How many cars, buses, dogs and, people are there wandering all over their race tracks? how many other bikes blindly pulling out in front of them? they may well trust EACH OTHER but do they know and trust EVERYONE else on the roads? Reaction times are irrelevant when someone does something totally unexpected. You don't get it at all do you, ps been riding bikes since I was 18 from 250cc to 1100 cc. Edited October 7, 2020 by gunderhill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunderhill Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 13 hours ago, Curt1591 said: Unfortunately, the bike is a necessity. If they could buy a cheaper bike they would. Some of the better helmets can cost a good percentage of the cost of the bike. At 49, the poor guy was probably a family man. But their life isn't a necessity right and when the parents are dead whose going to bring up little Somchai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunderhill Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 13 hours ago, ThailandRyan said: You really believe that all riders are a menace. Wow, I guess I must also be a menace when I ride my bike with all my safety gear on. 30+ years of riding large bikes and Police motorbikes in the US, must just make me worse then those locals riding in t-shirts, shorts, flip-flops, no helmet, and carrying the wife and two kids on the 110 or 125. Good on you to take a stand and paint all riders with the same broad brush. Your'e very excitable aren't you, of course id don't really believe it it an "expression" 30 years, you have a way to go yet , 41 years so far for me. Currently Honda Cbr650f.............ps , calm down a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisY1 Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 A very common type of incident with motorcycles riders in BKK.....lane filtering and instant lane changing at speeds....they come to grief so often! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt1591 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 1 hour ago, gunderhill said: But their life isn't a necessity right and when the parents are dead whose going to bring up little Somchai 1 hour ago, gunderhill said: Your'e very excitable aren't you, of course id don't really believe it it an "expression" 30 years, you have a way to go yet , 41 years so far for me. Currently Honda Cbr650f.............ps , calm down a bit. Unfortunately, many Thais are stuck in a financial trap. Many survive hand-to-mouth, day-to-day. Long ago, wife put it into perspective for me: "They have no choice." If they had the ฿300,000± for that CBR, many would probably buy a car or truck and not need a personal protection gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKDfella Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Sad that the Grab m/c should die. My condolences to his family. However, as I mentioned on another thread, the Panda and Grab m/c take a lot of risks as they weave in and out of the traffic at speed...at least in my area. Does anyone here know if they are paid on a delivery basis rather than a set wage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nahkit Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 17 hours ago, teacherclaire said: The vehicle that ran him over was airconditioned bus No 26, which runs between Bang Khen and Victory Monument. RIP, poor lad! WTH wants to know if it was an airconditioned bus? Perhaps its because the a/c no. 26 is a different bus to the non-ac no. 26? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 18 hours ago, sammieuk1 said: No one can ever stop in time here ????Rip I did last night, but only just. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Almer Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 18 hours ago, renz said: this no freak accident ..... it is dangerous driving by delivery drivers on bike which i see everyday here in bkk Agreed but we all complain if the food is cold when it arrives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Theory Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Most of food delivery motorcycles are on suicide mission everyday. The way they ride their motorcycles is beyond my mind. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammieuk1 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 8 hours ago, Matzzon said: Probably because that is the speed the traffic is usually moving in. Have you tried to drive a big bus in floating traffic at rush hour? Did you try to drive slower than the other traffic? It's called diving to conditions not following other lemmings and yes driven everything from a CBR900RR-HGV and everything in between???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henryford Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Very sad but these Grab delivery guys ride like maniacs. I am surprised many more aren't killed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 21 hours ago, gunderhill said: Knowing how to ride on a track and controlling a bike safely in traffic and being aware of other road users are two totally different things. I have ridden through all the main parts of Bangkok, and in my experience, I have felt safer than in any other Thai city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PETERTHEEATER Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 22 hours ago, gunderhill said: they need reigning in. Only those with excessive horsepower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natway09 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Please, freak accident ? He was speeding & still determined to pass the taxi come hell or high water , lost control & was run over by a bus after falling on the road. Sorry, but par for the course, This video should be shown to all motorbike licence seekers to remind them about patience RIP mate 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essox essox Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 On 10/7/2020 at 3:08 PM, sammieuk1 said: No one can ever stop in time here ????Rip why did the driver of said bus NOT try to use the HAND BRAKE .....I assume there is one on all buses !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essox essox Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 9 hours ago, Almer said: Agreed but we all complain if the food is cold when it arrives can warm food up in the microwave.....having said this I would NEVER order food from an outside source.....I nearly always eat in my condo..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foexie Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 On 10/7/2020 at 10:05 AM, ThailandRyan said: Poor man RIP, I wonder if he was wearing the helmet at the time he was unfortunately run over since his helmet was found next to the bike 5 meters away from his body. Yes the helmet would have protected him for the rear wheel of the bus running him over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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