Teacher knifed to death in France after showing class cartoons of Prophet Mohammad

[bert bloggs]

17 minutes ago, Sujo said:

As far as i know schools in all countries teach other languages. I know in malaysia they do bahasa, mandarin and english. 

 

My gf just finished her phd in malaysia, they did not allow her to complete it in her own bahasa language but only done in english.

 

Most do integrate and live by the rules.

What ,just like the ones going to that school and their parents? I lived in a town with loads of Muslims in the UK ,they didnt integrate ,,especially after the Mosque came .

[katana]

1 hour ago, NanLaew said:

Wow! Thanks for that!

 

OK at my end. Maybe your machine has been compromised by surfing too many dodgy porn sites?

 

1 hour ago, simple1 said:

Did some brief research - as expected another weirdo site. Founder talks about Obama being a Muslim blah, blah. Another good example where some members get their insights.

Almost as weird as some of your posts and links!

[NanLaew]

58 minutes ago, bodga said:

1 hour ago, NanLaew said:

OMG! Next thing you know, they'll be teaching Cymraeg in schools in Wales.

 

Oh, wait...

didnt  realise Arabic was  native language  like the Welsh  language

Spoken like a man who's never spent much time in Bradford either.

[NanLaew]

1 hour ago, bodga said:

didnt  realise Arabic was  native language  like the Welsh  language

 

1 hour ago, bert bloggs said:

yes to Welsh people ,not to a bunch of people who do not integrate and cannot live by the rules of the country they live in ,best they leave and go to a Muslim country ,oh i forgot ,they dont want them and will not let them in .

Pretty hard to deport native-born British just because don't act, look or sound white enough.

 

There was me pushing the @Orton Rd button and somehow got @bodga and @bert bloggs buttons too.

 

Maybe I need to cut my fingernails.

 

 

[NanLaew]

19 minutes ago, katana said:

OK at my end. Maybe your machine has been compromised by surfing too many dodgy porn sites?

 

Almost as weird as some of your posts and links!

 

[katana]

Have you or any other posters dealt with the verses quoted in the link?

[teacherclaire]

15 hours ago, bendejo said:

We have to be responsible for our actions.  Didn't the teacher realize the possibilities of reactions to doing this?  And of course we all know how infamous the offended group is for their extreme reactions to such things.

Not in defense of the killer by any means, but on the other hand if a non-Christian teacher showed his class satirical cartoons of, say, Joan d'Arc or the Virgin Mary (in France!), anyone with any sense would see an uproar in the making.  Try showing Thais satire involving those who cannot be mentioned and see what kind of reception you get (your health insurance includes hospitalization, right?). 

What was this guy thinking?

 

 

 I was born as a Roman Catholic, but I became an atheist with a Buddha around my neck containing my parents' rings' melted gold.

 

  We watch South park when Jesus fights with Santa Claus, and we know that it's satire; who'd take that for profound?

 

 Only people who are somehow sick, led by a religion that brainwashes all of them to believe that Non-believers are pigs because they eat pork.

 

 I'm confident that the teacher was thinking and using cartoon characters in class is usually pretty good. 

 

But of course not when you've got some hardcore Jihadists in class.

 

Of course is it not possible to get real photos from this Prophet, who never taught his believers to kill. 

 

 Please don't blame the teacher now. He did his job, and I'm sure, pretty well.

 

Watching this clip is plain funny, don't you agree?

 

 

Would that really hurt the feelings of a Christian?

 

My apologies when it hurts your feelings. 

 

 

 

  

 

[simple1]

28 minutes ago, teacherclaire said:

 I was born as a Roman Catholic, but I became an atheist with a Buddha around my neck containing my parents' rings' melted gold.

 

  We watch South park when Jesus fights with Santa Claus, and we know that it's satire; who'd take that for profound?

 

 Only people who are somehow sick, led by a religion that brainwashes all of them to believe that Non-believers are pigs because they eat pork.

 

 I'm confident that the teacher was thinking and using cartoon characters in class is usually pretty good. 

 

But of course not when you've got some hardcore Jihadists in class.

 

Of course is it not possible to get real photos from this Prophet, who never taught his believers to kill. 

 

 Please don't blame the teacher now. He did his job, and I'm sure, pretty well.

 

 

Would that really hurt the feelings of a Christian?

 

My apologies when it hurts your feelings.  

 

 

Watching this clip is plain funny, don't you agree?

 

I don't follow any Abrahamic religion, but I didn't find the sketch even slightly humorous,

 

Would that really hurt the feelings of a Christian?

 

I guess a practising Christian would find the sketch offensive i.e. the vulgarity

[Oxx]

5 minutes ago, simple1 said:

Would that really hurt the feelings of a Christian?

 

I guess a practising Christian would find the sketch offensive i.e. the vulgarity

 

But would they be moved to decapitate someone, or blow someone to smithereens, in the name of their "god" as a response?

[balo]

Actually the teacher was beheaded and a picture posted on Twitter spread elsewhere. Do not try to look for the picture, it is ugly. 

A reminder to us all that the democracy are threatened by radical muslims. 

[simple1]

10 minutes ago, Oxx said:

 

But would they be moved to decapitate someone, or blow someone to smithereens, in the name of their "god" as a response?

Don't believe so, but Christian extremist motivated terrorism does exist, including murder though not to the extent of Islamist killing; leave it at that, otherwise will go way off topic.

[Opl]

26 minutes ago, balo said:

Actually the teacher was beheaded and a picture posted on Twitter spread elsewhere. Do not try to look for the picture, it is ugly. 

A reminder to us all that the democracy are threatened by radical muslims. 

education? democracy? giving jam to pigs (french proverb) 

Edited October 18, 2020 by Opl

[talahtnut]

1 minute ago, balo said:

Actually the teacher was beheaded and a picture posted on Twitter spread elsewhere. Do not try to look for the picture, it is ugly. 

A reminder to us all that the democracy are threatened by radical muslims. 

Very true, but western powers have bombed and plundered hell out of Muslim countries.

[bert bloggs]

11 minutes ago, talahtnut said:

Very true, but western powers have bombed and plundered hell out of Muslim countries.

and Christian ones, so whats your point?

[kingdong]

24 minutes ago, talahtnut said:

Very true, but western powers have bombed and plundered hell out of Muslim countries.

so it was payback?

[Orton Rd]

29 minutes ago, simple1 said:

Don't believe so, but Christian extremist motivated terrorism does exist, including murder though not to the extent of Islamist killing; leave it at that, otherwise will go way off topic.

Thousands of Islamic terrorist attacks even since 9/11 and on a daily basis and you have to try and deflect from this extreme danger to the world by claiming Christian terrorism exists. BTW what is your view on apostasy, people who become Muslim for convenience and then leave, should they be executed under sharia law?

[Mike k]

1 hour ago, teacherclaire said:

them to believe that Non-believers are pigs because they eat pork.

So what about jews they don't eat pork ????

[Orton Rd]

4 minutes ago, Mike k said:

So what about jews they don't eat pork ????

Non piggy eating was a ploy by Mohammad to attract Jews to his newly invented religion, He adopted other practices as well, it failed miserably and he never forgave them. One story of his death is that he was poisoned by the wife of a Jew he had killed and he died a few years later from the result.

Edited October 18, 2020 by Orton Rd

[elliss]

On 10/17/2020 at 11:40 AM, alien365 said:

 

 

I'm just trying to highlight that to a moderate Muslim, this terrorist is not a true Muslim.

 

         Why don't the moderate Muslims, publicly condone, these murder's .

          Live in fear in the name of religion . Nothing new ..   

          

 

 

     

[Opl]

10 minutes ago, elliss said:

 

         Why don't the moderate Muslims, publicly condone, these murder's .

          Live in fear in the name of religion . Nothing new ..   

          

 

 

     

because they condemn the cartoons - excuse to the killing 

free speech is an alien concept

religion as a private matter is an alien concept

Edited October 18, 2020 by Opl

[Bluespunk]

16 minutes ago, Opl said:

because they condemn the cartoons - excuse to the killing 

free speech is an alien concept

religion as a private matter is an alien concept

From linked story 

 

‘Muslim leaders in France also condemned the attack. "A civilisation does not kill an innocent person, barbarism does," Tareq Oubrou, imam of a mosque in Bordeaux, told France Inter.‘

France teacher attack: Suspect 'asked pupils to point Samuel Paty out' https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-54581827

 

[Orton Rd]

Muslim journalist in the UK writing for the New Statesman thinks it's outrageous the Jihadist was shot by the Police for what he calls a 'knife crime' he does not mention the beheading or condemn it but thinks the Police shooting was not justified, unbelievable

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8851689/Anger-writer-condemns-brutal-police-murder-Islamist-terrorist-beheaded-French-teacher.html

[Orton Rd]

On 10/17/2020 at 11:40 AM, alien365 said:

I wouldn't have a clue. I can only add that I've found the vast majority of Muslims to be very kind and genuine people, in the UK and Thailand. I don't believe my closer friends would be using a technique on me, but I understand a random person in the street may.

 

I'm just trying to highlight that to a moderate Muslim, this terrorist is not a true Muslim.

Nobody has the right to decide who is and who is not a Muslim, if he accepts Allah and that Mohammad was the true and last prophet he IS a Muslim. Mohammad famously declares in the Hadith of Bukhari, which the vast majority of Muslims recognize, 'I have been made victorious with terror' There may be moderate Muslims who ignore the calls to violence, there is no Moderate Islam.

Edited October 18, 2020 by Orton Rd

[teacherclaire]

1 hour ago, talahtnut said:

Very true, but western powers have bombed and plundered hell out of Muslim countries.

 And plenty of accidents in the form of "friendly fire," killing thousands of innocent kids, their soldiers, and people who've got nothing to do with the war.

 

  How can a bomb be friendly to anybody? 

 

If the American Army would have killed my whole- innocent- family in a friendly or an unfriendly fire, I might rethink all and hate them as much as these people do now. 

 

 

 

 

Edited October 18, 2020 by teacherclaire

[teacherclaire]

27 minutes ago, Orton Rd said:

Muslim journalist in the UK writing for the New Statesman thinks it's outrageous the Jihadist was shot by the Police for what he calls a 'knife crime' he does not mention the beheading or condemn it but thinks the Police shooting was not justified, unbelievable

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8851689/Anger-writer-condemns-brutal-police-murder-Islamist-terrorist-beheaded-French-teacher.html

That's insane and the writer should be writing about donkeys in the deserts. 

[elliss]

2 hours ago, Orton Rd said:

Nobody has the right to decide who is and who is not a Muslim, if he accepts Allah and that Mohammad was the true and last prophet he IS a Muslim. Mohammad famously declares in the Hadith of Bukhari, which the vast majority of Muslims recognize, 'I have been made victorious with terror' There may be moderate Muslims who ignore the calls to violence, there is no Moderate Islam.

 

     That said . 

      Those who are not of the Muslim faith , are enemies of Muslim's .

      Destroy , your enemy .  One faith ..

   PS , the Mayor of London , his silence is deafening ..

 

 

Edited October 18, 2020 by elliss
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[7by7]

Yet again, as whenever one of these atrocities occur, the same people cannot, nay refuse, to distinguish between Islamist terrorism and Islam, between Muslim terrorists and ordinary Muslims.

 

Muslims in France condemn teacher’s killing near Paris

 

Saudi Arabia leads Arab and Muslim world in condemning terrorist murder of French teacher

 

Egypt’s Mufti Condemns Killing of French Teacher For Prophet Muhammed Caricatures

 

The question is; why aren't western media reporting this?

[NanLaew]

4 hours ago, Oxx said:

4 hours ago, simple1 said:

Would that really hurt the feelings of a Christian?

 

I guess a practising Christian would find the sketch offensive i.e. the vulgarity

 

But would they be moved to decapitate someone, or blow someone to smithereens, in the name of their "god" as a response?

Like the VAST MAJORITY of Muslims no, they probably wouldn't.

[NanLaew]

3 hours ago, Orton Rd said:

Nobody has the right to decide who is and who is not a Muslim, if he accepts Allah and that Mohammad was the true and last prophet he IS a Muslim. Mohammad famously declares in the Hadith of Bukhari, which the vast majority of Muslims recognize, 'I have been made victorious with terror' There may be moderate Muslims who ignore the calls to violence, there is no Moderate Islam.

Muslims are angry at non-Muslims or former Muslims who point to this statement by Muhammad to indicate that there is a problem with Islam.

 

http://www.exmuslim.org/i-have-been-made-victorious-by-terror.html

[teacherclaire]

2 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

Muslims are angry at non-Muslims or former Muslims who point to this statement by Muhammad to indicate that there is a problem with Islam.

 

http://www.exmuslim.org/i-have-been-made-victorious-by-terror.html

The problem with Islam is that Christians and Muslims can't live together without confrontations. 

 

 The best example might be Germany. Not many want to learn the language; it's more about the money.

 

  I had a whiskey-drinking Muslim next to me when we were 11,000 feet up in the air.

  I was politely asking if his faith wouldn't forbid to drink.

 

 His answer was breathtaking. 

 

" Allah can't see me drinking when I'm so high up in the sky." That's correct, innit?